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MarieLS
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   Posted 5/3/2014 4:30 PM (GMT -6)   
I almost always feel sick after sleeping (very exceptional when I don't). A night's sleep is not that bad, but naps (short or long) make me feel sick when I get up. I'm so tired I can't stay awake, but when I wake up I feel nauseous, overall bad uncomfortable feeling (waking up without alarm). Mostly lasts for the rest of the day when I slept during daytime.

(I never feel well waking up in the morning either, but the feeling is not that bad)

I've been wanting to post this for a while, but I always forget.
Lyme/Bartonella/Yersinia/Chlamydia Pn. Sick for +/- 20 years (34 now).
Started treatment August 2012 with 15 months of abx - now on a modified Cowden Protocol since December 2013. Leaky gut, heavy metals, EBV, XMRV, erythema nodosum, Hodgkin's Lymphoma at 15, Lyme arthritis, Neurolyme, food allergies/intolerances, histamine/chemical intolerance

BarnGurl
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   Posted 5/3/2014 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Marie, I do get that sick feeling but not usually when I wake up. I always feel tired no matter how much sleep I get. I have about half or less my normal energy so I do not push myself. I dont know if I would take naps if I woke up like that. :o)

Louise74
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   Posted 5/3/2014 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I always wake up very nauseous. Most mornings I have spent dry heaving on my bathroom floor. It hasn't totally resolved but has gotten way better with treatment.

In the beginning of getting sick, I would try to sleep sitting up which helped a little. I'm only just now able to sleep lying down.

I'm not really sure why this helped but it did a little.

BarnGurl
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   Posted 5/3/2014 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Im still having difficulty falling and staying asleep. Any idea how long this lingers..? Im really hoping it subsides.

Razzle
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   Posted 5/3/2014 7:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Homeopathic Lachesis is for those who always feel worse after resting/sleeping...
-Razzle

Chronic Lyme, Bart., Gluten & Sulfite Sensitivity, Many Food/Inhalant/Medication/Chemical Allergies & Intolerances, Asthma, Gut dysmotility & non-specific inflammation, Lupus, Osteoporosis, etc.; G-Tube; TPN-dependent
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Summersun
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   Posted 5/3/2014 8:30 PM (GMT -6)   
MarieLS - I feel pretty rough after napping too, but I am so exhausted I need to have one. I usually just feel groggy and spaced out, sometimes nausea, weakness, dizziness. It usually takes me a while to "get my motor" running again.

Barngurl - I have the same difficulty staying asleep. I have had some improvement lately where it's not every night, but I still happens too much and especially if there was some stress in my day. I really hope it gets better too. As you know all our symptoms get worse when we don't get enough sleep.

ToddPaul
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   Posted 5/3/2014 8:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I know that feeling well Marie. I don't nap but I sometimes wake up in the morning feeling exhausted and sick. It is definitely sleep that brings it on. Luckily the sick feeling doesn't happen often and when it does it doesn't linger into the day.

Garden Peace
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   Posted 5/4/2014 1:23 AM (GMT -6)   
My daughter has said she doesn't like going to bed because she knows she'll feel worse when she wakes up, so she knows how you feel.
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LoveTheLight
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   Posted 5/4/2014 1:38 AM (GMT -6)   
I call this the boogie man !
When we are ill we need all the blood flow and energy we have to just try to battle this disease
I don't know exact mechanism but I am finding blood flow is important issue and many of us due to biofilms and thick blood already struggle and at night laying flat everything slows even more and builds up at night as organs are all sluggish and again worse at night. It has only improved proportionately to my recovery.

Sleeping without kinking your neck such as fetal cindition and sleeping with slightly elevated mattress. You can raise just the top end of your frame slightly. Also a hot shower prior to bed. Some very very gentle movement. Not exercise but like stretching body like I hang gently from a chin up bar to open up my whole back and neck and just to simple small things to avoid making blood flow hindered.

Just ideas that help me.
I used to sleep in a chair as I was so afraid and hated going to bed
Did not work but u sure can relate.

bluebyyou
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   Posted 5/4/2014 4:28 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Marie, I used to feel that way too. It got better with treatment. I also started doing detox baths before bed and then again upon waking up.
"If you can't fly then run, if you can't run then walk, if you can't walk then crawl, but whatever you do, you have to keep moving forward." -Martin Luther King

"Be kind, be brave, be well."

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sknight
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   Posted 5/4/2014 7:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm in the same boat as the rest of you. I've always been jealous of people who can take a 20 minute nap and pop right back awake feeling rested (my immediate family falls into this category). I can sleep for 10-12 hours and not feel rested. Always groggy, always feeling sick, sometimes feeling nauseous. I don't think I've actually felt "awake" (mentally) since my pre-teen years.... and I'm now 43 years old. And lying down is usually when my heart starts racing. It's almost more comfortable to sleep with my head on my folded arms which are resting on my desk. Truth be told.... I often napped like this in my office, back when I still worked a day job. I'd wake up with sweater sleeve impressions on my forehead. lol :p
November 2011: Dx'd hypothyroid, treating with Armour thyroid
November 2012: CD57 = 34, then tested positive for lyme & co. (lyme, bart, babesia, myco. pneum., clym. pneum., RMSF, also EBV, HHV-6)
October 2013: resigned from a 15 year career due to lyme & co. symptoms, now attempting to work from home

Joyful01
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   Posted 5/4/2014 12:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I thought it was just me. I am soooo ill after naps. I always say I feel like I was hit by a bus.

chloe24
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   Posted 5/4/2014 12:39 PM (GMT -6)   
This is so me. I fall asleep every afternoon and wake up feeling dreadful. Disoriented, headache, dizzy and sometimes hot.
This is interesting Marie, thanks for bringing it up. Others have the same problem. Thick blood? Poor circulation? Sleep elevated?
=]chloe

MarieLS
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   Posted 5/4/2014 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
I never imagined getting so much response on this... I'm clearly not the only one.
I've been home for 4 days, and slept a lot, and feel so bad... happens each time when I take rest...

Razzle, I had a look at that homeopathic Lachesis, and it seems to help solve almost entirely to what I feel. Thank you (again wink)

LoveTheLight, thank you for the tips! When I get up in the morning, I try to stretch out a bit, like a cat does, it helps a little bit to get my motor running. I have a bad habit of sleeping with my neck bent to the back. I can imagine this can't be good, but it happens automatically. I can never find a good sleeping position. I'll try to change my sleeping position.

Barngurl, I hope your sleep gets better (have you ever tried ashwagandha?). I had to start taking Klonazepam, but still on same dosage as 4 months ago. And antihistamine to get my heartrate down.

MarieLS
Lyme/Bartonella/Yersinia/Chlamydia Pn. Sick for +/- 20 years (34 now).
Started treatment August 2012 with 15 months of abx - now on a modified Cowden Protocol since December 2013. Leaky gut, heavy metals, EBV, XMRV, erythema nodosum, Hodgkin's Lymphoma at 15, Lyme arthritis, Neurolyme, food allergies/intolerances, histamine/chemical intolerance

Maine76
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   Posted 5/4/2014 6:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I absolutely have had this problem as long as I can remember, I mean since I was single digits in age. I never knew it was lyke related, I also often wake with terrible anxiety/panic mostly naps with the panic. I'm the am I feel like I am literally going to puke on myself when I wake. It is horrible!
Excuse typos and or spelling and grammatical errors. I try to proofread, it's hard right now. Believed to be infected at least 28 yrs, dx 2012. Kiddos with congenital lyme. I am a nurse but a sick stay at home mom currently.

sknight
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   Posted 5/4/2014 6:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I laid down for a nap at 3pm this afternoon, thinking I'd probably sleep for an hour. Woke up FOUR hours later.... exhausted, headachey, dilated pupils, dizzy, etc.

Don't 'cha just love this disease ! :(
November 2011: Dx'd hypothyroid, treating with Armour thyroid
November 2012: CD57 = 34, then tested positive for lyme & co. (lyme, bart, babesia, myco. pneum., clym. pneum., RMSF, also EBV, HHV-6)
October 2013: resigned from a 15 year career due to lyme & co. symptoms, now attempting to work from home

BarnGurl
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   Posted 5/4/2014 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Marie I have been keeping myself going in fear that if I stop I will crash. That is what every work week is like for me. I just thank God for the medicine bc if it wasnt for that I wouldnt have a job or health insurance.

MarieLS
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   Posted 5/5/2014 1:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Barngurl, I have the exact same thing going on.
 
I need to keep on working, or I won't have the funds to pay for my treatment. I can't stay home every now and then, cause the company I work in is doing bad, I don't want to get fired. Each and every day is a struggle, and it also gets harder and harder. I live on automatic pilot, drag myself through the days.
 
Each time I have a holiday, I'm getting excited because of the fact that I will be able to sleep more and get naps whenever I have the feeling of falling asleep (I often fall asleep at work, behind my screen, then I have to get up and get outside to wake up).
Then, when the holiday is there, I feel even worse because I sleep????

BarnGurl
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   Posted 5/5/2014 6:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Marie, This disease is nuts. I think working helps me keep my sanity though. You realize others have many problems also. I just keep pushing myself a long. I rarely nap during the week, too busy. Keep chugging along with meds supplements and epsom salt baths. haha...Man we need a break :)

PaulnJordansmommy2
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   Posted 9/5/2016 6:16 AM (GMT -6)   
So, snakes venom? Sounds too scary to try.

Traveler
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   Posted 9/5/2016 6:40 AM (GMT -6)   
You must be referring to the Homeopathic Lachesis, P&J's Mom?

While under normal circumstances I'd agree with you, this is a Homeopathic remedy. The venom is very highly diluted. Homeopathy is a very different form of medicine as it teaches "like treats like" to put it a bit too simplistically. They take very small amounts of a product and dilute it down to minute amounts, so you would be getting far less venom than one would receive in, say, an actual snake bite.

Homeopathic remedies are often very safe, as long as the person doesn't have an allergic reaction to it. The thing to do is to match up your symptoms with the remedy, but that's about all I know of Homeopathy.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

PaulnJordansmommy2
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   Posted 9/5/2016 12:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I want to stop feeling so horrible in the morning. Do you know of any other herbs /supplements for this?
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