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andy cotton candy
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   Posted 4/26/2013 8:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, so can you people that have done these tell me if you think they work. I did one and lets say it was a experience and it seemed like all it did was make me herx! Is this normal? Does it take several times before you see results. And my guts haven't been the same! cry   thanks for any advise........Andy

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   Posted 4/26/2013 9:07 PM (GMT -6)   
andy cotton candy,

I have done coffee enemas. I do think that they work, but there are some things to know. I think that it would be rare where a person doing a coffee enema would notice a positive difference immediately. I have read that the liver has many "compartments", and that each coffee enema only cleans cleanses one compartment per treatment.

I recommend that you first do a simple warm water enema to clean out the fecal matter from your colon. Then do the coffee enema. Then do another warm water enema to clean out any toxic residue that may be left behind in your colon as a result of your coffee enema. Failure to do so may cause you to reabsorb toxic material that has not been expelled.

Any time that you get the toxins moving in the body, it is possible to feel nauseated and temporarily worse. I hope that you try it again with the addition of the additional warm water enema afterwards. I don't know if anybody else does it my way, but it works for me.

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andy cotton candy
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   Posted 4/26/2013 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you so much for telling me this. I thought how can you guys do things when it just makes you feel terrible. I will definitely try it again your way. I will do anything to get try to get better. Thanks again
Andy

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   Posted 4/27/2013 5:56 AM (GMT -6)   
Also interesting!  I always use a warm water enema before I do a coffee enema but not afterward, I guess everyone is different...  The first time I did a coffee enema I didn't feel any different, but after doing them for a while, I definitely notice a difference, more energy and just cleaner inside!
 
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   Posted 4/27/2013 11:51 AM (GMT -6)   
There's one thing I noticed everytime I do the coffee enema: when I'm in a panicky, bad negative state of mind, it clears it up immediatly (maybe combination of enema and kind of meditative state of mind? but it works, so very happy with it). Very strange, not imagination, it's something I notice afterwards, I'm never waiting for it to happen.
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   Posted 4/27/2013 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Something I always want to add - for those without a gall bladder, there is some evidence that it may not be safe to use a coffee enema, so please be aware of this!
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andy cotton candy
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   Posted 4/27/2013 2:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, so I have my gall bladder so there should be know other reason it isn't a good thing? I still am new too all the detox stuff. There is just something about putting coffee up your well you know!

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   Posted 4/27/2013 3:49 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL! Yep!! I do know! LOL!

The only thing you want to remember is to take all things slowly! Detoxing, starting new meds/herbs/supplements, changing your diet and any other thing that could have an impact on the body. We are quite ill to be honest and it's the little things that can really throw us sometimes!

Coffee enemas really do help quite a few people, but I'm one without a gall bladder (thanks to Lyme & company), so I got to chicken out on that! turn giggle!
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jupitergma
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   Posted 4/27/2013 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Trav..

What's the reason behind no coffee enemas for those of us without gallbladders? I tried a coffee enema when I first started treatment and it was terrible for me.. had diarrhea for a week. I thought it was due to the fact that I have a 'redundant' colon, which means that my colon is about a foot longer than normal, so it has a lot of twists and turns. However, I do not have a gallbladder so that could be why I had such a bad reaction to it. Interested in the reasoning behind this.

Thanks,
JupiterGma

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   Posted 4/28/2013 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
blush Well, this is embarrassing! LOL! The only places that I can find information saying that one should be careful of the coffee enemas when they don't have a gall bladder is my own posts here!

I know that I found info stating that it may not be safe before - I don't just make up my own info - but since I can't verify it now, and I can find many places where it says it is safe for those without a gall bladder to use coffee enemas, I retract that!

I'm not only embarrassed, but so very sorry! I really want this site to be full of info that can be backed up and verified by reliable sources - and here I am contributing stuff I can't back up! blush

Excuse me whilst I hide in the dark corner with my dunce cap on!
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Post Edited (Traveler) : 4/28/2013 12:14:21 PM (GMT-6)


jupitergma
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   Posted 4/28/2013 12:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Well I'm just never coming back to this forum again!

NAH! Just kidding. You must have read it somewhere in the past.

With all the wonderful, informative advice that you give everyday, not to mention your devotion to helping others, don't be so hard on yourself. You're still aces in my book!

Hugs,
Gma

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   Posted 4/28/2013 12:13 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL!! I think I love you! turn giggle!! Seriously, I am embarrassed!! - but thank you for being so gracious about it!:-)
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andy cotton candy
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   Posted 4/28/2013 12:33 PM (GMT -6)   
You guys are all great! And Traveler I want a goat!! I still think coffee enemas are well weird! But we do what we got to do......Andy

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   Posted 4/28/2013 12:49 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL! turn If you are near Northern Arkansas, I just happen to have some pretty cute goats for sale!! Giggle! smilewinkgrin
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Deejavu
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   Posted 4/28/2013 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, what a topic!  Enemas, gallbladders, and goats! 
 
I honestly don't know much about doing or not doing coffee enemas if one does not have a gallbladder. 
 
The article below is from Dr. Max Gerson (for those who don't know him, he is known for alternative medicine for people with cancer):
 
 

Coffee enemas rapidly help remove toxins from the liver.

They often provide quick relief when one is fatigued, sleepy, has headaches, or is just feeling poorly. They also help against spasms, precordial (heart, throat, chest) pain and difficulties resulting from the sudden withdrawal of all intoxicating sedation.

A coffee enema, when done properly, causes the liver to produce more bile, opens the bile ducts and causes the bile to flow. In this process, a toxic liver can dump many of its toxins into the bile and get rid of them in just a few minutes. This often gives great relief to all parts of the body, and often makes the difference between lying down feeling miserable and feeling good and being active. Coffee enemas are also effective in relieving pain. Patients with cancer, for example, may achieve relief from pain even when drugs failed.

At the start of the treatment and during flare-ups, the bile contains poisons, produces spasms in the duodenum and small intestines, and causes some overflow into the stomach. This may cause feelings of nausea, which could result in the vomiting of the bile. If this happens, drinking a good quantity of strong peppermint tea will help wash out the bile from the stomach and bring relief.

It is interesting to note that drinking a cup of coffee has an entirely different effect from that of using it as a cleansing enema. Drinking coffee causes the following problems: increases reflex response, lowers blood pressure, increases heart rate, causes insomnia & heart palpitation, over stimulates the adrenals, irritates the stomach, and leaves a toxic residue in the body. A coffee enema when done properly will not produce these effects.

 

Below is from Curezone about doing coffee enemas for people without a gallbladder:

I have just received a message from Gar Hildebrand who runs the Gerson organization and this is his reply for anyone interested:

Cholecystectomy does not contraindicate coffee enemas at all. To put this in context, removal of the gall bladder deprives the liver of its depot for storage of preused bile, ie., bile that has been partially saturated with toxins is dessicated and stored for additional uses.

Bile goes through this process 9 - 10 times before it becomes too saturated with adsorbed solutes and is allowed to work its way out of the body through the intestinal tract. Post-cholecystectomy, the liver compensates for the lack of stored bile by producing more, which it is quite capable of doing. Many people find that grazing with 6 small meals per day will help them avoid digestive problems.

On challenge with coffee per rectum, the liver and small-gut wall intensify their detoxification enzyme (glutathione-S-transferase) activity six to seven fold. Bile production itself is increased by as much as 25% - 30%. Once the palmitates of the coffee have been cleared, bile production returns to normal, a process taking 30 - 60 minutes. Detoxification enzyme activity remains elevated for hours.

 

Denise


Well for 7 years without any symptoms ~ used Dr. Jernigan's protocol.

Our bodies are wise as they can heal themselves, all one has to do is nourish them properly. Thus it's about the Immune System mixed with Daily Detoxing, a dose of Positive Thinking, and Lowering Stress Levels.

I come back to help others for others helped me when I was sick. Pay it forward! :-)

jupitergma
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   Posted 4/28/2013 6:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Re: Enemas, gallbladders, and goats! (oh my!)

Too funny!

Thanks for clearing that up for us Denise. Wish I could do them; however, as you know the laws of physics do not apply where my colon is concerned. Due to redundancy of my colon, what goes up does not come down.

I do give myself kudos for trying.

Hugs to you my friend.

Post Edited (jupitergma) : 4/28/2013 6:13:14 PM (GMT-6)


andy cotton candy
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   Posted 4/28/2013 8:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow this is great info everyone thanks for all the help. And glad this post made some of us laugh haven't done that in awhile. Enemas, gallbladders and goats who could ask for more!

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   Posted 4/29/2013 11:09 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm so glad you asked this! My ND has told me to start doing enemas and I did one a few weeks ago. I just tried warm water and it was very interesting to say the least. She said to start with the coffee. I can't imagine! Now I know a bit more of what to expect.

And Traveler, don't be embarrassed! You are awesome and helpful and very reliable. I haven't been on this forum for a while, but I can't imagine anyone here would call you unreliable.:)

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   Posted 4/29/2013 2:21 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL! Thank you Kimomile! I embarrass myself regularly in real life too, so why not in the virtual as well?
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andy cotton candy
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   Posted 4/29/2013 8:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey Kimomile, welcome to the coffee enema club! Hope we have much success since last time was a disaster. It helps to have everyone on here give us advise. I am very new at all of this.........And yes Traveler your great! Never in a million years would I think I would ever be talking about this let alone doing such a thing but thanks to lymes every things a adventure!

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   Posted 4/30/2013 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Andy! It's truly amazing what having Lyme & company has made me be willing to talk about!! LOL! It's an adventure for sure! smhair
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   Posted 1/29/2015 8:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Some genetic mutations make it hard to handle coffee. Homocysteine is elevated when you have the MTHFR mutation and have coffee, for example.

That said, I'm always checking out this forum on coffee enemas to remind myself that its not just me doing them! When I do them every day, I feel at my best. Even when I was off antimicrobials and my Lyme was going wild I didn't notice because I was constantly eliminating the garbage (that's my theory anyways).

Its worth trying. Its cheap. And if you make sure your equipment is constantly sterilized, its safe.
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   Posted 1/29/2015 9:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I have no idea what everyone is talking about except for the goats. I am not looking to buy a goat--maybe just some goat cheese--I like that :)

But can someone post a link to how to do a coffee enema? I get that from what is discussed it's something quite--oh, I can't find the words. Lol. So I think a link would be more appropriate. Maybe a link to the equipment too, whatever that is. Thanks!
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   Posted 1/30/2015 1:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Here's some reading for you, Simela:
metabolichealing.com/coffee-enemas-benefits-guidelines/

gerson.org/gerpress/helpful-hints-what-to-do-when-you-cant-hold-a-coffee-enema/
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   Posted 12/3/2016 5:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Bumping this - I just had my first coffee enema this afternoon. I don't have time for the warm water enema after - and hope that a chamomile enema tomorrow will do. I think I should have done a warm water enema first before doing the coffee enema. Maybe tomorrow I'll repeat the whole procedure. LOVE this forum. So much great info! Feeling a little more energized than usual.
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