Rife Machine and neurolyme

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gfields
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   Posted 1/17/2016 6:34 PM (GMT -6)   
If you have developed late stage lyme disease, and the spirochetes have entered your CSF and brain, will a rife machine be able to actually kill these spirochetes in the CSF/brain?

I'm assuming you wouldn't want to put the receivers directly on your head, being that the brain itself functions through electrical impulses. The rife waves could possibly interfere with brain waves I'd imagine.

In other words, is the rife machine only to be used on the body and not on the brain?

project
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   Posted 1/17/2016 7:29 PM (GMT -6)   
My first 6 months of using Rife (Borrelia and Bartonella frequencies) I was using handheld contacts. I had herxes that seemed to be killing stuff in the brain. I had a lot of anxiety, depression, some brain fog.

I'd get these herxes only from using a killing frequency, not detox frequencies. Also I bought my mom a machine as she got bit by a tick recently. She can run the same Borrelia killing frequencies for 25 minutes and get a small herx whereas I am late stage Lyme and can only do 5 minutes and have a major herx. In general with Rife if you don't have a particular type of bacteria in your system a killing frequency for that bacteria will have no effect on you.

The initial neuro-herxes have changed into more bone area herxes now. From this I think that standard electrical conduction Rife gets to the brain pretty effectively. I think it may not get into bone as well, so for bone involvement plasma Rife machines will likely be better from my recent experience with this other type of machine.

I have read that there are contraindications to putting the handheld contacts directly on the head due to the brain's own electrical impulses as you note. But I haven't actually heard of any such problems from general Rife use. When holding the electrodes you can feel you arm muscles contract a bit from the lower frequencies, and some machines will automatically reduce the voltage below a certain frequency threshold to prevent this. Plasma you cannot feel at all as it is just an radio frequency signal.

I dug up a quote I had read earlier from D Bergy who healed his wife's Lyme using Rife:

"Plasma machines do seem to penetrate into the spine and joints somewhat better than a contact machine. You also get harmonics from the tube itself, that are not present with contact method.
I have programmed in harmonics in my own custom Lyme sets. They work, but I do not know if they work better than any other Lyme frequencies.

The contact method worked extremely fast on brain problems from Lyme. I speculate that is because of the high water content of the brain. It may have nothing to do with it, but it worked way faster in this respect than I would have expected.
Possibly bettr than a Plasma tube in this respect, but further testing would be needed to prove this out."

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Post Edited (project) : 1/17/2016 6:41:44 PM (GMT-7)


gfields
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   Posted 1/17/2016 10:22 PM (GMT -6)   
thank you Project!

So, you think that just using the handheld devise will get pulses to the brain?

I looked up the plasma accessory for the Spooky2. It looks to be 200 dollars, which is do-able. I might buy the basic starter kit first. Use this for awhile and see how it works out and then maybe consider the plasma tube.

What neuro symptoms were you experiencing with lyme and how did the rife machine help to relieve them? I'm just curious about your personal experience with the machine.

Thanks!

project
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   Posted 1/17/2016 11:11 PM (GMT -6)   
gfields, yes in my experience using the handheld contacts the Rife frequencies definitely hit the brain.

I did start using Rife at probably 80% well, so I have made progress in my neuro symptoms already. Notably essential oils are also quite effective in hitting neuro-lyme from what I've found. I had some severe visual issues (afterimages after moving objects) that I managed to eliminate after 2 years of essential oils. That was a bit shocking as I thought they were due to some kind of permanent damage to the brain.

Since using Rife my anxiety and depression have gotten better, and particularly my brain fog has almost completely gone now. The herxes from Rife caused a flare in these same symptoms but then they receded over time.

It's probably best to start with a basic contact Rife system and only look into plasma once you get more experience with Rife. The plasma system is an add-on to the generator so you need the same generator for both contact and plasma.

These are the pieces you'd need for a basic setup (you also need a Windows computer to run the software):

www.spooky2-mall.com/spooky2-generator/spooky2-5m-5-mhz-generator.html
www.spooky2-mall.com/spooky-accessories/spooky-tube/spooky-hand-cylinders.html

The one thing I want to stress is that Rife is incredibly effective at killing Lyme and so you really need to start at very low usage times and work your way up to avoid overstressing your body with die off toxins. Probably start with 1 minute at first only once per week. Then keep incrementing depending on how much you herx.

2016 hz is a great Borrelia killing frequency. The frequencies are based on the Mortal Oscillatory Rate (MOR) of different pathogens. So it depends on their size and structure.

Science says viruses may be shaken to death
/www.youtube.com/watch?v=zosyirsTLbg

bonnawanna
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   Posted 4/24/2016 12:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi All,

I am new to this thread. I have late stage chronic Lyme, along with Ehrlicia, and most likely Bartonella. I am struggling mightily right now, as I am getting ready to start an abx pulsing protocol this coming Wednesday. Currently, I am not on any abx(off for a week), after being on Zithro, amoxy, and the doxy for the last 4 months. I have various brain related Lyme symptoms( severe headaches, itchy scaly, frequent shaking of my arms and legs etc,). My Lyme as is bad as it's ever been(scary bad), and I unfortunately was given steroids in the hospital(NEVER AGAIN) for a necessary heart procedure, and it has driven my Lyme symptoms wild. My new LLMD spoke very highly of the Rife machine treatment for Lyme, and I believe I would like to give a shot. Does anyone know if it is generally OK and productive to do Rife machine treatment while taking antibiotics at the same time; also I would like to go to a qualified Rife practitioner initially, before buying a machine. Does anyone know how someone would go about finding an experienced Rife provider.

Thanks in advance for any knowledge or update on these topics,

CJ

jamesmao
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   Posted 8/8/2016 8:57 PM (GMT -6)   
I've just got a phanotron tube from spooky2, it is kind of plasma tube but with more focused signal and powerful than the previous plasma tube , a perfect match for spooky central, which is recoganized as being powerful to treat lyme, cancer, morgellons.

bluelyme
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   Posted 8/8/2016 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
They got new tubes ..cool...i am trying to get a dark field to see if this shiznit actually kills the ketes ...

moca
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   Posted 2/11/2017 8:15 AM (GMT -6)   
good info project - thanks.

at what point did you see neuro lyme symptoms start to materially abate using the rife? was there any compelling event like adding additional frequencies or the duration per session of any particular frequency that you could correlate to improvements?

just completed 18months of pulsing abx (along with babs and bart treatments -- uhg, the yellow paint). def improved from the worst point but was ready for new modalities and decided on rife (gb4000 with sr4). on the last round of abx rifed for babs (570) and bart (832) and dropped the babs meds. steady improvement noted. stopped abx and continued to aggressively zap babs/bart for 2weeks. just before adding a Bb freq, the Bb "woke up" or the immune system got a glimpse of the stealth invader and major herx along with two days of 99.6 fever (typ temp is 97.2). may have knocked back the babs/bart to the point it exposed the Bb along with the Bb being near a growth cycle. laid off until this herx ended - or the stalemate between the infections and immune system resumed (five days). feels like a slide backwards but prob more likely that with no abx the infections are not being suppressed. have now begun zapping for Bb (612) along with babs/bart. with rife, good to take baby steps. starting at 1min for Bb and adding in 30 sec intervals.

Girlie
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   Posted 2/11/2017 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi moca, welcome to our community!

i'm sorry you have LD, but glad you found us here.

I won't add anything to this thread - as I'm not doing RIFE, so don't know anything about it.

Because you are new here, it would be a good idea to read through the 'new to Lyme?..Start Here!" thread - it sits at the top of the first page.
Even though you're not 'new' to lyme, there maybe some information in there that is 'new' to you.
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added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
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bluelyme
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   Posted 2/11/2017 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi moka...idk if project is still at it or with us. I sm using rife on a intense schedule with bvt ..the fever thing is a good sign...i have used the mopa attachment with gb and it has put people into remission ..i am trying contact while using plasma rife on the spooky central simultaneously ala og rife. ..rumor is its how gw cured his lyme...have you seem rife thread on lymenet..very informative. ..also the video from anthony holland ted talks shows m.o.r at little over 3min
Keep us posted

moca
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   Posted 2/20/2017 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
thanks bluelyme. when you say "intense", can you provide some detail to your current schedule?

wrt zapping schedule -- I have read competing things wrt how fast bart grows. babs and Bb are slow but some say bart is fast growing but I've read medical publications that say slow. I have been continuing to zap bart daily for 3min (832). babs every 5 days (570) and Bb every 3 to 4 days depending on herx (612). I plan to increase to 5min each before adding new frequencies. Not sure if the daily bart is too much.

also, thanks Girlie.

Lymedefeat
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   Posted 1/23/2018 10:06 AM (GMT -6)   
I am new to this and do not know how to ask specific members a question, This is for Project you stated " Notably essential oils are also quite effective in hitting neuro-lyme from what I've found. I had some severe visual issues (afterimages after moving objects) that I managed to eliminate after 2 years of essential oils. That was a bit shocking as I thought they were due to some kind of permanent damage to the brain."

Can you tell me what essential oils you have used?

I have been fighting Lyme undiagnosed for years, finally finding a doctor last year who was able to diagnose me correctly, unfortunately I have had no luck with any treatments both antibiotic and herbal I have been on and I now have Nuro-Lyme. I am looking more into essential oils, and any help in choosing an effective but reasonably priced rife machine would also be helpful!!!

Girlie
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   Posted 1/23/2018 2:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Lymedefeat - welcome to our community.

To quote someone - you just click on the 'bubble' on the upper right corner of their post. (It has an exclamation mark in it)

Then you can type on the post it created...underneath the quote.


I'm sorry you've not had any improvement with both antibiotics and herbals.
Have you been in treatment with Lyme Literate Dr.'s?

We encourage all new members to read through the information in the thread: "New to Lyme?..Start Here!"
It sits at the top of Page 1...and is full of useful information.
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Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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