Blue Eyes ??? - I Have Begun To Notice Something . . .

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Tano
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   Posted 7/26/2015 1:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I've got blue eyes, and I'm having trouble with treatment ... Recently, I have noticed that most of the celebrities who have been hit hard - Yolanda Foster, Avril Lavigne, Darryl Hall, Kathleen Hanna - they all have blue eyes ....

While blue eyes might be pretty to look at, the fact that they are blue is a lack of pigment, which obviously is genetics .....

I believe there is a genetic connection here - with the ability ( or lack of ) to detox and the amount of inflammation generated ... Perhaps even circulatory issues which make it more difficult to reach the bacteria, and release the toxins ...

Does anyone else here have blue ( or light colored ) eyes ??

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   Posted 7/26/2015 1:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Perry Fields also has light eyes

Michael J Fox, and sadly, Robin Williams too

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   Posted 7/26/2015 3:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I have blue eyes -
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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:04 PM (GMT -6)   
So do I....
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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:38 PM (GMT -6)   
I have blue eyes

Tano
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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:41 PM (GMT -6)   
There is definitely a correlation ..

I have the A1298C MTHFR ( homozygous ), which indicates an issue with BH4 and nitric oxide - both of which have a big impact on lymphatic flow ..

One the one hand, I don't think we have super bad strains of anything ..

On the other hand, our genetics make it more difficult to get rid of ......... Perhaps killing bacteria isn't priority #1

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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
My eyes were even a lighter blue when I was younger - people describe my eye colour as 'icy-blue'

I don't know why they got a darker blue as i got older.

What about Ashley Olsen - her eye colour?
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Tano
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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Melanin contributes to the pigment .....

I also began getting grey hair in my early 20s ...

From Wikipedia:

"Melanin also protects against damage from high temperatures, chemical stresses (such as heavy metals and oxidizing agents), and biochemical threats (such as host defenses against invading microbes)."

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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Girlie said...
My eyes were even a lighter blue when I was younger - people describe my eye colour as 'icy-blue'

I don't know why they got a darker blue as i got older.

What about Ashley Olsen - her eye colour?



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Celeste15
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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, blue eyes here too.

Tano
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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I think we have established a connection here :

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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I dont' know, Tano. I have blue eyes, had Lyme and co-infections (all of them if the LLMD is to be believed) for 40 yrs. I healed in 2 & 1/2 years of herbal only treatment - was reinfected last year, and healed quickly (5 months). I have been bit by many ticks this year and I still am free from these infections as I use an herbal preventative.
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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Mine are brown...

Interesting tho...

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   Posted 7/26/2015 4:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Was diagnosed with chronic lyme, bartonella, and possible babesia(this one based purely off symptoms, tests were just too darn expensive).

I have blue eyes.

mixed with a whole lot of blood shot, most of the time.

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   Posted 7/26/2015 5:02 PM (GMT -6)   
For many years, I had the 'whole lot of blood shot' - I just thought it was because blue eyes were more sensitive. This was prior to even having lyme symptoms.

If i didn't get enough sleep - bloodshot....if it was windy out...bloodshot...if I went swimming....bloodshot...
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   Posted 7/26/2015 5:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Traveler said...
I dont' know, Tano. I have blue eyes, had Lyme and co-infections (all of them if the LLMD is to be believed) for 40 yrs. I healed in 2 & 1/2 years of herbal only treatment - was reinfected last year, and healed quickly (5 months). I have been bit by many ticks this year and I still am free from these infections as I use an herbal preventative.


Oh thank goodness !!

Trav, you save the day again - I was hoping you would chime in and say that you had blue eyes, and give us that inspiring push !!!!

:D

Trav, I never thought the genetic aspect was a life sentence - but as you always point out, detoxing and other issues should NOT be ignored .....

As I mentioned before, the ticks or cats or whatever don't give us super bugs because we have blue eyes - but it requires a little added or different approach

( .. and sorry about that Dr Wilson link in the other thread .. lol )

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   Posted 7/26/2015 5:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Another inspiration

Healed, well, and competing in track again:

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   Posted 7/26/2015 6:41 PM (GMT -6)   
I have baby blue eyes was misdiagnosed for over 2 years with symptoms been treating since March and I'm like 80/85 percent my energy is back and it's just a little brain fog cold intolerenc and air hunger left, so I don't think my eyes made any difference , I had terrible fatigue for over two years when I didn't have treatment and 5 and a half months later it's back

dorifish1
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   Posted 7/26/2015 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
my eyes are brown, but got a blue ring around it,

don't know why,

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   Posted 7/26/2015 6:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting theory… I have read that blue/green colored eyes do have a set of associated genetic issues.

I have specs of gold around my pupil that makes the color look different depending on what I'm wearing. So, my eyes are either blue or hazel or green. They go very blue turquoise blue when I'm crying. lol

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   Posted 7/26/2015 8:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Mine are what is considered Hazel, which is a blue-green that changes apparently with mood and other things.

One thing to begin with, candleinthewind having brown eyes doesn't invalidate the theory. Brown is dominant and a person only needs one brown eyed gene to have brown eyes. So a person with Brown eyes will have either 2 brown eyed genes or one brown eyed gene and one other.

We all talk about genes (the general public who hasn't had genetic testing) as if a gene only has one purpose, but we know it's made up of a lot of SNPs. So the interesting thing to know is if the SNP(s) that cause eyes to be blue share space on the same gene as those that cause us to be more susceptible to Lyme.

Also the SNP(s) that cause us to be more susceptible to Lyme could be on either copy of that particular gene, because genes come in pairs.

It's an interesting theory. Just like anything genetic it is more complex than just one gene, but it makes me wonder if the people who got the vaccine and had problems also have at least one blue eyed gene.

Does anyone know if the 23andme data gives information about eye color, hair color and skin pigmentation or other easy to judge characteristics?

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   Posted 7/26/2015 9:31 PM (GMT -6)   
gkamom, when I first had the 23andMe test done, they emailed a little profile back to me saying something to the effect of "you are most likely thin, full head of fine hair, blue eyes ... etc etc "

They pretty much nailed it

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   Posted 7/26/2015 9:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Something else I'd like to toss out:

Because I began seeing grey hair in my 20s, I have dyed it for years and years - monthly, and either dark brown or black ...

And this got me thinking -

For example, my sister always dyed her hair without a problem - and then she got a tattoo .. and now when she attempts to dye her hair, she gets explosive rashes ....

Those with the inability to detox harmful substances from the body are not limited in that ability to one particular thing ...

Copper, zinc, B12, and apparently melanin are all required to detox - among probably dozens of other things that in turn must work in harmony

This is much more involved than killing bacteria

No more hair dye for me ... and ironically ( ? ) the path of my pain begins on my right side, near the ear and over the jaw - this is directly over where my lone silver filling was .....

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   Posted 7/26/2015 9:40 PM (GMT -6)   
Really Tano?
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Tano
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   Posted 7/26/2015 10:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, but this is even more interesting:

When I was first treated, my symptoms were migraines, neck pain and sciatica ..... The migraines disappeared within a month of antibiotics, and also, cutting out wheat/gluten

I did not have ear/jaw issues then - now, everything seems to stem from that spot, and there is a small lump directly over the jaw hinge

Things in this spot began about 3 months after having that filling removed ( by a biological dentist who is really respected well )

Now - crazy theory - were the metal toxins from that filling keeping bacteria out of that area all those years, and when the filling was removed, the batronella/lyme/babesia were able to establish territory there ???

Or did removing the filling release a significant amount of mercury ?

Maybe I am over thinking it .....
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