Bartonella henselae transmission by blood transfusion in mice. Caution, may cause upset!!!!

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Traveler
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   Posted 3/23/2016 9:22 AM (GMT -6)   
"We isolated Bartonella henselae from 1.2% of 500 studied blood donors and demonstrated that the bacteria remain viable in red blood cell units after 35 days of experimental infection. "

"Blood samples from all 24 mice were negative by molecular tests though half of the tissue samples were positive by nested PCR in the intraperitoneal Bartonella-investigated animals. Tissues from two of the four mice that received blood transfusions from Bartonella-inoculated animals were also nested PCR positives."

"CONCLUSIONS

Transmission of B. henselae by transfusion is possible in mice even when donor animals have undetectable bloodstream infection. The impact of human Bartonella sp. transmission through blood transfusion recipients must be evaluated."

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/trf.13545/abstract;jsessionid=D8B2A8B66CA5D870D71D6638D9992360.f03t03

So we now know that Lyme, Babesia and Bartonella are in the US (at least) blood supply - and people wonder how come there are so many people with these infections? If even 1/2 of the time, or even only 1/3rd of the time that a person gets a blood transfusion for any reason, they get one or more of these infections, how long would it take for the entire US population to be infected?????

Scary thoughts.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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multifacetedme
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   Posted 3/23/2016 9:47 AM (GMT -6)   
great share! It makes perfect sense to me - and my guess is the CDC gets this, and would rather keep it under wraps rather than be forward with the reality of these bacterial infections. I know it is REALLY far out, but also keeps people locked into a cycle of non-support spending money on tests that show nothing and going from Dr. to Dr. keeping the flow of the health non-care system fat with cash. Also, the ramifications of what that would look like for such a big screw up. The same will hold true when the reality, with more science, showing how some of these bacterial infections (if not all) can be transmitted via the way people are intimate with each other.r

Nosila
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   Posted 3/23/2016 10:17 AM (GMT -6)   
There was similar news not too long ago about babesia in the blood supply. I have lyme, bart, and bab, and I hate to think of who I might have infected by donating blood when I was younger. Especially since they told me that because I was negative for EBV (I think?), they saved my blood for premature babies and cancer patients. :,( The good news was that my blood always clotted so fast that they often didn't get a full unit from me!

PeteZa
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   Posted 3/23/2016 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
I am off the organ donor list on my driver's license and I will not give blood. I am hoping my city living sisters that aren't very outdoorsy will come to my rescue if I need a transfusion or my healthy as a horse husband if I can get him into a hospital or clinic. He thinks you only go to those to GET sick, not get well.

Traveler
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   Posted 3/23/2016 4:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Yep, I quit giving blood and took myself off the organ donor's list as well.

Sad that they won't even screen the blood for infectious diseases before giving it people.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)

R3977
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   Posted 4/16/2018 1:48 AM (GMT -6)   
I have so many questions...my son was recently diagnosed with Bartonella henselea. My question is he has been on two rounds of bactrim and is now on a mixture of monodox and rifampin for an entire month...is this normal? He has been referred to an ID Dr and I feel like they aren't catching something. I'm not sure where he got it from neither one of our cats have it. Also we are now in the process of moving due to mold exposure. Help I'm freaking out!!!😱😱😱😱

Girlie
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   Posted 4/16/2018 2:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi R3977 - welcome to our community.


What prompted the Dr. to test him for bartonella - did he have classic bart symptoms: sore feet, rib pain, swollen lymph nodes, scratch marks...etc?

Bartonella can also be passed on via tick bites...along with lyme and other coinfections.
Has your son had a tick bite...and/or a bulls-eye rash...?

Has your son been tested for lyme as well?
It might be a good idea to have him do an Igenex Lab Lyme WB IgM and IgG. You can call Igenex and order the test kit. Those two tests cost $250. You do need a Dr. to sign the lab req.

monodox - i think that is doxycycline. So, yes Rifampin paired with a second antibiotic is a bartonella treatment.

Please ask any questions you have...there's a lot of knowledge and support here. Hang in there!
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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