Cistus Tea is essential for biofilm breakup, according to Dr. Klinghardt of Washington State!!

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LoveGaia87
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   Posted 10/25/2012 7:18 AM (GMT -6)   
http://www.fransussman.com/cistus-tea-or-how-to-become-repulsive-to-ticks/

http://betterhealthguy.com/joomla/blog/242-a-deep-look-beyond-lyme


"Cistus is more potent than any other agent known for biofilms. Crosses the blood-brain barrier and is 100% absorbed in the gut. It is antiviral. Can rebrew the tea 4 times. Whitens the teeth (also a biofilm which causes yellow teeth), body fluid smells and odors reduce." -- Dr. Klinghardt

You can purchase Cistus Tea in bulk at this website, based out of Washington state. This has been the only place I know of to sell the tea, at least that I've seen in my research:
http://www.retailbiopure.com/Tea-Products/Cistus-Incanus-Tea-250g.html

On top of this, it actually keeps ticks away from you! They don't like it, they won't attach to you, they will run away.

I just wanted to tell the whole community, because I've been taking it for less than a week and my psycho-neurological problems have almost completely gone away, along with continuing my gluten-free, all organic and whole alkaline fruits and veggies, no grains, no beans -- they are too acidic. Mostly fish as my main source of protein and my only fluids are water and teas, or mixtures like chlorella and whole fruits and veggies. My body is alkaline -- in an alkaline state, your body will not hold on to disease. Please check out the following link to do everything in your power to research and begin purchasing and eating only alkaline foods:
http://rense.com/1.mpicons/acidalka.htm

For the natural herb Lyme protocol, including detoxifiying your body with herbs, check out this article on W. Lee Cowden, M.D. -- this protocol helped me keep Lyme at bay for many months. I was bit May, 2011 and tested positive on both the Elisa and WB tests.
http://www.lyme-disease-research-database.com/lee_cowden_interview.html


Lastly, I am on antibiotics this month -- Tinidazole - 500mg, 3 times a day for 14 days and then stop for 14 days; Clarithromycin Tablets, 500mg, 2 times per day; Cefuroxime, 500mg, 2x per day. Antibiotics can and more than likely will cause leaky gut syndrome if used in the long-term. If you are on antibiotics, you *must* be also taking, on a daily basis, either live active probiotics, the more active strains, the better - or eating fermented foods, beverages, etc. I find that a combination of all methods has kept my stomach from being torn apart. Personally, I eat Saurekraut and Kombucha every day, and I avoid yoghurt or any dairy products at all. Dairy has a relatively high acidity as well and can not be taken with antibiotics.

The antibiotics have cleared up most of my problems this time around, but ONLY because I've broken the biofilm down with Cistus Tea, gotten plenty of sleep every night, kept with my diet, and stuck to Chlorella, Cat's Claw Bark powder, Japanese Knotweed, and all other supplements I take, specifically responding to blood test of my organ functioning levels, vitamin levels, Thyroid levels, etc.

Please, I encourage you to get blood work to monitor how your body is doing with the Lyme. You may not realize that, like myself, for instance, you have a Vitamin D deficiency that is effecting the functioning of your entire body. Also, Thyroid inadequacies are common among people with tick-borne illnesses. If your body is unable to produce the correct amount of Thyroid hormones, you will feel sick regardless of treatment. My doctor found that I have hypothyroidism -- an under-active Thyroid, and she prescribed Armour, a natural Thyroid-hormone supplement. It takes 3 months for it to actually fully regulate the system, so I have to take it every morning with a full glass of water, away from all foods and medications. I've noticed a big difference, and the swelling in my thyroid area has gone away.

My doctor is Dr. H. Who practices in Lexington, VA. She is both an MD and holistically certified, as well as LLMD, and likes to use the holistic approach first, above all others. If you are looking to hook up with a Doctor in your area, please visit this website, http://mylymediseasetreatment.com/lyme-disease-general/how-to-find-a-lyme-literate-doctor-llmd-in-your-area/ for an LLMD, or the alternatives that I've found to be very helpful are holistic doctors, acupuncturists, and other alternative doctors with different approaches.

Please, feel free to contact me if you have any questions! I hope this post truly helps a lot of people who read it. I have been able to function normally, for the most part, utilizing the methods I've talked about here. I'm studying at a University, receiving good grades, and will soon be working for the YMCA in early childcare.

My prayers are for all of us. Namaste.

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 10/25/2012 8:36:19 AM (GMT-6)


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   Posted 10/25/2012 8:46 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lovegaia -
Welcome to this site! Unfortunately you have posted a lot of info that we already have on this site, including the sites to go to in order to find a LLMD.

Interesting name. I take one herb from that company. Do you receive any benefits of any kind from this company? Or any of the other products or sites that you posted? You really do need to answer these questions for me, please. I'm very protective of this forum and it's members when it comes to those who wish to leave spam here.

I had to do a couple of things in your post. I removed the bold print, as that much bold print makes it hard on those with bad Neuro symptoms to read through the whole thing.

I also removed the name of your doctor. We don't allow the names of personal doctors to be posted here for two reasons - 1- the liability and 2 is because we are wanting to protect the few doc's in this country that are brave enough to step out of the normal mind set and give us the treatment that actually has the potential to help us heal. If you would like to share that info with others, please enable your email (in your profile) and then others can email you for that info if they choose.

So if you would please either email me (click on the little blue envelope under my name) or let me know where you stand by posting here, I would greatly appreciate it! That way we can get this cleared up and we can get to know you!!

Thanks! :-)
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

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LoveGaia87
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   Posted 10/25/2012 9:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Traveler,

Thank you for welcoming me to the site! I thought that many people may have seen the links and info already, but I wanted to give a testimony based on what I was experiencing. Cistus Tea was especially important out of all the information I gave. It seems like many people with tick-borne illnesses that I speak with are not informed about how critical it is. Biofilms are a major problem with bacterial infections. If we can't break up the biofilms, our medicines and herbs will not be able to get the bacteria. If anyone can find a source for the tea anywhere else, I would love to hear about it, because I haven't been able to find another source.

I absolutely DO NOT benefit monetarily, nor am I affiliated with any of these companies or websites. They are just some really great ones and pertinent to my findings, and I'm on those protocols, or I've been on them. I just want to help. I feel like I repeat myself a lot because a lot of people with Lyme around me, including myself, have a hard time understanding long posts and certain styles of writing, etc. I know many of these subjects are lengthy and should be made into separate categories, to make them easier to read and understand. Thank you for pointing that out to me, thank you for moderating a website with such great resources and critical information. Next time, I will adhere to the rules, now that I better understand them (I'm sorry!!).

I know that it's hard for many people who are chronically ill (such as myself) to feel motivated to even find the information or search the web for the websites, so my intention was to make that process easier and explain my own protocol, because it is working very well for me.

Thanks for taking the time to get to know me, I hope to get to know a lot of people here and become actively involved in the process of discovering ways to alleviate our symptoms and obliterate these horrifying bacterias.

From my heart, I give myself as a testimony :) Thank you! Please let me know how you feel about my reply!!

Also, I didn't even realize that the print had gone bold!! If I had known I had done that, I would have changed it myself because clearly, that text can be hard to read. Thank you for clearing it up.

peggster
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   Posted 10/25/2012 12:12 PM (GMT -6)   
My Enviro Doc in Atlanta had me take Cistus tea to make me less desireable to ticks....she learned it from Dr. K. She had a very hard time acquiring it....finally got it out of the country. I watched a video of a doctor/naturopath (can't remember) who also gave it to her dogs & said it works! But, as you said, hard to get. I haven't looked at the website you get it from. Thanks for sharing.

LoveGaia87
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   Posted 10/25/2012 1:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks, peggster, for sharing your knowledge on this subject and taking time out of your day. Dr. K seems to really know a lot when it comes to Lyme and chronic illness, from what I've read. The website I listed is from a company in Washington state, so I guess that's the best we can do from within this country. I really couldn't find it anywhere else, I'm kind of shocked. I'm hoping that I can raise awareness of it more, because I've noticed an enormous difference in my mental clarity and relief, along with relief from symptoms in the rest of my body.

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   Posted 10/26/2012 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm sorry, LoveGaia that I was that way with you - we get sooo many spammers though!! And I'm a little tough on them, sorry you got a taste of it! The other thing that made me wonder was the screen name you choose! LOL!! I have bought herbs from a company called Gaia before!

Of course we welcome you!! It's the members here that make this such wonderful site, so we welcome you and encourage you to share all that you have learned as well!

What you said about it being hard for the chronically ill to do their own research is true, but for me when I was still new here, I couldn't do my own research due to the brain fog. I had to rely on the members to be honest, and so I'm now pretty protective.

Thank you for not being upset with my first post, although I would have completely understood if you had been. I do look forward to getting to know you!! smilewinkgrin
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

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LoveGaia87
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   Posted 10/29/2012 7:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you, Traveler, for welcoming me so warmly :) It's okay, I'm not upset at all! I completely understand, I hate spammers too. I'm glad you're tough on them so that we don't have to deal with that nonsense!! I'm excited to get to know you and everyone else here too, in this unfortunate but helpful and loving community we are part of here. :) :) :)

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   Posted 10/29/2012 11:54 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for understanding!! I hate having to be that way, but like you said, it helps to provide a safer area for us all to talk and share. Thanks for sticking with us!!
Treating with Acupuncture, Traditional & Modern Chinese Medicine & Western Herbs. Before tx, I had all but 20 of the symptoms on the "Master Symptom List" for Lyme disease.

"Absence of proof is not proof of absence" - Dr. Edwin Masters, great LLMD & researcher -RIP

Questions about what I've posted or just have questions? Please email me!!! Click on the blue envelope under my screen name

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   Posted 11/29/2012 5:41 PM (GMT -6)   
 
Happy to share another source for Cistus tea: the other day I ordered several 200 gram bags of Cistus tea directly from 'Krauterhaus Sanct Bernhard' in Germany using their online shop. All information on the store's website is in English. Many people already have large medical expenses due to treatment for Lyme or general biofilm-related health issues. This is an extremely cost effective way to buy 200 gram bags of loose tea.

Post Edited (Ontario Canada) : 12/11/2012 3:37:41 PM (GMT-7)


LottaAnsy76
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   Posted 11/29/2012 11:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow Ontario ! That IS alot cheaper than the other source ! $7.95 .. opposed to like $50ish on the other site ! I wonder if the quality is the same ? Wish there was a way of checking into that

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   Posted 11/30/2012 6:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Doesn't the 'cistus incanus' plant grow wild in Greece? There is an online source in Greece for the tea which is also affordable.
 
But as you legitimately ask: how can someone confirm the therapeutic quality of cistus from these various vendors in Greece/ Germany/ London, England/ the U.S.?  Short of calling Dr. Klinghardt's office to get the name of his source, or  contacting researchers who have studied the herb I can't think of another way to feel confident that what I'm getting is 100% therapeutic. 
 
I chose the German healthfood store chain because Germany has centuries of tradition in the use of herbs for natural healing. 
 
And the cost is reasonable for 200 grams (7 ounces) of this herb.

TICKLEDPINK
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   Posted 11/30/2012 7:06 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi there,

I live in Germany and I can confirm that Krauterhaus Sankt Bernhard is a very reputable and well known source here.

Tickled

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   Posted 12/28/2012 7:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Hullo I have just receiived my first supply of cistury tera having waited so long because i am in england so can you help how much do I get my daughter to to take it is for biofilm destuction for somenone whose diagnosie hads been lyme in the brain the cs fluids were positive
how much should she take

thank you

Linda

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   Posted 12/29/2012 9:35 AM (GMT -6)   
I just ordered some from Donkey Island. Anyone familiar with this brand? They are based out of greece and say everything is grown/harvested there. I can't really compare it to anything b/c I've never had this tea before.

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   Posted 1/9/2013 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello :)

I was wondering what dose of cistus tea I should take? currently I am having 1 teaspoon a day and brewing that 3 times. And when do I take it? i.e on an empty stomach? with food?

I have chronic lyme, and was diagnosed with it as being in the CS fluids when 6 years old, I have alot of neurological symptons. I am now 20.

Thaank You.

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   Posted 1/9/2013 11:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Hello everyone,

I find myself always asking for proof when it comes to this disease. All too often, people desperate for a cure are often the victims of lies and scams. And us lyme victims are unavoidably integrated into this viscious cycle. So I find myself questioning everything, including this tea. I have yet to see any type of evidence suggesting that this tea does anything more than lysterine does. The amount of antibacterial properties this tea has is a mere fraction of green or black tea. And I have yet to be cured of lyme with either of those teas. Does anyone have any proof of anything? Scientific studies? I would much rather spend my money on something that works rather than yet another scam.

Sincerely,
Samantha
Undiagnosed lyme, bartonella, anaplasmosis, babs for 25 yrs with a 16 year old that I passed lyme and coninfections to through pregnancy. We both began treatment 1/6/11. Still treating. Daughter will be a success story hopefully in 2013!

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   Posted 1/10/2013 1:32 AM (GMT -6)   
Sam makes a good point. This stuff is quite pricey, and I'd be interested to know a little more about it. I searched for some info, but pretty much everything I found was in German and I couldn't translate.

Does anyone have any personal experiences with it that they'd like to share? mugaruka, opugirl, macrobarry...are you seeing any results?

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   Posted 1/10/2013 1:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Tickled- I just read your post! Have you tried it, and if so, what do you think?

I also just read about the $7.95 version...was the shipping fairly reasonable? I'm pretty broke these days, but then again that's what happens when you don't work, right?! *sigh*

Thanks! :)

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   Posted 1/10/2013 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I haven't recieved my shipment yet but I will let you know. And unfortunately scientific studies can be very, very expensive expecially with human clinical trials. That is why many natural remedies do not have scientific data b/c who is going to pay for this expensive research when the product cannot be patented??? Not to mention getting it published is a nightmare.
Sam, you are wise to be skeptical of any treatment. I am also.
I'll keep everyone updated.

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   Posted 1/10/2013 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
The one study I saw was

http://www.jodjournal.com/article/S0300-5712(08)00109-7/abstract

and according to this, it states "Lysozyme, amylase and glucosyltransferase activities immobilised in the pellicle were not affected following a rinse with Cistus-tea. However, peroxidase activity was reduced significantly"

"Conclusions

Cistus-tea may be used to reduce the initial bacterial adhesion in the oral cavity."

Which translates to Lysterine.. It kills the bacteria that originates the 1st step in the process of creating an ORAL biofilm. If anyone knows anything about biofilms, this is nothing. There are 5 stages to biofilm development, and this is hardly the important one. Then it further states that it is absorbed in the gut.. nearly all teas are.. Thats how our bodies metastitize teas.

The study states, "Lysozyme, amylase and glucosyltransferase activities immobilised in the pellicle were not affected.."
In this case , Lysozyme is referring to the saliva. Amylase is an enzyme that catalyses the breakdown of starch into sugars. Glucosyltransferase enable the transfer of glucose. The study flat out states that the tea does nothing for this!

Now, it did state that peroxidase activity was reduced significantly, but what peroxidase activity was it? There could be numerous effects.. However.. the conclusion sends the entire message, "Cistus-tea may be used to reduce the initial bacterial adhesion in the oral cavity." Initial bacterial adhesion are the bacteria that form together to cause dental plaque It isn't even the plaque itself. Great.. maybe if I run out of toothpaste and lysterine I will turn to it.. otherwise I am not wasting my money.

Btw, I also looked up the chemical constituency of the tea. It has a fraction of the amount of tannins, flavinols, and glucosides that green, black, or oolong tea have. And as for the "polyphenols," a term that scientists use loosely because they feel that too many things are allowed to be considered a "polyphenol," this tea applies ver loosely to that term as well..

I would love to hear anyones experience with the tea, because I understand that sometimes there are no explanation for things, and I do have faith. But I have also taken a stand against those that are trying to make a buck off us. But I do ask that when the results of said tea are reported, please state any other changes you have recently made in your diet or meds that could really be the reason for change. Because even the studies prove I get more from brushing alone...

Good luck all, sorry if I burst anyone bubble.. Wasn't my intention..
Undiagnosed lyme, bartonella, anaplasmosis, babs for 25 yrs with a 16 year old that I passed lyme and coninfections to through pregnancy. We both began treatment 1/6/11. Still treating. Daughter will be a success story hopefully in 2013!

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   Posted 1/10/2013 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
Hey opugirl,

My exboyfriend, who I broke up with because I felt I wasnt getting the support I needed from this, decided to step up and help. He works for a company that has a database of all scientific journals and studies.. He gets me anything I want for free. And its not really true that there are a many natural remedies without scientific data. It seems that it is nearly impossible to not find things without scientific data.. the problem is that we are not exposed to this info because it is copyrighted and patented.. But when you have someone working on the inside, and the results of these studies are now free.. its like all the grey walls have lightened and turned pink.. Let me know if there is something you wanna know.. I can get the answers for you.. And that goes to anyone on this site. If someone wants to know a study of some sort that if not free to the public.. let me know. I would be delighted to help!
Undiagnosed lyme, bartonella, anaplasmosis, babs for 25 yrs with a 16 year old that I passed lyme and coninfections to through pregnancy. We both began treatment 1/6/11. Still treating. Daughter will be a success story hopefully in 2013!

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   Posted 1/10/2013 12:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Sweet, I might take you up on that.

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   Posted 1/10/2013 1:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Please do so. I find the best help I found is through support and all of us advocating together. I have done extensive research in Lyme and other diseases, though mainly Lyme..down to the nitty gritty, not just the basic stuff, down to the way it interacts, mutates, with our bodies, chemicals, and natural supplements.. It is especially helpful when you have access to it all. So please, if you have any questions, I would love to help. I am currently working with some very creative and inteligent peoples with beginning a non-profit center. I am in CT, so we are very concentrated with Lyme patients here, and the goal is to help with awareness in schools.. For kids are much easier to teach than adults. They are much more open to suggestions it seems. Even if I only help one person, I feel I have fulfilled my goal.
Undiagnosed lyme, bartonella, anaplasmosis, babs for 25 yrs with a 16 year old that I passed lyme and coninfections to through pregnancy. We both began treatment 1/6/11. Still treating. Daughter will be a success story hopefully in 2013!

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   Posted 1/10/2013 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd like to interject yet another angle of thought here. This thread started out with a link to an article written by Dr. Klinghardt who endorses the use of cistus tea. I have read many of Dr. Klinghardt's articles over the years. He mentions the names of hundreds of different brands of products in his articles. He personally tests them for effectiveness, toxicity, and adverse side effects. He has done his homework, while many doctors have not. He shares the fruit of his research and experience as a public service. I am not saying that Dr. Klinghardt's opinions are infallible or that they are applicable for every person.

Sam, I am not saying that you are characterizing Dr. Klinghardt's article as a source of a possible scam. However, the fact that you caution people about a possible scam could be understood as implying that Dr. Klinghardt's advice could be associated with a scam. What would be his motive? He is an actual LLMD. Does he own stock in the hundreds of companies all over the world that sell the products that he "endorses"?

I agree that in the end that patient experiences are the most overall reliable source of information for this illness. We should be cautious, but we should not be paralyzed. The IDSA fiasco is a perfect example. The so-called scientific approaches were nothing but rabbit-trails for my daughter. Consensus does not necessarily equal truth, and truth does not necessarily equal a cure. I for one was forced to embrace a paradigm that corresponds to the reality of the situation for my daughter. Maybe someday the "science" will offer a cure that will heal everyone.

Dr. klinghardt has made a startling statement. I would either drink your Listerine or the Cistus Tea. If anyone on the forum already sees value in the biofilm busting product that they are using- don't change. This has been a very thought provoking thread.

Once again, I am not directing this thread against Samjones. I am direting this towards anyone who may have misunderstood his post.


Don
We are older parents and Heather is our only child. She became so sick and debilitated that we thought that she was going to die, and everything looked so hopeless and bleak. However, God answered our prayers, and used the healing hands of Dr. J. at the Hansa Center to more than restore the health of our precious daughter. I have a moral obligation to help others that are likewise suffering!

Post Edited (Heathersdad) : 1/10/2013 12:33:03 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/10/2013 7:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I apologize if any part of my post was misleading, and I can see where one can make the assumption that I am calling Dr. Klinghardt a scam, though that was not my intention. I too have much respect for the man, but to make a statement like, "Cistus is more potent than any other agent known for biofilms," is one that immediately triggers a reaction to find proof. What is this cistus all about? How can it benefit me? Will this be my cure to clear the biofilms and hopefully rid this Lyme? Or will it be another way for me to dump my money into something that doesn't work?

Many of us question many methods and herbs by many LLmd's, naturopaths, and anyone else who claims they know how to treat us for Lyme. And it is a good thing, because how many times have we received an improper diagnosis, a bad reaction, or a false hope. What I fear, are the people who are not yet aware of these things and follow suggestions because they don't know where else to turn or because someone has a reputable name.

Just because a doctor is an LLMD doesn't mean we should take everything they say and not question it, especially statements that are so bold and definate. There are many LLMD's that have opinions and make statements that many of us don't agree with. The reason for my post was to share what I have learned from a scientific study. And in that study, the association with biofilms was that "Cistus-tea may be used to reduce the initial bacterial adhesion in the oral cavity." Is that how the tea kills biofilms? Before they are made? If that is the case than the statement, in my opinion is misleading and offers false hope. And in the world of lyme there are many scientific terms that are difficult to comprehend without being a doctor or scientist.

So maybe "scam" was the wrong choice of words for my post, however it was referring to others that have tried and still try to make money from those of us suffering. Further, the word "scam" doesn't simply imply money, but also fame. What doctor would't want to be known for curing lyme, or any other chonic illness. Let me make clear that I am NOT stating that this is Dr. Klinghardt's intention, nor am I stating that his methods should all be questioned, or his integrity, or his character. He has made tremendous strides for the Lyme world, but many strategies by many doctors have created hype and false hopes in many, only for the hype to wear down.

Again, I apologize for anyone that may have been offended for me sharing my opinion or looking for an answer. And I am still looking for answers to anyone's experience with this tea. I will not put anyone down, nor refute how you feel, or debate your answer.. I am looking for opinions and experiences to form my personal conclusive opinion.
Undiagnosed lyme, bartonella, anaplasmosis, babs for 25 yrs with a 16 year old that I passed lyme and coninfections to through pregnancy. We both began treatment 1/6/11. Still treating. Daughter will be a success story hopefully in 2013!
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