Trav - that is so cute about
your mom. I love that. Kudos to her!
You posted a lot of stuff I want to ask questions about
or respond to! So bear with me:
In case u didn't hear, google is changing its online health search (hmmm).
Huh? What do you mean. Does this have anything to do with the next thing you wrote about
the sites/posts your search revealed? I'm confused...
I just did a casual LD search & a LD description came up with $200k estimates with the statement that most recover with abx treatment.
Do you mean 200k new cases? or $200k spent?
On this site, the propaganda that borrelia might withstand abx...This, along with the current dogma, parroting of abx resistance, which ultimately disallows those who may want to have abx treatment & those who DO benefit from abx.
Before all the non abx folk jump on that, know that freedom of choice is important, as this is not a one size fits all illness. And that once again the misinformation continues, with double talk of LD - the misinformation effects everyone!
I just want to directly respond to a couple of misunderstandings that I know I had and have been repeated here about
abx and resistance. I've been doing a lot of digging for info lately and have found some good info I want to share.
There are several reasons why abx treatment doesn't work--I'll summarize here because I think people get these confused and it's natural to generalize a "takeaway" that isn't necessarily accurate:
- Generally, 4 wks of abx, even right after initial infection, is often not enough to significantly kill off the pathogen--the doses aren't high enough and/or the prophylaxis isn't long enough.
- Many people don't get treated right after being infected so by the time people start tx the spirochete has had a chance to infiltrate the whole body, making the 4-wk protocol even less effective--just too much to kill
- Studies have shown that components of the Bb microbe can "turn off" mechanisms of the immune system so that it doesn't recognize the Bb as an invader and/or won't function to target it.
- Studies have shown that when threatened (by antimicrobials or the immune system) the Bb spirochete leaves the blood stream and burrows into tissues, organs so that neither antimicrobials (and I believe this includes herbal remedies) nor the host's immune system can reach them.
- Some LLMDs like to pulse abx to trick the spirochete into coming out to play and then zapping them again--this has been proved to be more successful than continuous levels of abx (although I've heard that herbal remedies don't need to be pulsed, which would suggest that they have a different impact than pharmaceuticals on the spirochete's behavior but I haven't found any evidence of that yet...still looking--this would be important).
- Also, when threatened (by abx or immune system) spirochetes can morph into cyst or ball form, which can hide it.
- Research showed persister cells (or L-form) of Bb has no cell wall, which render some abx (that are designed to attack the cell wall) but not all, ineffective.
- Some people have Bb in the brain. The immune system doesn't produce antibodies in the brain. This is the reason to use a an antimicrobial that crosses the blood-brain barrier.
- I'm also going to throw into this conversation what we all know--a protocol of only antimicrobials won't heal us--regardless if they are pharma or herbal. We need a very comprehensive diagnosis that includes other burdens on our immune system, a comprehensive detox program, and support of a healthy immune system, and healing and/or repair of many other body systems that are collateral damage from the infections.
The statements above are geared toward the question, "Why don't pharmaceutical antibiotics always work?" Very few of the studies on abx protocols studied the actual protocols
used successfully by LLMDs--they picked random abx and random dosing and random protocols... I've come across a couple of statistics that insist the IDSA's own 28-day max abx protocols has never even been studied and that only 1 of 7 of the IDSA's treatment protocols were based on imperial data/research... I'm sure this is of no surprise to you.
MUCH more needs to be investigated regarding herbals. I just had a conversation w/ Traveler about
this--there are so few studies done on herbals, for obvious reasons. But I think that's a missing piece of the statements above--is the issue pharmaceutical abx? Or is the issue the antimicrobial treatments in general that need to be supplemented in "x, y, or z" ways?
Below, from this site (I, also, do not want to link) that admits LD can be a devastating illness, yet, like a bandaid on cancer, they offer their wonderful non-healing services:
I didn't capture everything you shared from that site... but I guess I'm missing your point. Most of that info is, in fact, relevant. So are you referencing their healing protocols that weren't included in that excerpt that you think are inadequate?
Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 6/22/2016 1:18:29 PM (GMT-6)