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1000Daisies
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   Posted 10/6/2016 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Anybody have a home air purifier? What are your recommendations?
(We use to have one, but I failed to replace it. I'm starting to look into getting one again!)
Thanks!
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, improved now but not fully well
Kid#2: Very very sick now despite being treated for years
Kid#3: Was doing very well (ironically had the least and shortest treatment) - but is starting to relapse
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, and yeast issues

caramba
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   Posted 10/6/2016 8:08 PM (GMT -6)   
how big is the house? does it have central air?

If you have central air, you can put in better filtering media in it, with a higher MERV value.
(www.mechreps.com/PDF/Merv_Rating_Chart.pdf ) but to a point. above 10-11 the filter will slow down the flow of air, which impacts how efficient the A/C runs, and the filters have to be changed more often.

for room filtering, I just use a round honewell type filter (HEPA)
/www.amazon.com/Honeywell-50250-S-True-HEPA-Purifier/dp/B00007E7RY/ref=sr_1_2?s=home-garden&ie=UTF8&qid=1475802390&sr=1-2&keywords=honeywell+air+purifier

50150 is for up to 225 sq ft room
50250 is for up to 390 sq ft room

I'd suggest a decent MERV filter in the HVAC system and a purifier in the main room.

Caramba

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1000Daisies
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   Posted 10/6/2016 9:11 PM (GMT -6)   


Funny... I had this one previously! :)
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, improved now but not fully well
Kid#2: Very very sick now despite being treated for years
Kid#3: Was doing very well (ironically had the least and shortest treatment) - but is starting to relapse
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, and yeast issues

Sissy63
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   Posted 10/6/2016 9:13 PM (GMT -6)   
I run three almost non-stop. We are on a crawl space which is very dry and I still am pulling a lot of yucky stuff out of the air.

1000Daisies
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That one looks interesting. Curious, what made you get that one?
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, improved now but not fully well
Kid#2: Very very sick now despite being treated for years
Kid#3: Was doing very well (ironically had the least and shortest treatment) - but is starting to relapse
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, and yeast issues

artermix
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   Posted 10/6/2016 10:17 PM (GMT -6)   
do you have carpets in the house and draperies?
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August: begins basic Buhner protocol.
September: Basic Buhner protocol + specific herbs

k07
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   Posted 10/7/2016 5:31 AM (GMT -6)   
1000Daisies said...



That one looks interesting. Curious, what made you get that one?


I thought the addition of UV light (if it works) was good for killing mold/bacteria. Had decent reviews and found another article reviewing air purifiers and this was on the list. It didn't break the bank and slim so i can move it easy.

caramba
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   Posted 10/7/2016 10:07 AM (GMT -6)   
a UV light produces ozone, which kills bacteria. no as effective on mold.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 10/7/2016 10:29 AM (GMT -6)   
artermix said...
do you have carpets in the house and draperies?


Yes, on carpets, but working on getting rid of as much as I can as time goes on (replacing with tile/hardwood).
Mostly no on curtains/drapes... few valances though.
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, improved now but not fully well
Kid#2: Very very sick now despite being treated for years
Kid#3: Was doing very well (ironically had the least and shortest treatment) - but is starting to relapse
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, and yeast issues

artermix
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   Posted 10/7/2016 11:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Yes if you eliminate all carpets and window treatments...also sofas leather instead of cloth....remove all plush toys stuffed toys from kids toy chest...Do not ever use a broom in the house either. Vacuum only. So that alone takes care of over 50% of bacteria embedded in your house including molds as some of these materials can absorb mold.
I would suggest you hardwood or tiles since they have less formaldyade and chemical and are natural product.

If you repaint with Kiltz and power wash basement with clorox and repaint walls as well with outdoor paint....that is mold proof.
Contracted lyme in 2015.
First bite untreated. Second bite treated according to CDC guidelines and within 10 hrs from bite.
April: ELISA & WB positive (2 bands)
May & June: Oreganol, Eulueothero, Magnesium and some cats claw.
July: Amoxicillin 4000 mg a day for 30 days in July 1 ended in Aug 1.
August: begins basic Buhner protocol.
September: Basic Buhner protocol + specific herbs

k07
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   Posted 10/7/2016 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
caramba said...
a UV light produces ozone, which kills bacteria. no as effective on mold.


This isn't good then - I think we don't want it to emit ozone, right? The one good thing is the UV light can be turned on or off so I will just leave it off so that it functions as hepa filter only.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 10/7/2016 1:35 PM (GMT -6)   
I initially was concerned (years ago) about the toxicity of ozone from air purifiers.
However, over the years, I've read conflicting information about this, and I really just wasn't sure.

Recently, this is what I've come to understand. BUT SOMEBODY - PLEASE CLARIFY AND SHARE YOUR THOUGHTS!
Ozone just contains an extra oxygen. It seems to be blamed on poor air quality. But I'm not sure that's justified. Apparently, ozone attaches itself to pollutants. So, if there is more pollutants, then there is more ozone. But ozone gets the bad wrap, whereas it really should be the pollutants instead.
But there are many, many negative sites about how bad ozone is in air purifies. I am very on the fence on this! I haven't felt fully comfortable with it quite yet!
I read a great explanation of this once on the internet, but I didn't bookmark it and can't find it now!
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, improved now but not fully well
Kid#2: Very very sick now despite being treated for years
Kid#3: Was doing very well (ironically had the least and shortest treatment) - but is starting to relapse
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, and yeast issues

Post Edited (1000Daisies) : 10/7/2016 1:04:02 PM (GMT-6)


k07
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   Posted 10/7/2016 2:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Why can't anything be easy! It takes so much energy to research all these things and I seem to always buy the wrong thing! Ugh. Right now I'm spending hours researching a darn mattress.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 10/7/2016 2:17 PM (GMT -6)   
k07 said...
Why can't anything be easy! It takes so much energy to research all these things and I seem to always buy the wrong thing! Ugh. Right now I'm spending hours researching a darn mattress.


I see you suffer from "analysis paralysis". I have the same condition. : |
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, improved now but not fully well
Kid#2: Very very sick now despite being treated for years
Kid#3: Was doing very well (ironically had the least and shortest treatment) - but is starting to relapse
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, and yeast issues

1000Daisies
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   Posted 10/11/2016 9:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Not trying to be dense, but some people do UVLrx and ozone therapy for lyme. So, why is ozone in air purifiers more of a concern than UVLrx and ozone therapies?
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, improved now but not fully well
Kid#2: Very sick now despite being treated for years, bad year
Kid#3: Was doing very well (ironically had the least and shortest treatment) - but has relapsed
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, heart, and yeast issues

k07
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   Posted 10/11/2016 11:04 AM (GMT -6)   
Also, does anyone know if I don't turn the UV light portion on, will it still emit ozone?

Daisies - Let me know which air purifier you settle on. I need to buy 1 more and I'm nervous about buying another germguardian.

Krimpet 🍔
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   Posted 10/11/2016 11:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Anthony Rod said...
Two things...

Firstly if you have a large area to cover, Austin air purifiers seem to decontaminate the largest amount of space. The Junior units usually are good for up to 700 square feet. The standard units do up to 1500 square feet. The advertise to decontaminate to the level of a hospital clean room.

The Honeywell will be ok if you have a smaller area. But if it is larger than a medium sized room I don't think it will be great. As well I have heard they can be noisy on higher settings.

I am looking into this myself as I have constant sinusitis. It is a real pain!

Secondly, about the ozone. This is a real problem with SOME air purifiers! Generally, the cheaper models can use an ionization process that can be harmful for the lungs by producing excess ozone. Some ionizers are designed so they do not produce more ozone than is naturally occurring in the atmosphere. So you just have to check. Personally I would not have an air purifier in my home that produces excess ozone.

Check out this article by the EPA about the health problems related to this.

https://www.epa.gov/indoor-air-quality-iaq/ozone-generators-are-sold-air-cleaners


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1000Daisies
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   Posted 2/6/2017 11:33 AM (GMT -6)   
I am bumping this. Would love more opinions on what people are using for air purifiers?

I am still confused why injecting ozone can be beneficial but an ozone air purifier is bad?
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but much better lately!
Kid#2: Very sick now despite being treated for years, very bad year
Kid#3: Doing great, minor relapse, but great again (ironically had least and shortest treatment)!
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids) - not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue, kidney, heart, and yeast issues

mm57553
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I just ordered one of these from Amazon last week. Should arrive today. Glad to hear you are happy with it.

k07
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   Posted 2/6/2017 1:55 PM (GMT -6)   
I still need to buy a 3rd air purifier but not sure about the ozone either. Maybe I will spend some time tomorrow researching.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 4/30/2018 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
k07 said...
I still need to buy a 3rd air purifier but not sure about the ozone either. Maybe I will spend some time tomorrow researching.


k07 - if you happen to see this, what did you decide????
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 4/30/2018 4:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I bought an IQ Air Healthpro Plus last August. No ozone or laser in it. I've had no problems with it. about time to change the filter. It's supposed to be top of the line air purifier. If you buy, get directly from IQ Air or you won't have a warranty. Customer service was very good when I called and asked questions before buying.

If price is a deciding factor, make sure you factor in the cost of filter replacement for 1-3 years. Some less expensive units have pricier filters that have to be replaced more frequently or multiple filters with differing life spans (more to remember and keep up with for those with cognitive problems).

1000Daisies
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   Posted 4/30/2018 4:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey WBF! I actually saw that you mentioned this on another thread (when I searched for other air purifier threads). That definitely sounds like an amazing purifier. But yikes on the price - can't afford that right now. sad Glad it's working for you though!
BTW, have you started any of those antivirals this week??? Thinking of you!! smile

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   Posted 4/30/2018 4:46 PM (GMT -6)   
1000Daisies said...
Hey WBF! I actually saw that you mentioned this on another thread (when I searched for other air purifier threads). That definitely sounds like an amazing purifier. But yikes on the price - can't afford that right now. sad Glad it's working for you though!
BTW, have you started any of those antivirals this week??? Thinking of you!! smile


Not yet. I got the monolaurin. It's waiting for me tongue I had a Neuroquant MRI today. Tomorrow I go to see a Soc Sec psychologist for a mental evaluation. That should be a hoot. Wednesday I gi back to the biological dentist to discuss the results of my compatibility test and hopefully get scheduled to replace the amalgams.

I'm waiting until after all that is over to start anything new. Can't afford to be herxing again til this is over.
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