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crispysonofa
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Posted 6/3/2016 6:44 PM (GMT 0)
I stumbled up some information that unrefined sea salt and vitamin c in large doses can cure this disease. I'm wondering if anyone here has experience with it? It sounds too good to be true but I do believe that there is a natural cure for every ailment but because there is no profit to be made then it is not well known. Thoughts?
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PeteZa
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Posted 6/3/2016 12:17 PM (GMT -7)
Please do this "new salt protocol" only on the advice and care of a professional.

Excessive salt can be extremely hard on your kidneys.

If you do try this, please let us know how you do. I am curious.
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crispysonofa
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Posted 6/3/2016 12:27 PM (GMT -7)
http://www.stopthelymelies.com/stll-blog/1

https://lymehandbook.com/index/treatments/590-vitamin-c-sea-salt/


I am doing some research and am considering it. It makes sense if you read about it although the only fear I have is kidney stones. I am a male and I've heard that is worse pain than giving birth. With a lot of water this can be avoided but they are taking some huge doses of salt. I agree it should he taken with extreme care.

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Posted 6/3/2016 8:21 PM (GMT 0)
I wouldn't take large doses of salt.....


Please be careful -
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Posted 6/3/2016 1:37 PM (GMT -7)
Use good quality pink Himalaya seal salt, its full of essential trace minerals, but also watch your BP. Good prices at www.saltworks.com. I bought a good size bulk bag and selected a very fine grade that dissolved better than more course sea salt.

I tried it for a few month before getting to my LLMD. Ramp up slowly and it also helps with other parasites.
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Posted 6/3/2016 2:00 PM (GMT -7)
Salt and C would not be my first choice of treatment. If I had extremely limited financial resources, then maybe I would give it a try. Yes, be sure to monitor blood pressure and kidneys. In my opinion, its probably safer than some things that are prescribed by a doctor. That observation doesn't mean that its safe.

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crispysonofa
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Posted 6/3/2016 2:31 PM (GMT -7)
I agree it is something that would need to be monitored closely. I found this article interesting.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/its-time-to-end-the-war-on-salt/

It seems that as a culture we have been eating less and less salt daily for its supposed correlation with high blood pressure. Some people will beg to differ, as every treatment will have different effects on everyone. The early colonies ate a lot of cured meats and the primary way of curing was salt. I don’t have any research to back this up but I believe Native Americans would dry and cure meats using salt as well. In those times a person would naturally eat much more salt based on the foods available. I'm not totally 'buying it' but it does have some interesting research to back the theory. We all know what happens to a slug when one puts salt on it.

Edit: http://www.westonaprice.org/health-topics/abcs-of-nutrition/salt-and-our-health/

another interesting article

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Posted 6/3/2016 2:48 PM (GMT -7)
Crispy- I actually agree with everything that you said. This salt phobia that has emerged in recent time is at least partially a myth as far as I am concerned. That is not to say that some people don't have a sensitivity to too much salt. I myself have recently and intentionally increased my daily intake of Himalayan Salt. The result is that my BP is now lower than it has been in recent years. Figure that one out!

Dr. Mercola had a very good article about the salt controversy that I will try to find within the next few days.

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Posted 6/3/2016 2:55 PM (GMT -7)
I tried this, but I don't think I did it right. The website I came across said to use something like 4 grams of vitamin C and 3 grams of salt, and neither of those amounts seemed like a lot to me.

I used my herb scale to measure them out.

4 grams of C is like a 1/4 tsp, if that, and I feel like I eat more than 3 grams of salt per meal. I like salt. I try to use the Himalayan or Celtic sea salt, but it is expensive for the amount, and a pain with the grinder (all they sell in the stores around here, no zip baggies). Plus, I always forget to order bags online when I purchase my other meds. I know it's not so good, 'cause no iodine or minerals, but I use canning salt the rest of the time. lol

Anyway, maybe it was a typo and they meant 30/40 grams?
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Posted 6/3/2016 3:09 PM (GMT -7)
The articles that I read said to work your way up to about 1 gram of salt per 10lbs of body weight meaning if you were 160lbs then 16 grams of salt per day would be the optimal dose. On average a full teaspoon of salt is almost 6 grams. That is a lot of salt. If you eat that much salt then more power to you but an average American is told to eat about 1.5 grams of salt each day. I need to do more research on the vitamin C aspect but they urge you to split your doses up 3 to 4 times a day. I love salt too and there is a direct correlation with the average life span and populations that eat more salt. It might turn the old saying around that you get farther with sugar than with salt!
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Posted 6/3/2016 3:09 PM (GMT -7)
NQA - 4 grams (4000 mg) of Vitamin C is not a large amount.

I regularly take 2,000 mg daily...and if I were to feel a cold coming on, I would up that to 8-10 grams daily.
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Posted 6/3/2016 3:13 PM (GMT -7)
The 4/3 grams of C and salt was meant to be taken 3 - 4 times a day, so.. 16 and 12 grams, which about lines up with my weight. Still doesn't seem like a lot.

I guess I probably eat more than I should though, yeah. It doesn't really seem like it though. It's not overpowering on the food or anything like that. I know what too much salt tastes like. Food ruined.

1.5 grams seems like nothing for the whole day.

Yeah, I don't get what the heck the people were thinking, Girlie. lol

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Girlie
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Posted 6/3/2016 3:23 PM (GMT -7)
oh - okay that's 3-4 X a day. 12/16 grams makes more sense.

I read that you should increase to bowel tolerance...when you get diarrhea, then just back off a bit.

(That's just general information - not particularly for the Vit.C and Salt protocol)
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Posted 6/3/2016 3:39 PM (GMT -7)
It supposedly works fast and you can feel things leaving your body, the herx is pretty uncomfortable. I am looking up prices of vitamin C, some sites state that the sodium chloride is the effective ingredient so I'm not disagreeing with the natural Himalayan salt aspect just stating what I've read. Some sites say that the iodine in regular table salt is actually beneficial in this process as well. I also stumbled upon info that the early treatment for syphilis were salt pills. We know the similarity between these two diseases so I find that also compelling in this treatment.
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NotQuiteAntonio
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Posted 6/3/2016 4:01 PM (GMT -7)
Yeah, I might try it again, just for a bit to see, or at least the higher doses of vitamin C.

Speaking of the bowel tolerance, it made me poop like 10 minutes later. I do not think it was a coincidence either. I'd been going through one of my constipation phases.

*shrugs*
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Posted 6/3/2016 4:13 PM (GMT -7)
I could only tolerate 1,000 mg of Vitamin C.
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Posted 6/3/2016 4:29 PM (GMT -7)
My doc said that the way to determine your body's specific tolerance for Vitamin C is to go up and up and when you do get loose stools, back off and that is your body's desired amount of ingestion of vitamin C.
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Posted 6/3/2016 4:38 PM (GMT -7)
It will help with pots and blood pressure but it is not curative ..also has great effect on parasites as it drys em up and bit c to bowel expells them ...i agree with heathers dad but if is a good cheap way to start parasite cleanse
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Posted 6/3/2016 5:59 PM (GMT -7)

PeteZa said...
My doc said that the way to determine your body's specific tolerance for Vitamin C is to go up and up and when you do get loose stools, back off and that is your body's desired amount of ingestion of vitamin C.

My stomach couldn't take anymore. Also I read (afterwards) in the Blood Type Diet that certain blood types could not tolerate high mg doses of Vitamin C and A. Well, that's me 😊.
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Posted 6/4/2016 6:40 AM (GMT -7)
Blue what makes you say its not curative? This is a lot of bolt salt and vitC, what makes me feel like it would work is salt is needed everywhere in the body some places more than others but if you saturate your body with salt it will literally be coming out of your pores. Sounds inhospitable to me.
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Posted 6/5/2016 12:38 AM (GMT -7)
You must have a balanve of sodium potassium in your plasma ...kidneys will regulate...i been injecting saline and still cbc says it is 1 pt from 6 month ago...lymed in 2010 on other forum has notice ketes stop with saline solution but intracellular? ...and round body...?
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Posted 6/6/2016 2:50 AM (GMT -7)
This site claims that they have cured Lyme with salt and vit c. http://www.lymephotos.com/
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crispysonofa
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Posted 6/6/2016 4:49 PM (GMT -7)
I saw that website and there is also a book on amazon that the reviews show people who have cured themselves. I want to retract my previous statement saying that early treatment for syphilis was with salt, upon further research I found it was salts of MERCURY. Well I wouldn't want any type of mercury in my body so that statement is crap. I am still researching into this and would love if someone who has experience with this working or not working to chime in. It seems plausible but that doesn't mean I want to just start this without some more backing. If what I read is correct it does sound like it could get intracellular infections based on osmosis, the cell of the bacteria couldn't lose enough water for the salt on the outside in effect killing itself in the process. I am really tired today I just want this to stop.
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