Need to remove a mercury amalgam filling!!!!

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Girlie
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   Posted 4/24/2015 2:35 PM (GMT -6)   
Last July I had a dentist appt. -hygiene and check-up. I had broken off a piece of an old mercury amalgam filling...and she spotted it...and said I needed to have it replaced with a white filling.

I told her I would eventually, but not right away, as i had to come back for another hygiene appt. to finish what was started, and at that time I was just recently diagnosed...and didn't want my mouth open that long - she said 70 minutes in the chair. I was only doing 1/2 hour hygiene appointments at the time, so not to strain my neck muscles.

So, although I should have gone back for another hygiene 4 months later...I waited until today. So, it's been 9 months...and did panoramic xrays to check bone loss on my upper an lower jaw. After the hygiene, the dentist checked me over and reminded me of the filling replacement. She said that it looked like another piece had broken off.

So, please don't suggest a biological dentist...there doesn't appear to be any near our home. Since, two pieces have broken off...I'm thinking of doing the replacement in a couple of months. I know that even with a dam, little bits may go into my system...but I think that may be happening already, anyway. I've read that you should have oxygen at the time, so not to breathe in the fumes...she doesn't supply that...just a dental dam...and a rinse with water after. shakehead

How bad is it? It doesn't mean it will set me back for sure, does it? Considering, it's compromised already...and two pieces have broken off in the past year...what do you think I should do?
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achievinggrace
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   Posted 4/24/2015 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I recently broke a large filling (I think it was actually an inlay) and had to have crown put on. The session where they removed the rest of the filling and some decay seemed to "stir things up" for me. I had a rough night that night but was fine by the morning. The other sessions to prep the tooth for the crown and to have the crown installed were fine.

It is good to get these things taken care of.
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   Posted 4/24/2015 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I'd probably take care of it sooner rather than later, if for no other reason than Lyme bacteria like the mouth and any problematic area is at greater risk of infection/inflammation. I've been dealing with tooth issues for the last 2.5 years and had a tooth pulled in September after a failed root canal & apicoectomy. I just had the screw put in for the implant and will finally have a "tooth" back in my mouth in August.

I hate dental work, not because of the usual reasons people hate the dentist but because my mouth is quite small and my jaw is messed up (maybe TMJ). Do they put something in your mouth (on the side they're not working on to keep it open? That takes a lot of the pressure off your jaw.
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Girlie
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   Posted 4/24/2015 3:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I think I'll have it done...it's better for me in the long run.

I have a small mouth, too...so it's hard on me as I have to open real wide. I don't know if she will put something in my mouth to rest my jaw. It's been a long time since I've had any dental work done other than the hygiene appts. and my hygienist lets me rest my jaw periodically.

Can't remember the last time I needed dental work done.
Symptoms started Sept, 2013 (maybe sooner?)
Buhner's protocol May 15/14 to July24/14
Igenex positive July 3, 2014; Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14
Zithro July26-Aug.24/14
Amox 1000mg x3 + Probencid started Aug. 29/14; added biaxin 500X2 Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox and added Ceftin Nov. 20th. End of Jan/15 pulsing Tindamax ; disc biaxin
Buhners bart herbs started Dec/14

lymie mom x 2
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   Posted 4/24/2015 4:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Girlie~

I was in my dentist's office for a routine cleaning last Nov (before I knew I had lyme). We had the usual xrays done and I noticed I still had 1 mercury filling on a top molar. I had no idea, lol! I told him I wanted it out and asked if I needed to schedule a separate appt. He checked his schedule and said, "nope, we can do it today!" and about 20 mins later I had it out and replaced with a white one. I think the cost with insurance was about $70.

This was before I learned about bio dentists, so I really have no idea if it was removed with the safest methods, etc. I don't remember having oxygen, but I do remember the shots into my gums and cheek for the numbing effect (sorry if that freaks anyone out).

I have since done some of Dr. Ks protocol for heavy metal detox with the cilantro, chlorella and clay. Dr. K says often times when mercury is removed, all the other metals in the body will detox out naturally. I felt some things were definitely stirred up with the cilantro, although I am not positive it was all removed completely. I guess I wouldn't know that without a hair sample. But I continue to take the chlorella and clay.

I would get it done sooner rather than later. You'll be so happy that you have it behind you and you can focus on your healing!
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Louise74
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   Posted 4/24/2015 5:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I had 4 out with a biological dentist. It shouldn't take 70 minutes! So there is a big time protocol but if it's only one, I guess I would roll the dice and have it done now. I can tell you that they put activated charcoal under my tongue. Ask for the dental dam if they have it. The covered my whole face in some sort of cheese cloth like gauze. I did have the oxygen and there was some other stuff too. I also took liposomal vitamin c after the filling was done. It's supposed to detox the novacaine. They also had me take pestacol before and after the procedure. I'm glad that I did it.

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   Posted 4/25/2015 10:30 AM (GMT -6)   
Girlie:
Dr. K recommends a detox item that is specially design for when you remove silver fillings--it does not work to detox mercury from the body in general, but only when you have the filling removed. You should be able to find the article fairly easy on his site. If you can't find it, let me know and I will try to look for it when I get a chance. You can research the product and see if it's something that will help you. Yes, cilantro is a good detox for mercury but it has to be done correctly or the mercury will be released and will go to other parts of the body, which makes things worse than before according to dr. K.

Girlie
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   Posted 4/25/2015 2:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the feedback

Lymie mom and Simella - I will definitely look into some metal detox before I have it done.

Louise - It's going to actually be two teeth - the one right next to the tooth that the amalgam chipped off - also has a mercury amalgam filling and she said there is a small cavity now beside the filling and she said since they touch each other it is best to get them done together. That way it's a better fit and she wants just enough room between to fit floss but not large enough to harbour food particles.
So that's why it's 70 minutes.

I hope it doesn't strain my neck muscles to have my mouth open that long. Although maybe part of that time is allowing the freezing to take place - and my mouth will be closed for that time.
Symptoms started Sept, 2013 (maybe sooner?)
Buhner's protocol May 15/14 to July24/14
Igenex positive July 3, 2014; Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14
Zithro July26-Aug.24/14
Amox 1000mg x3 + Probencid started Aug. 29/14; added biaxin 500X2 Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox and added Ceftin Nov. 20th. End of Jan/15 pulsing Tindamax ; disc biaxin
Buhners bart herbs started Dec/14

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   Posted 4/25/2015 3:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Be careful-I would find a biological dentist-drilling out mercury can be dangerous! Mercury is the 2nd most deadly element known to man (why anyone thinks that should be 2 inches from brain)-good luck

sierraDon
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   Posted 4/26/2018 2:06 PM (GMT -6)   
I was actually just at the dentist today, i have 2 silver fillings I didn't realize i had. going to get them out i think, they are small ones.

the procedure seems pretty standardized at this point, yet i still want to inquire how my dentist removes them.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 4/26/2018 2:58 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm going back to the biological dentist next week. I went in January, had biocompatibility testing done, and then stalled out of fear. I'm going back next week to go over the test results and ask more questions. I have a mouthful - 14 I think.

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   Posted 4/26/2018 3:35 PM (GMT -6)   
WalkingbyFaith said...
I'm going back to the biological dentist next week. I went in January, had biocompatibility testing done, and then stalled out of fear. I'm going back next week to go over the test results and ask more questions. I have a mouthful - 14 I think.


I thought I had a lot - I think I have 7 now (had 9) only in my molars and one bicuspid.

I didn't notice and thing after the procedure. I wasn't sure whether or not to chelate - if you don't take all of them out, chelation make pull the Mercury out of the fillings and into your bloodstream.

I did try to coat my throat with charcoal prior to going in.

It was a long procedure - too long...my mouth is quite small apparently and the dentist had trouble working in the back of my mouth.

I did get the freezing..so it didn't hurt at all.

I felt something - a bit of tenderness in that area when chewing and also flossing, so I was careful about not putting too much pressure on that side of my mouth when eating...I was concerned it was aggravating the root and didn't want any issues there.
Took a few weeks before I was biting down normally without feeling something.
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Girlie
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   Posted 4/26/2018 3:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Just an FYI - the dates of some of the posts are incorrectly showing yesterday but they are really 2015.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

sierraDon
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   Posted 4/26/2018 8:15 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks from what i gather the more risk is involved with larger fillings. more opportunity for fumes or particulate matter to come off from drilling if the filling is big. if they are small, less chance of that.

its frustrating that yet again this specialty area is divided, biological versus conventional dentistry...nothing can be easy.
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