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Hey, what do you guys think about back pain as a herx?

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Tillybear
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Posted 4/19/2016 6:14 PM (GMT -7)
Looking for opinions or experience.

I have a history of a lower back disk issue. The pain of it is well known to me.

So, when I started the artemisinin the pain all.of.a.sudden. in my lower back was part of the reason that I went to the ER for the first time in my lyme career.

I took a week off the art. but the LBP persisted. I restarted the art last week Sunday and my LBP is still hanging on. It does NOT feel like my usual pain but my Chiro says it's the disk.

Do you guys think herxing can cause this pain or can it cause a disk to pop? I've heard the germs like to hang out in injured tissue and that makes me wonder if the art. is killing the bugs in my lower back? Or is this a crazy theory? It's just such a different sensation for me and it isn't resolving like it does every other time. Thanks for any thoughts or input.
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Razzle
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Posted 4/19/2016 7:39 PM (GMT -7)
Yes, it is possible this is a herx, but it may not be either. One way to possibly tell if it is a herx or not is to try adding or increasing your detox protocol. Sometimes, the toxins from die-off are "stuck" in place and need some encouragement to leave the body...
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CD3764
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Posted 4/19/2016 8:19 PM (GMT -7)
Ditto Razzle

And, sorry you're dealing with this, Tillybear! Hope you get some relief!
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Girlie
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Posted 4/19/2016 9:03 PM (GMT -7)
My first herx ever was on Day 4 of doxycycline - and it was back pain..not lower though, but thoracic.

It went on for 12 days until I posted on the forum.. and I think it was Traveler who said to detox more and back off on the antibiotics .
I did and the pain lessened greatly.

I'm hoping yours is a herx, too.
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nberg
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Posted 4/19/2016 9:19 PM (GMT -7)
I also have lower back pain. It did not feel like my "normal" back pain though and after talking to my llmd as I also have gotten lumps in my back, we have decided as a working theory for now that it is indeed from the Lyme and as a die off reaction the lymph nodes in the back were swelling. He also thinks it is likely that my back issues including my degenerative disc disease is due to the Lyme's as well. As I am 33 hears old and the disc issues started after my assumed infection date of 2009. He put it this way 33 years old and degenerative disease with out a reason? Not likely. I tend to agree it is the Lyme's that caused it therefore when bacteria stated dying it was going to affect my back and did it ever.

Nick
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needhelp4
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Posted 4/20/2016 12:58 PM (GMT -7)
OMGoodness, TBear - I just started getting back spasms two days ago! I would sit down and BAMO! Then it happened again while I was taking a shower - WTHeck?! Everyday, without fail, is something new.
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Tillybear
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Posted 4/20/2016 1:06 PM (GMT -7)
Yes, this is an odd thing. Really starting to give credence to the theory that the bugs colonize damaged tissue. That would help explain how different people have different issues but the presentations of the specific areas seem very similar.

Laying on a heating pad right now!
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