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Snue
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Posted 9/15/2015 6:18 PM (GMT -7)
Has anyone tried ozone therapy for late stage Lyme? I am contemplating this. I have done 9 months of antibiotics along with banderol and somento. Although better I am still dealing with Lyme symptoms and fatigue. I don't want to do antibiotics again and am exploring herbal protocols and looking into ozone therapy.

I have a LLMD next appointment is late October. Trying to get info before that appointment.
Just wondering if anyone has tried it and if anyone has had success from it.
Thanks, susan
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sarahm620
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Posted 9/16/2015 5:52 AM (GMT -7)
Hi Sue, I've done IV ozone. What would you like to know? I did about 4 sessions and did not have any improvement, but I haven't had any improvement from anything, so don't let that discourage you. :)

If your LLMD offers it, it's definitely worth a try.
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Snue
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Posted 9/16/2015 6:57 AM (GMT -7)
Hi Sarah,
Thanks for responding. The doctor offering the Ozone is saying it takes many sessions for a long time in order to eradicate the Lyme. So his plan is treatments 3-4 times a week for maybe a year.

I was a bit concerned when he says it kills off the good bacteria also, so I was feeling like it was like antibiotics again which was not what I wanted to do.

It's just confusing trying to find unbiased info about it since many of the articles are written by doctors who offer ozone.

Did you have any herx reaction from it?
Thanks, Sue
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sarahm620
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Posted 9/16/2015 8:24 AM (GMT -7)
That makes sense, as that is the treatment time for basically any protocol.

Well, it's not the same as antibiotics because it's IV, not oral. It avoids your stomach because it's IV. (Unless you meant IV antibiotics.)

I did not have a herx reaction from it. Many people feel energetic after treatment actually, according to my LLMD, because they are oxygenating your blood. I did feel a slight boost after the first treatment, but nothing afterwards.

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myeezy24
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Posted 9/16/2015 8:43 AM (GMT -7)
If your going to do ozone you might as well invest in your own machine with the amount of treatments you need and how often you need them for any benefit I wish I could afford one
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Snue
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Posted 9/16/2015 9:13 AM (GMT -7)
So if this is being injected into your blood, how would one do that at home? What type of machine is it? Do you have a link to share?
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gkamom
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Posted 9/16/2015 12:28 PM (GMT -7)
I'm curious how this could help anyone other than the doctor. It is a red flag to me that the doctor said it will take 3-4 sessions a week for a year for it to help.

I get that oxygen in the blood kills things off, but isn't that the point of adding hydrogen peroxide to the epsom salt baths. I know it certainly would be more concentrated by IV.

I just haven't seen anything on this forum that seems to indicate it is something very helpful.

Many years ago, I was seeing a chiropractor when the insurance coverage ran out. He gave me a "deal" and charged me the amount that would have been my co-pay, $35 but also wanted to see me 3 times a week. That was roughly $400 a month and I never really got too much benefit. Eventually, I decided it wasn't worth it.

How many thousands are you going to pay this doctor? Is it the best way to be treated or is there a better use for that money?

My current doctor gave me a new medication and told me the only problem was that it would take three months to see a difference. But it was a medication that cost me $10 a month and it was worth every penny of the $30. Some of my worse symptoms went away. Without knowing it I was treating Babesia. This was even before I knew anything about Lyme. The science was also there at least for the symptoms I had - severe joint pain, drenching sweats and pain on the soles of my feet. Best $10 a monthI've ever spent.

I know that this may come across as callus, but it there science on Ozone therapy. I know some people might say there isn't science on a lot of the herbal remedies, but there really is. Many of the protocols have been put together by people who are educated in herbal medication. These herbs have known properties. There is a reason why each one was selected. It's no different than a doctor choosing one blood pressure medication over another. The first choice doesn't always work because we're all different. So we try something else.

I'll be happy to say I'm wrong, but I'd rather take a beating than have anyone be taken to the cleaners. Believe me I almost got taken by the dumbest scam in the world. I practically handed someone thousands of dollars. It wasn't a doctor, but I learned my lesson. Question everything.

Make sure before you hand this doctor thousands of dollars that it really is a therapy that does more than line his pocket.

Kim
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sarahm620
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Posted 9/16/2015 12:37 PM (GMT -7)
Snue, the way I did it, they took my blood into a bag, ozonated the blood and then put it back in through an IV drip. You would not be able to do that by yourself at home.

Kim, I understand your skepticism, but my LLMD is very reputable and they use these ozone treatments on a lot of patients. I'm sure there is science on it, but I'm very brain foggy today. If you google "ozone blood therapy Lyme disease" there are a LOT of results.
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Cat53
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Posted 9/21/2015 5:24 PM (GMT -7)
Toby uses Homozon as ozone therapy. He has been using it for at least a couple of months now. I wasn't sure if it was helping that much, but I think it may be. He seems to breathe better than he used to and his swallowing has improved a little. At any rate, oxygenating the body is a good thing ,whether ill or not.
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myeezy24
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Posted 9/21/2015 7:05 PM (GMT -7)
There are machines you can get that vary from 5000 to 1000 that can oxygenize your water or you can put on your ears or mouth to get the ozone if you think how much treatment will add up wth the amount you need and for how long you should invest in one I wish I could seems to be huge for people that do it correctly
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Cat53
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Posted 9/21/2015 7:34 PM (GMT -7)
The place we go to for healing uses that Myeezy. They really recommend it, but we have only done it once. I should bring a glass bottle everytime so we can use it.
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myeezy24
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Posted 9/21/2015 9:01 PM (GMT -7)
I would if I were you wish I had access
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sweetpeaisme
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Posted 9/21/2015 9:04 PM (GMT -7)
My Wholistic LLND believes in lower dosing of treatments. I did ONCE weekly, for 8 weeks of I.V. ultraviolet blood irradiation-which is one way of oxygenation. I also did 8 weeks of once weekly I.V. chelation. Both treatments caused SO much pain and fatigue; but I have since found out that I'm still dealing w/pain and fatigue due to having the mthfr gene mutation, which means I don't detox well...

Ugh!!! BTW, the U.V.B.I. did suppress my viral load, and my Lyme tests were positive before that treatment, and negative after ozone treatment(but also herbal tincture)
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Cat53
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Posted 9/21/2015 9:33 PM (GMT -7)
Sweetpea, I bet these treatments also caused pain when opening your wallet. Toby hasn't been to any doctor who treats Lyme so cue me in as to why this LLND didn't first find out - or while you were experiencing pain - if you have the MTHFR gene? Shouldn't that be resolved before these Oxygenation treatments? My husband may have these issues too...don't know...but I am concerned about this and want to make sure before doing anything that could cause problems. Are you sure you weren't herxing? There would be a lot of die off with oxygenation and if you couldn't handle the toxic overload, you would also herx. Did you get tested for the gene mutation? If so, how did you go about doing it?
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cirenep
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Posted 3/18/2016 1:20 PM (GMT -7)
What was your experience with the ozone? @Snue (or others)

We're thinking about trying it, or at least a home treatment, like ozone sauna, water, by ear, etc...
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PeteZa
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Posted 3/18/2016 1:25 PM (GMT -7)
Cirenep many of those posts are 6 months ago. Some people heal and never come back here.

Hopefully you hear from one of them, but if you don't I just wanted to explain why.
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PeteZa
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Posted 3/18/2016 1:28 PM (GMT -7)
I also notice that your email is not enabled. By enabling your email address someone could write to you privately should they not want to post their opinion online.

To enable your email go to My Profile
then go to Edit Profile
Put your email address on the line for email.
Oh Show Your Email Address bull's eye that option
At the bottom of the page hit Submit
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mystery1
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Posted 3/18/2016 2:48 PM (GMT -7)
hi, I self administered IV food grade peroxide for 1 year which is a milder form of oxidative medicine. I have been receiving IV ozone and Iv glutathione for the last 3 months. The peroxide is what got me out of bed after 2 years.

I have late stage neurological lyme disease and mycoplasma. I have noticed a decrease in my symptoms with the ozone and more energy. I also am using a jade tourmaline bio mat which has made a big difference. It has given be more energy, decreased my pain, and improved my sleep.
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Fuzzy1
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Posted 3/4/2017 2:22 PM (GMT -7)
Get your "10 pass" hyperbaric ozone from Dr. H at the ClearHealth clinic in Salt Lake City. He'll tell you that if he can see your veins, you can get all 10 passes from the get-go--no need to work "work up" to 10 passes and waste your time and money. He charges $400 for all 10 passes, BY FAR the cheapest in the country. It works very, very well--I'm about to "turn the corner" after 10 treatments--all this after 5 years on IV antibiotics with failure after failure. The secret is that ozone kills all Bb and co-infections, no need to use different ABX for different co-infections, all the while increasing your Bb cyst load. Ozone has no effect on Bb cysts, however, so you may still relapse, depending on how long you've been on ABX to drive the Bb spirochetes into cyst form.

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 3/4/2017 4:02:28 PM (GMT-7)

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Girlie
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Posted 3/4/2017 4:03 PM (GMT -7)
Fuzzy - I edited your post to remove the name of the Dr.
We only use initials when posting about LL Dr.'s.
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theskyking123
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Posted 9/18/2017 11:00 AM (GMT -7)
Fuzzy, any update on how you are doing now after the 10 passes, since your last post was a few months ago? Thanks.
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ChickenArise
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Posted 9/18/2017 12:11 PM (GMT -7)
Ozone by rectal insuflation is 95% comparable to injections. Buying a machine and doing it at home is best to keep cost reasonable.

SimplyO3 has machines around $650

If we have 5 people interested in purchasing we can get this down to $450 I believe. I would just let them know the people that were ordering so we could coordinate the discount with the least difficulty. Email me and we will see if we can hit that number.

The email is in my profile, not the one in my signature below which is to save my YT channel.

I havent purchased mine yet.
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magoo2
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Posted 9/18/2017 5:38 PM (GMT -7)
I bought my ozone generator from simply o3.
The research I read says it 95% the same as IV and way way cheaper.

I think it greatly helps-lots of research for anyone who wants to read it.

Good lectures on YouTube also
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sebreg
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Posted 9/18/2017 6:08 PM (GMT -7)
I'm going to look into HOCATT if I end up plateauing with my current strategies. Place in Phoenix is getting a machine, I have a couple friends who plan on doing it. From what I understand to see benefits from ozone you do need to give the therapy a chance and really do a decent amount of sessions. I don't know any of the nuances of that therapy though, and there are different ways to customize the treatments. This is a link to the HOCATT style ozone therapy: https://hocatt.com

I've heard good things about ozone in general, really seems to help some patients. Hyperbaric as well, sometimes that requires a heck of a lot of sessions so investment in the chamber is sometimes warranted if finances permit and you really want to go all the way with that therapy. I haven't tried it yet. I'll try ozone before HBOT though, I don't know why, maybe it just seems like people have better success with that?
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Evanston1
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Posted 9/19/2017 5:35 AM (GMT -7)
Sebreg- I've done the Hocatt. I did it a few times and found it to be very beneficial! However.... one side effect to be aware of it that some people can develop an "ozone rash" from the Hocatt. I, of course, was one of those people. It was brutal and not to be taken lightly. Took me six weeks to get rid of it. Flaming red, super itchy, very uncomfortable. The only thing that helped was super potency topical steroid cream.

I am considering trying it again and starting very slowly this time. Instead of starting at 20 minutes, I'll start at five minutes and wait a week before I do the next session.

I'm interested in rectal insufflation but concerned that it will kill all the good bacteria in my gut too. I've been working so hard on building that back up.

Do you feel the rife machine is no longer helping you move forward in your recovery?
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