Symptoms worse in winter??

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lymerunner
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   Posted 11/14/2013 1:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm sorry...I know this has been mentioned before, but why do symptoms seem to get worse when the weather gets cold?? I feel like crap!! Now that I think of it, I feel quite a bit like I did this time last year cry   Does anyone have any suggestions or tips to beat these cold weather blues?! I'm using a heating blanket but I can't wear it when I'm outside and when I'm inside I have to share it with husband, kids, and the cat lol!

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   Posted 11/14/2013 1:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Maybe part of it is all the other sickness going around during winter on top of everything else making things worse.
I feel horrible in heat and in cold. Anything not in my confortable range makes me feel worse so idk.
I have kinda lost hope for ever feeling completely normal again lol.

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   Posted 11/14/2013 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes a thousand times! My condition goes from bad to unbearable in the winter and cold. I do great in low humidity heat. Hawaii is my favorite place on earth. I'm trying to find a way to move there.
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   Posted 11/14/2013 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
My daughter feels worse in the winter and I do to some extent. I'm cold, even with the heat set at 70.

We got a Biomat this year and it helps a lot. My daughter uses it when she's achy or stiff. I use it when I can't get warm or when I'm stiff and I do better afterwards. I often take a nap on it. They have some you can use on your bed, but none of them are cheap.

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   Posted 11/14/2013 6:58 PM (GMT -6)   
When the weather gets cold, our blood circulation slows down as well - making the toxins sit in our system longer, the blood is a bit thicker and of course we have more tendency to sit still longer too!

Try adding an extra layer of socks and other clothes. Drink hot herbal teas - except when you should be drinking water smilewinkgrin, and snuggling closer to hubby!!! LOL!
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   Posted 11/14/2013 8:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I usually wear 3 layers, a shirt, a fleece jacket, and a down vest, which isn't real thick and it helps. I have some fleece lined slippers which helps a lot on the wood floors. And sometimes I just snuggle. :) I need to get another fuzzy dog. Our prior one liked to lay across my feet, so they were toasty then.

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   Posted 11/14/2013 10:09 PM (GMT -6)   
A few things come to mind: now that the sun is not shining as strong, the body cannot absorb vitamin D from the sunlight and this will make you feel depressed and will augment your symptoms.

One of my symptoms is that I am sensitive to cold so naturally, this time of year I am even more sensitive because of the colder ambient weather. I do what Garden Peace does as well, Once the temperature gets lower than 30-40 degrees, I put on my thermal long underwear (Long Johns) and wear a t-shirt and a sweatshirt indoors and outdoors. I also bought wool socks which are very good at warming up your feet.

I am lucky that my wife also suffers from "coldness' so she doesn't mind when I throw a few extra blankets and comforters on the bed at night. Sometimes it gets so bad that I even put pillows on top of me at night to stay a little warmer. My indoor temperature is kept at 76 degrees and at work I have a portable heater that I keep under my desk to keep me warm.

And as for the outer layers, I searched for coats, gloves, scarves and earmuffs that have a lot of Thinsulate in them. I find that stores that cater to hunters and construction workers (Cabelas', Gander Mountain, Bass Pro-shops, and Farm & Fleet) carry the heavy duty stuff. Even my shoes have Thinsulate in them. For those of you unfamiliar with Thinsulate, it is a very thin insulating material that is placed in between the inner and outer fabric. The more grams of it in the article, the warmer it is. If it doesn't say how much of it is in it (in grams), then it probably doesn't have enough.

I almost forgot that places that cater to skiers also carry some good stuff to keep you warm in the winter.

Post Edited (Healing98) : 11/14/2013 8:12:07 PM (GMT-7)


lymerunner
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   Posted 11/14/2013 11:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks everyone for the input!! It does make sense. My LLMD recommends a tanning bed once a week in the winter for vit D. Do you guys do that? Healing 98, I know about the thinsulate and it is wonderful!!! My hubby and I spend alot of time outdoors in the winter. If I start shivering, it really makes the muscles and joints hurt!! Gardenpeace, I have a fat furry cat you can borrow lol!! Traveller, can you recommend a good hot herbal tea? SleeplessNJ....hawaii.... turn HallieMae, we will make it out of this!!!

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   Posted 11/15/2013 3:00 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the offer, but we already have 3 cats too many. ;) Would you like another one or two? :)

Mercola.com has tanning beds you can buy. One hangs on a door, just one sided. You have the option of no tanning, just getting your vitamin D. They're designed so they don't have the harmful parts that many commercial tanning beds have. Not cheap though. I have my D drops that do me fine.

Other good places for warm clothes are REI, Lands End, and LLBean. Wool and Alpaca is warm, the latter is supposed to be the warmest without the itch. We have a nice wool blanket and wool comforter, but they're too warm for my husband. He sleeps very warm, so we're not very compatible that way. I sleep much warmer when I'm healthy.

I try to lay on the Biomat once a day to keep the critters uncomfortable. I tend to stay warmer for a few hours after being on it an hour. That may not be the case when it gets colder out.

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   Posted 11/15/2013 10:11 AM (GMT -6)   
I actually like herbal teas like Chamomile and Mango from Bigelow, or Tension Tamer from Celestial Seasonings.

Stash has some really yummy herbal teas like Mango passionfruit, Chocolate hazelnut (Yummy!!!) or Chocolate orange (double yummy!).....hmmmm I think I see a pattern here - even chocolate tea!! But if it's herbal, there's no caffeine!!!

When I get bored with the herbal selections, I will use an occasional decaff tea, but I have to be careful to drink these only before 3 pm as to not keep me awake at night.
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PrayingForAMiracle
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   Posted 11/15/2013 3:07 PM (GMT -6)   
For me Summer is horrible! I just can't handle the heat anymore and humidity kills me.
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   Posted 11/15/2013 3:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I can't bear dampness,it doesn't matter what the temperature is,the dampy weather reeks havoc.

lymerunner
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   Posted 11/15/2013 6:33 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the "tea tips" traveller! Do u think heat can make you herx? Slept with heating blanket last night and my muscles jerked so bad this morning it woke me up!!

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   Posted 11/15/2013 6:36 PM (GMT -6)   
LOL! yep! Heat kills the bacteria! I used to have to avoid heating pads and heated blankets for that reason. I would feel sooo horrid afterwards! I would also have a very "loud" buzzing going on in my nerves so that it actually hurt!

Hopefully you can find a balance though so that you can use one!
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   Posted 11/16/2013 5:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I like all the suggestions for staying warm during the colder months, but my issue is the yo-yoing going on inside of me. First, I'm so cold it seems I can't do anything to get warm, so I'm bundled up and snug. Next, a hot flash hits me and I'm tearing everything off of me in a flash! It's not pretty. I wait it out, and sweat, sweat, sweat. Then, the flame goes out and the damp, coldness settles all over and I'm back to freezing again!!! If you have these lovely co-infect. you know what's going on and how horrible it is to have all day/all night!!!!


Then, the tingling and pain in the back of my neck, lower head and upper shoulders also is affected by the cold. It's so hard to get any relief. I haven't figured out yet how to help with all the symptoms that are running around inside of me and wrecking havoc on both my body and mind!

lymerunner
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   Posted 11/16/2013 8:25 AM (GMT -6)   
In A Cocoon Now ....That sounds miserable!!! I know, what can be done about about that tingling that goes on in our bodies?? I have constant tingling right now in back of my left heel!! Its driving me crazy!!

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   Posted 11/16/2013 9:25 AM (GMT -6)   
In a cocoon - have you tried using a heating pad on your neck yet? I know sometimes that would really help - other times, not so much.

I remember one day, hubby and I were taking our travel trailer to the next job site for hubby. On the drive, I had the weirdest sensation!!! The top half of me was hot (in the sun) and the bottom half of me had goose bumps because I was so cold!! I drove with the window down and a blanket across my legs! I was sure glad that no one else had to endure that with me!
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   Posted 11/16/2013 9:27 AM (GMT -6)   
The tingling is a nerve issue. Have you tried using anything natural for it? If you are interested, a nervine that has helped me (and still does) is Avena Sativa. It doesn't help everyone, but for some it can really make a difference.
Lyme herbs used: "Chronic Tonic" from www.mistymeadows.org/wendydocs/Lyme Disease.pdf for 9 months

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Garden Peace
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   Posted 11/16/2013 3:02 PM (GMT -6)   
That does sound miserable. At least you're detoxing when you sweat! :) The nice thing about wool is that it doesn't hold in the moisture like synthetics can. I hope you find some help to slow down those episodes.

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   Posted 11/16/2013 8:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks LymeR, Trav and GP

I have tried the heating pad and at times it does help. It just gets tricky/uncomfortable due to the hot flashes/night sweats. I haven't tried the Avena Sativa. Can that be used while I'm on other herbs?

I really believe a lot of what I'm going through the past two days is due to the new smoothie detox I've started on. Maybe the addition of the niacine. I had used too much the first day (yesterday), as I didn't know to start with only 100 mg and not the 300 mg. I only found out the lower amount should be used to start after the person who posted the detox part for the synergy protocol revised the post. Way too much to start with and now I'm suffering more than I have for a long time. Oh well....user beware, I guess. : (

claude783
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   Posted 11/17/2013 10:54 AM (GMT -6)   
One of the reasons is that your not getting enough sunlight to stimulate the bodies production of Vit.D

Another problem in colder climates is SAD (depression) which is caused by not getting enough sunlight.

Probably all related to the Vitamin D levels in the body.

Vitamin D also has anti-biotic properties.

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   Posted 11/17/2013 11:15 AM (GMT -6)   
"I really believe a lot of what I'm going through the past two days is due to the new smoothie detox I've started on. Maybe the addition of the niacine. I had used too much the first day (yesterday), as I didn't know to start with only 100 mg and not the 300 mg. I only found out the lower amount should be used to start after the person who posted the detox part for the synergy protocol revised the post. Way too much to start with and now I'm suffering more than I have for a long time. Oh well....user beware, I guess."

Yes, you do need to be very, very careful when using something that you got off the internet - even if it is here - and there's no doctor overseeing what and how you do it. You could get into very serious medical situations. Even though I found my treatment online, it was created by a trained Herbalist - not just someone who choose to research for a couple of months- and then I had a Master Herbalist that I was seeing to help monitor what and how I did things.

Do your own research on the things you intend to use, or stick to ones that have already been researched, please! Even if I tell you about something. Like the Avena Sativa - although it's incredibly safe (which is why I'm willing to mention it all the time) and won't generally react with any other herb or medicine, that doesn't mean that - a)it won't react to a medicine or herb, or b) is right or will work for you.

We really do have to be our own health advocates, researching the things we take, and speaking up about what's going on in our bodies. It's a lot of work, but we really have to be careful when we are so ill.
Lyme herbs used: "Chronic Tonic" from www.mistymeadows.org/wendydocs/Lyme Disease.pdf for 9 months

Bart herb - only Houttuynia for 6 months
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letstake5
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   Posted 11/17/2013 8:41 PM (GMT -6)   
In a cocoon. You can email WWJD20 with any questions, she is very helpful
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   Posted 2/15/2018 8:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Bumping this thread to not create a repetitive thread topic.

This is my 3rd lyme winter and February is always the worse month, as it is the most dreary where I live.

I can handle a couple days here and there of dreary overcast weather but when it's several days and multiple weeks, lymie symptoms pop up more.

Some of my neuro symptoms are trying to rear it's head.

I know weather plays a big part because there can be a day that's starts of dreary and gloomy. Clear up in the afternoon and it feels like a switch has been flipped and I feel significantly better.

Just would like to hear others insight on this topic.

Thanks.
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   Posted 2/15/2018 10:15 PM (GMT -6)   
Well as you know, we are a product of the food we eat and our daily environment. This effects our body chemistry, thus our brains. Our body probably perceives winter as a somewhat stressful time to (for those who actually have winter). In the past, winter was not always survivable.

Then throw in pathogens which also changes our body/brain chemistry and this wont make the outcome any better.

You dont hear or see wild animals much on dark or wet days either. The hibernating bears in the cold states got it all figured out!

For the record, since I'm feeling better all around, winter is now a little easier for me than it was during the days of my lyme "Abyss".

I've made a few posts on this and the subject of daylight. I've never tried "fake day lights" as they seem to time consuming to use. I lack motivation in dreary winter weather but don't really get depressed from it. I'm very much an outdoor person in the summer and get very energized from it.

I live in the coldest area of the lower 48, however, our February usually has less overcast than November thru Jan, so I'm over the worst of the dreariness - and my motivation has finally picked up. Just waiting for the thermostat to "pick up", which will happen soon. I really dress in layers now, the cold doesn't help my muscles at all going to work in the AM - thats the worst part. On real cold sunny weekends- I've layed/vegged in the sunlight on the living room floor, it felt pretty good!

The older I get, the less winter outdoor stuff I feel like doing. The last three winters were easy for me, this year had way to many below zero mornings. The coldest cold days I'll never get used to, that said, summer always arrives eventually. Heat kills me, so the deep south is not an option. South west costs too much full time. Guess I'm stuck here. The desert south west life is looking better every year for a winter get away, not for summer though.

Post Edited (astroman) : 2/15/2018 9:10:05 PM (GMT-7)

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