Best thing to kill systematic, long term Candida?

yup, you can take florastor with other probiotics. I just learned this recently myself! The best time to take probiotics is right before bed, but I can't do that bc every time I try I wake up with an upset stomach. So I just take my probiotics during the day at some point as long as they are 2 hrs away from my other herbs and supplements.

afilya4health- you are right lyme has many almost every symptom-metals have a lot also,

Find a doc that test for metals-my guess is that you have high heavy metals. I have a handful of friends with chronic lyme-they all were extremely high in heavy metals. Which easily may be the reason they got lyme in the first place and why they cant get rid of lyme in the second.

If you g back to the lyme summit talks by various lyme docs you can read a lot about fixing what you can on your body to strengthen it. Several docs mentioned heavy metals-one mentioned root canals ( I believe he said he cures 85% of chronic lyme when they have root canals) several mentioned parasites.

Strengthen the body by treating the above list and more-there are reasons people get chronic lyme and others don't. not just tick

I was told to take 8000mcg Biotin 3x/day, but you may need a different amount. If you know how to muscle test yourself, or know someone who can muscle test you, then you can find the dose that is right for you.

MONOLAURIN.

Chapelle, how much oregano oil per day do you take? My husband chews black seeds - this dude at the health food store told him that in his country Dr.s tell their patients to chew those seeds when an ailment comes up! So interesting, right.

Sorry, forgot to add Undecylenic acid (SF722) to my list. It is a man-made derivative from castor oil and some believe it is more potent than caprylic acid (coconut oil).

Hi Chapelle-

I had beat it down pretty good at one time, but unfortunately I believe it is trying to make a comeback.

I have come to the conclusion that diet is 80% of the battle, if not more. I was hoping I could get away with cheating on the diet a little bit as long as I took enough anti-fungals. Not the case AT ALL , lol.

I was having horrific cystic acne all over my cheeks, chin, jawline, neck, and shoulders. At first I thought it was hormonal, then dairy, then soft water, then food intolerances. I just couldn't get it to stop.

I then slowly began to remove some supplements. I was shocked to discover that the removal of Ashwagandha made an incredible difference. I had been on it about a year and felt the benefits from it, but the acne didn't start until about 5 months ago. I believe it was my body's way of indicating that I no longer needed it. Stopped it cold turkey.

The second thing that actually brought the acne to a complete halt was the total elimination of all grains including corn and rice. Whether it was a direct reaction to grains, or the grains contributing to a yeast problem, I may never know. Don't really care, I am completely grain free if it means it will no longer be scarring my face!

I have started juicing again -mostly veggies and a small amount of fruit. I feel good when I do this but I wonder if this could contribute to yeast as well. I read that juicing removes the fiber content and basically leaves the sugar for consumption. Seems counter-productive?

needhelp4 said...
Chapelle, how much oregano oil per day do you take? My husband chews black seeds - this dude at the health food store told him that in his country Dr.s tell their patients to chew those seeds when an ailment comes up! So interesting, right.

I chew the seeds as well. I start with 2g on day 1, 4g on day 2, and 6g for several more days. This limits my herxing. Very effective on whatever I'm treating, but it tastes bad like oregano.

yup, still have it. I believe i had candida BEFORE lyme, and so my symptoms only got worse after taking antibiotics for 8 months. Although my Dr had me on diflucan and nystatin during treatment, once i stopped the antifungals after I stopped the antibiotics, it came back. My diet didn't help. I am going in for magnetic therapy in 3 weeks (I will explain about that in a new post when the time comes around), which should help. I have been actively treating Candida rigorously only since January, and I haven't been strict enough on my diet, so it will take some more time. But I do know I am getting it under control bc I have no symptoms at the moment.

Pirouette said...
astroman -

I agree with your entire post--whole heartedly. Many good points.

Regarding the previous mention of heavy metals and your comment... I had MANY amalgams in my teeth - in all of my back 8 teeth upper/lowers. I had all of them removed except for those in 2 teeth about 4 yrs ago and not by a "bio" dentist (I wasn't aware of the issues at the time) and I think I suffered some leeching into tissues despite repeated negative hvy mtls testing.

When I tried to detox using chlorella--I nearly killed myself. I learned quickly that if you don't know what you're doing, you are likely to leach mtls out of tissues, fail to detox them efficiently and they will be reabsorbed. So now I'm pretty sure that has contributed to my y/f challenges but I'm not in a healthy enough state for mtls detox... not yet anyway.

-p

I found this old post while looking for a specific post on d-limonene. Gosh! There is so much amazing info in this post, and it's got me thinking about Candida and heavy metals.

So far, I've had no antibodies to Candida and no signs of it, as is thrush or vaginal yeast infections, etc. I have never been on long term abx, only short term many times over 48 years. Two 7 day Rx in the past 2 years a year apart. Been on high dose probiotics for 2.5 years with no noticeable effects good or bad.

Clues to Possible Candida:
- one Sacchromyces boulardii capsule caused nausea and dizzyness
- have craved sweets for past 3 years when I never had before
- two months ago after 1 month of Candicid Forte, I had diarrhea and vomiting and seaweed looking stuff came out; 4 days later had diarrhea again and got relief from IBS-C and moved bowels without magnesium for 1st time in 2.5 years; ate what I wanted for 2 weeks and abdominal pain started back and had to get back on magnesium; got back on Candicid Forte
- have had increased joint pain/stiffness for weeks
- cannot seem to stick to a clean diet
- have 14 amalgams that are scheduled to be replaced on 12 June and 14 July

I've been on Pectasol-C for over a year. I'm wondering if it is pulling metals out of tissues or joints and could also be causing a Candida issue as a result.

I finished one bottle of d-limonene taken daily. Been out a couple of days and have reordered. Can't say for sure if it helped anything specific. However. in the last couple days since I ran out, I've had feelings like hot flashes and had sweating. Also woke up with burning, itchy palms night before last. Not sure what that is. Don't remember having that symptom before.

There's another thread (/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3586141) where Georgia Hunter said this:

Georgia Hunter said...

Tillybear said...
Just wanted to update this thread with my experience thus far on the D-Limonine: I can say I'm definitely sleeping much better. All through the night unless nature calls. Hot flashes are reduced 90% as well if that's related somehow. But either way, my sleep pattern was miserable before this product and nothing else has changed so credit to the D-limonene! Thank you for posting this thread, astroman. I did order the Jarrow brand fwiw.

To me, this would indicate that you had an elevation in intraluminal aluminum and the D-Limonene helped eliminate it. I would extrapolate that farther and say a bacteria was sequestering the aluminum and H pylori is often the culprit.

Hot flashes can occur from the exothermic reaction of nitrogen breakdown. Too much nitrogen breakdown can lead to higher temperatures than normal. High nitrogen ingestion, which most often comes in the form of animal protein, will increase bacteria like Bilophilia which decrease good yeasts like Saccharomyces. A balance must be maintained between good yeasts and the other bacteria present because the yeasts increase the fermentation of carbohydrates. This not only helps to eliminate carbohydrates but also decreases sulfite levels in the body by converting them to sulfides. Flatulence is hydrogen sulfide gas and comes from the action of the yeasts. Too many sulfites kill the yeasts and they need to be replenished. My belief is that people with Lyme have a decrease in good yeasts from a combination of too many sulfites and too many antibiotics. Antibiotics lead to an increase in Candida and other unwanted yeasts which overgrow the beneficial yeasts. Florastor is a good option to replenish the good yeasts.

www.nature.com/nature/journal/v505/n7484/abs/nature12820.html

www.cell.com/trends/biotechnology/abstract/S0167-7799%2815%2900139-0?_returnURL=http%3A%2F%2Flinkinghub.elsevier.com%2Fretrieve%2Fpii%2FS0167779915001390%3Fshowall%3Dtrue

Now that I've said all this, I don't remember what I wanted ti ask.

Any comments on what I said in relation to Candida, heavy metals, hot flashes, joint pain, or burning itchy palms?

Post Edited (WalkingbyFaith) : 6/4/2018 4:41:42 PM (GMT-6)

1000Daisies said...
Sorry to sound like a broken record on this, but I did not have any positive tests for candida. Therefore, the doctors overlooked a yeast issue for me.
Turns out I still had a systemic chronic yeast infection - but a non-candida strain (saccharomyces cerevisiae). Took me a LONG time to figure that out and finally get them to test (and confirm) my suspicions!

I always mention this on yeast/candida threads that people focus on candida. But there are non-candida strains that are very much overlooked and missed by doctors. Just because a person is negative for candida, it doesn't rule out a yeast problem...

Also, be careful on s. boulardii - as that can actually cause or make a yeast infection worse depending on the strain. S. boulardii is being over used nowadays without the proper warning of taking it (unfortunately). It has it's time and place, but it's not nearly as safe as it's being promoted.

Thanks, 1000Daisies. I remember. Good that you point this out. In my case, I suspect the S. Boulardii killed Candida and the toxic reaction I had was either to Candida die-off or to heavy metals disbursed due to Candida dying.

"I've been on Pectasol-C for over a year. I'm wondering if it is pulling metals out of tissues or joints and could also be causing a Candida issue as a result."

You could also be pulling the mercury from your amalgams - (especially if some aren't stable) and distributing into your system.


I have some amalgams, too...and I just don't know if I should be taking the binders because of that.

I don't have 14...but 6 is still plenty.

I did have one removed/replace that had chipped last year...as well as a smaller one next to that tooth.
I took activated charcoal prior (tried to coat my throat) and then for several days after...to absorb what was in my GI tract.
Regular dentist did the work...I can't afford to go to the Biological Dentist. It would mean traveling and three separate appointments.....