Anyone using modified citrus pectin for detox?

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Krimpet 🍔
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   Posted 10/19/2016 3:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Interested in this product as I've been reading really good things and I'm always on the lookout for things that are "gentle" but effective for detoxing. I would like to go with the powder form so I can titrate as necessary.

Can anyone share their experience? When you take it? How much? Has it been effective or not?

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   Posted 10/19/2016 3:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I've been taking D-limonene instead and thank astroman for sharing about it here:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3586141

I take 1000mg with dinner along with the other supplements that I take at that time. It's part of my daily detoxing protocol and I can't give any specific credit to it - I think my various detoxing methods provide a cumulative effect.
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   Posted 10/19/2016 3:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes - but I think you already know I do! Mostly helps me sleep. I think it must have to do with binding biotoxins that cause insomnia. I usually only take 4 capsules because I didn't feel a major difference with 6 (recommended dose). I take it at 3 pm away from everything. I would personally recommend the capsules over the powder. I ran out of capsules and I'm using Thorne powder and it's a pain in the butt.

It is also helpful with chelating some heavy metals.

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   Posted 10/19/2016 5:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I just ordered some ...for ammonia and arsnic

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   Posted 10/19/2016 5:13 PM (GMT -6)   
k07 said...
Yes - but I think you already know I do! Mostly helps me sleep. I think it must have to do with binding biotoxins that cause insomnia. I usually only take 4 capsules because I didn't feel a major difference with 6 (recommended dose). I take it at 3 pm away from everything. I would personally recommend the capsules over the powder. I ran out of capsules and I'm using Thorne powder and it's a pain in the butt.

It is also helpful with chelating some heavy metals.


Thanks. I looked at the Thorne brand because I love that brand. I also take their powder amino acids. So you prefer capsules because of the ease of use.

Since it helps you sleep is there a reason why you take it at 3pm as opposed to later in the evening.
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   Posted 10/19/2016 5:15 PM (GMT -6)   
bluelyme said...
I just ordered some ...for ammonia and arsnic


You'll have to let me know how that goes. I'm going to ask my doctor about it tomorrow just to get his perspective.

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   Posted 10/19/2016 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
cd3764 said...
I've been taking D-limonene instead and thank astroman for sharing about it here:

www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3586141

I take 1000mg with dinner along with the other supplements that I take at that time. It's part of my daily detoxing protocol and I can't give any specific credit to it - I think my various detoxing methods provide a cumulative effect.



Hmmmm. I'd be real interested if there is more reason to take one over the other.
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   Posted 10/19/2016 5:54 PM (GMT -6)   
3 pm is only time i can fit. If you buy the powder you have to mix with warm water but it doesn't dissolve well. I may fill capsules tomorrow.

Not sure if you have seen the video link below, but I found it helpful (dr. M.R). I began taking MCP because I have the hla gene for lyme disease identified by Shoemaker.

www.treatlyme.net/treat-lyme-book/lyme-and-mold-toxins-a-lyme-byte/

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   Posted 10/19/2016 5:56 PM (GMT -6)   
I just ordered some ...for ammonia and arsnic

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   Posted 10/19/2016 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
bluelyme said...
I just ordered some ...for ammonia and arsnic


My Arsenic value has not changed on metal test in last year. It's pretty low though - 7.5 ug/g. It says <80 is reference.

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   Posted 10/19/2016 9:41 PM (GMT -6)   
Hmmm the article i read lied then ...oh well...what works for arsnic

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   Posted 10/19/2016 10:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm confused.

Your taking 6 tablets of what? Sounds like a lot. I though MCP was a powder?

The D-Limonine by Jarrow is a 1000mg gel tab. I take one a day (night). Its $10 for two months (60 count).

Discovered it in '08.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 5:48 AM (GMT -6)   
I didn't realize that D-limonene helped with detox. I thought it was used primarily for gerd and reflux issues. Does it actually work like a binder where it should be taken away from herbs and meds?

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   Posted 10/20/2016 7:35 AM (GMT -6)   
D-limonene is (a digestive organ (all) detox) very similar to citrus pectin. Its does a "bazillion" other things too. More than I can quikly post here.

Please look at / read the past links in this thread on D-lim , CD linked to my old link.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 7:58 AM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
I'm confused.

Your taking 6 tablets of what? Sounds like a lot. I though MCP was a powder?

The D-Limonine by Jarrow is a 1000mg gel tab. I take one a day (night). Its $10 for two months (60 count).

Discovered it in '08.


No, it comes as capsule or powder. Capsules are much easier since it doesn't dissolve well. Watch the video from Dr. M.R. - you can do 6 capsules (equal to probably a scoop), 2-3x a day. I only do 4 caps and feel no difference between that and 6.

Pecta-Sol is highly regarded too. It comes as capsule or powder. I've been sticking with the NOW brand since it is slightly cheaper and works for me. The Thorne powder does the job, just too much effort and clumpy.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 8:04 AM (GMT -6)   
bluelyme said...
Hmmm the article i read lied then ...oh well...what works for arsnic


I couldn't say that for sure...Maybe I am just getting constant exposure from something. But you'd think it would budge. Try it anyway - maybe I'm not taking enough of it.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 8:13 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm just noticing that unless you have a subscription to treatlyme.net you can't watch the video. Sorry about that. He basically talks about cholestyramine and MCP for the 25% of people with HLA gene. Often instead of testing for it he just assumes you have it. He also says lots of apples and oatmeal can be used as food instead of MCP. His dosage suggestion is 1 scoop (Thorne), 3x a day.

MCP is not as strong as cholestyramine but you do not get the constipation effects. I've heard of some people starting with the MCP and moving on to cholestyramine.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 8:18 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been using this since July and I think that it has had a major impact on my health and gotten me to where I am today ~ 95%.. I take 3-4 pills of MCP 2x a day. It has eliminated my herxes, which I suspect are being caused not by an active infection, but by stored toxins being released by my body now that I have room to process them. Anyway, that's the theory.

I have purchase the Now brand and also Pecta-Sol C. I can't tell the difference.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 8:34 AM (GMT -6)   
Ko7 - MCP and d-lmonene are essentialy very close, almost the same.

However you are taking a lot - regardless of what this Dr says. Keep in mind if you take RX.

***What is the MG per day? Or what mg does the tablet mcp come in?***

This stuff (all types) can interfere with Rx medication- anthing that goes thru the liver- this can change the "liver processing of RX" so to speak.


I'm satisfied with 1000mg a day of d-limonene gel capsules, but its offered only by 4 companies. Have no reason to change. Any more and my thyroid level can possibly change. T4 changes to T3 in the liver (other organs too).

NOTE: Its good for people who use ANY of this to know the type/brand options.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 9:26 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the warning Astroman. I wonder if the D-Limonene would give me the same benefits? I may experiment since it's not costly. I also may experiment with eating oatmeal and apple, maybe 2x a day.

6 caps is 4,800 mg. I only take 4. This is the standard recommended amount - but usually 2-3x a day. It is so helpful for those that can't get rid of the lyme biotoxins.

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   Posted 10/20/2016 9:32 AM (GMT -6)   
cr3ativegirl said...
I have been using this since July and I think that it has had a major impact on my health and gotten me to where I am today ~ 95%.. I take 3-4 pills of MCP 2x a day. It has eliminated my herxes, which I suspect are being caused not by an active infection, but by stored toxins being released by my body now that I have room to process them. Anyway, that's the theory.

I have purchase the Now brand and also Pecta-Sol C. I can't tell the difference.

Highly recommend!


I think that is exactly why it helps me too. Have I asked you if you had the HLA gene test?

Also, do you take the MCP away from everything? I do, but I'm not sure if I need to. Dr. M.R. made it sound like it wasn't necessary like cholestyramine. I can only fit it in at 3 pm right now. Would like to get up to 2x a day.

Interestingly, I am good with herbs and MCP. But if I try to take abx (more than 1), I get major insomnia and urinary issues. I think it's due to the toxins and my 4 caps of MCP can't absorb enough. Unfortunately my doc is not big on Shoemaker Theory...

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   Posted 10/20/2016 9:56 AM (GMT -6)   
This stuff (all of it) is alkalyzing. Most of us are "acified".

What d-limonene does, its the more natural version (unrefined) of the two other types mentioned by others:

www.wellnessresources.com/health/articles/d-limonene_help_for_digestion_metabolism_detoxification_anxiety_breast_canc/

www.webmd.com/vitamins-supplements/ingredientreview-1105-LIMONENE.aspx?drugid=1105&drugname=LIMONENE

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   Posted 10/20/2016 11:09 AM (GMT -6)   
I have the HLA gene and got really sick last summer (2015) staying at a moldy house for 3 weeks. Put me over the edge. I was already sick with Lyme & Co.

When I started treatment, my LLMD suspected Mold was a huge problem and put me on cholestyramine. I was so toxic, it made me herx very badly. I've only been able to use it since I got the infections under control and I use it but have to follow with the MPC or else I herx. I try it ever once in a while to have how toxic I am. LOL.

Sticking with MPC. I listens to a Doctor on the detox project and she says people either MTHFR/detox issues probably need to just use it daily.
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   Posted 10/20/2016 12:02 PM (GMT -6)   
cr3ativegirl said...
I have the HLA gene and got really sick last summer (2015) staying at a moldy house for 3 weeks. Put me over the edge. I was already sick with Lyme & Co.

When I started treatment, my LLMD suspected Mold was a huge problem and put me on cholestyramine. I was so toxic, it made me herx very badly. I've only been able to use it since I got the infections under control and I use it but have to follow with the MPC or else I herx. I try it ever once in a while to have how toxic I am. LOL.

Sticking with MPC. I listens to a Doctor on the detox project and she says people either MTHFR/detox issues probably need to just use it daily.


Sounds like you may have the hla gene for both mold & lyme? I have lyme only (15-6-51 or something like that). I want to try cholestyramine at some point. I think I will have to if I go on abx again. It makes me feel so much better knowing you are better with gene issue too. Thank you so much for sharing your info.

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   Posted 1/28/2018 8:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I know this is an older post but wanted to see if anyone had any updates on modified citrus pectin? I had the HLA testing done and have the gene for Lyme and mold so have bought some and just started using it. I had a bad herx from taking berberine recently and that got me looking at detox methods which led me here.

I bought the Swanson PectiPure capsules on Amazon which are 600 mg each. I took two earlier today which is the first time I have taken any. How many should I be taking? Is that enough?
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