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ezery
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   Posted 10/19/2014 4:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I read all the posts for Sponaugle and would like to know if any of you that were treated there at the wellness institute would tell more about your experience.

I was diagnosed with chronic Lyme a little under a year ago. Mine is the typical story of dozens of doctors and 15-20 years later....here I am. I have been looking at my options as far as treatment. Went to a homeopath nurse for IV treatments but that does not seem to have worked. My husband was also diagnosed with Lyme. So here we are, $15,000 later, and not much to show for it.

If I am going to go in debt trying to get better, I really want to be sure I am making the right decision with the Sponaugle Wellness Institute. There are a lot of pretty negative remarks on the internet about him, but I noticed that most, if not all of them, have to do with his treatment protocol for patients dealing with drug addictions rather than his treatment of Lyme patients. :-)

Delmar
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   Posted 10/19/2014 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I was really impressed with them when I started looking into it. (I'd hope to be with the cost) BUT, I couldn't leave my 2 year old son for 10-12 weeks - that's what they said would be the minimum amount of time it would take for me to get well, and I just can't be away from him that long... If not for that, I would have done it in a heartbeat.

I still have them on the back burner... If 6 months from now I'm not 100% - I will certainly revisit the idea. I just found out my son has Lyme too - his sx aren't horrible currently, but I'm keeping Sponaugle in the back of my mind for him too - down the road.

Hope you get some comments from some who've actually been.

Good luck to you!!
Symptoms October 2013
Incapacitated February 2014
LLMD April 2014

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Cheetahjade
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   Posted 10/19/2014 4:48 PM (GMT -6)   
If you can get in contact with Lymebabe, she'll be able to tell you. She went earlier this year. You can even check out her blog harpgirlvslyme.blogspot.com she has some entries about her time there. Haven't seen her in awhile though. Hoping she's recovered and too busy to be on here.

Louise74
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   Posted 10/19/2014 4:50 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been in contact. I'd like to in like 6 months or so if I'm still sick. I've spent thousands on appointments and supplements and lost my job so at the end if the day it would have been worth a shot in the first place. I would be the first clinic I'd try.

ezery
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   Posted 10/19/2014 5:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I am a teacher and five years ago I was to the point of not being able to handle it anymore. The brain fog and confusion, the mixed up words in my conversations. I could not manage my class very well. I believe God opened up a door and allowed me to continue teaching in an area where it was much less demanding. I still struggle and often don't want to be there, but so far I am able to keep working. Lots of health issues, though.

Does anyone have thoughts as to why the very negative feedback from some of Sponaugle's patients??

ToddPaul
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   Posted 10/19/2014 7:49 PM (GMT -6)   
From what I've heard the knock on Sponaugle is that it focuses more on detoxing than killing. I got this from a Lyme facebook group which practically jumped down my throat when I mentioned I heard (from reading Lymebabe's blog and posts) that it's a good place. The few that responded basically said that many relapse because they barely do anything to actually kill the infections. If true then it would seem a better place for those with mold/heavy metal issues than Lyme and co-infections. I know Lymebabe had a major mold issue so makes sense that she did so well. It's a tough choice as it involves so much time and money that is made tougher by the fact that some will respond favorably and others won't depending on a whole host of factors.

Garden Peace
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   Posted 10/19/2014 9:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Are you working with an LLMD or ND? IF not, you might want to start there first before you spend so much money on a clinic. If you need the names of some in your area, you can start a new thread with the subject being something like "Looking for LLMD in _____" (city and state). Make sure your email is enabled so people can send you names, since we can't mention them on the forum for their protection.
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ezery
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   Posted 10/28/2014 7:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I have been working with a naturopath. She treated me with IVs and other methods too. But after stopping treatments I began to have other symptoms (not that I was symptom free during treatments). I still struggle and she seems to not be interested in helping too much anymore, so I am trying to figure out what to do next. I don't know that I am ready to do antibiotics which is what a LLMD does, right?

My husband said he has a friend who will let me stay with them while doing my treatments with Sponaugle. I am really torn with whether or not to try Sponaugle. Is it really necessary to charge those kinds of prices?? $3,000-$4,000 a week?? Especially when the reviews for him are so inconsistent.

Nosila
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   Posted 10/29/2014 8:51 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello ezery, LLMD's don't necessarily prescribe antibiotics. There are many LLMD's open to herbal treatment. My LLMD treats primarily with herbs, but will consider Rx drugs if needed.

Traveler
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   Posted 10/29/2014 1:02 PM (GMT -6)   
One of the main issues I see with clinics is that they only get you started with detoxing and/or treatments, you still have to continue these things on your own afterwards - and many people don't understand this I believe.

I would suggest that you try switching to a different LL doc - one that has been trained by ILADS would help. We can be of help with that if you need.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12 - no active symptoms
Healed from tick-borne infections, now healing from the damage they left behind.
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364

Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
Back in treatment for new Lyme case 8/2014

CarlG
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   Posted 10/29/2014 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
I had the plesure of speaking to lymebabe a few months back
And she described a success story from lyme & co with mould and now holding down a job.

After adding up all my options and speaking to LB I decided to book
My stay at the wellness centre for January next year.

I'll keep everyone updated :)

lymediseasebreakdown
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   Posted 1/26/2016 12:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Has anyone gone through with treatment at Sponaugle? I am considering them and would love some feedback

Jackie Moon
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   Posted 1/27/2016 3:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes you can email me if you would like to discuss
Babesia duncaii, tularemia, mycoplasma, protomyxzoa, dengue fever - in remission. Bartonella still hanging around.

Traveler
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   Posted 1/28/2016 5:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Jackie Moon, why don't you post your experience here where others could benefit from it as well?
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15
*I can usually post a link to any info that I post. Wish to see a link? Please just ask!

Jackie Moon
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   Posted 1/29/2016 1:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Dr Sponaugle is the real deal. No doubt about that at all. In a perfect world of insurance covers every dime of Lyme treatment costs his program would be at the top or near it. BUT:

The cost is very expensive to the average Joe. Few people have the money.
It is a lengthy program and frankly very tough. Aggressive treatment is. Really. It taxed me completely. Their were days I literally crawled into the clinic so sick. I met a lot of patients on his website. Amazing turn arounds happen. They do. But you got to want it with ever inch of your body. Very few realizes how hard people work to get out of wheelchairs or make amazing turn arounds. I am not questioning anyone toughness or commitment to their current treatment, but as most know their isn't a magic formula that makes you better over night. I wish there was.

Would I do it again. In a heartbeat.

Like I said if anyone has questions I can answer them.
Babesia duncaii, tularemia, mycoplasma, protomyxzoa, dengue fever - in remission. Bartonella still hanging around.

Post Edited (Jackie Moon) : 1/28/2016 11:34:00 PM (GMT-7)


Mishka01
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   Posted 5/9/2016 1:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi jackie

How long did you stay at the wellness centre?
Are you still treating now?if so with what?

Krimpet 🍔
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   Posted 5/9/2016 3:09 PM (GMT -6)   
I would recommend checking out Lifeworks Wellness Center if you are really thinking about Florida. I hear so many good things about them and treating Lyme disease.

Jackie Moon
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   Posted 5/9/2016 7:17 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes Lifeworks in Clearwater and Sponaugle Wellness in Oldsmar treat lyme. They are almost identical in cost but different flavors of treatment.

I think @carlG has a very accurate post explaining what actually happens at Sponaugle Wellness and explains it better than I could. It is a good snapshot of treatment length and what is used.

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3363956
Babesia duncaii, tularemia, mycoplasma, protomyxzoa, dengue fever - in remission. Bartonella still hanging around.

Traveler
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   Posted 5/10/2016 9:01 AM (GMT -6)   
So you too had significant improvements, Jackie Moon? I sure hope that's the case for you!!
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

carla
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   Posted 5/10/2016 1:46 PM (GMT -6)   
It is scary...cuz all of use don't have the money for a clinic....

sister7111
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   Posted 5/14/2016 6:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I was trying to decide which one to go to...Lifeworks with Dr. Minkoff or Dr. kaladis in Orlando...please help me decide...any information to share? I have not heard specifics of Sponaugle...and how long do you have to stay there?

Krimpet 🍔
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   Posted 5/15/2016 9:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi. I'm at Lifeworks now. Just started treatments last Thursday.

AnnieLaird
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Total Posts : 21
   Posted 1/1/2018 8:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow, I am bumping an old thread here...in case any of th e people were following this thread might be able to post update about their treatment

mpost
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   Posted 3/22/2018 3:19 PM (GMT -6)   
if all the money in the world would make you healthy again, do u think all these stars sick with lyme will be pumping millions of $ in foundations to boost scientific research ?

/nypost.com/2017/09/11/yolanda-hadid-made-her-own-poop-lab-to-treat-her-lyme-disease/

worth a read before you spend all your money on ... anything.
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