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Lk16
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Posted 11/5/2016 8:24 AM (GMT -7)
Hello Everyone.
Here in my story. I have always been a fun loving person who just enjoyed living life. I moved to Nashville after receiving a big promotion with my job and I was on top of the world. I moved to an apartment complex that were surrounded by trees and bushes but never once thought that I may have contracted Lyme from my area.

I met a wonderful guy and gave birth to my first child in July 2012 and shortly after giving birth my life changed. A few days after giving birth, I came down with a fever and was given antibiotics after the doctor suggested it was from my recent C-section. A few days later my life changed forever. I woke up in my first of many panic attacks and felt like I was dying. I immediately told my boyfriend to take me to the er because not only did I have a sense of death but I felt like I was literally outside of my body and did not feel normal.

When arriving at the ER, my doctor admitted me for a couple of days because he stated my bloodwork was totally out of control and he didn’t know why so I was treated as if I had post-partum preeclampsia. I was given magnesium and blood pressure medicines and had to rest for 3 days before I was sent home. When I stood up to leave the hospital, my heart rate would go up to 140 just walking to the bathroom.

I finally was having a panic attack episode in the ER when I was diagnosed with a heart arrhythmia and had a cardiac ablation done. The procedure did not fully fix my issues and I was placed on beta blockers to control my heart rate and still take the pill today. After telling my doctor about all of my symptoms, he stated I just had post partum depression and prescribed me some anti-depressants. I knew something wasn’t right with my heart and new symptoms started happening each day.

Long story short, I had panic attacks at least 5 times a day and was afraid to sleep because I would wake up each time in a panic and did not know what was wrong. I had an MRI done that was normal, sinus checkups and told I only only severe sinus problems and was steady given antidepressants that were not helping. My body had a numb feeling and I was also emotionally numb and could not bond with my newborn so my mom and his dad took care of him while I was trying to figure out what was wrong with me.

Many trips to a Physiatrist and ER still no answer to what was happening to my body. I was always told it was just depression and sent home. I had facial dropping, floaters that came out of no where, loss of sensation in my body, sensitivity to light, pins and needles feeling in my feet, sharp pains throughout my body, dermatographia , frequent skin rashes constant head pressure which I still have today.

During the first week of my symptoms, I could not drive a car due to not being able to focus my eyes at all and it scared me. I received an eye exam and everything was normal and the floaters were just there now and I basically had to deal with it. I still have a feeling of depersonalization and emotional numbness till this day and it has affected my life including my relationship.

I have had night sweats where I would wake up and the bed would be soaking wet as if I poured water in the bed under me. I have low grade fevers sometimes and other times I have low body temperature. I have also constant sinus pressure, numbness in my face, hands, feet sometime that come and go. Lately, I have also had terrible pain in my hands and feet that are only getting worse. I have not felt well since 2012 when all this occurred and knew that something was wrong so here it is 2016 and I’m finally realizing that I may have lyme disease.

I want to feel normal again and not feel like I am living outside of my body. I try to put on a smile but inside I know something is wrong. I stopped telling my doctors what symptoms I was having because they did not believe that anything was wrong. The way I feel each day is not normal and if only I can get a diagnosis and test, it will help me move on so I can maybe live a normal life again.

I have two boys now and cannot do a lot of things with them because of the symptoms that now included nausea, upset stomach, joint pain and fatigue. A lot of my symptoms come and go so it makes living each day manageable but it is hard not having a definite answer as to why I am feeling this way. I now live in Memphis, TN but all of my symptoms started in Nashville. If anyone on this site knows of any Lyme doctors in the Memphis, TN area or close please contact me.

Post Edited By Moderator (Traveler) : 11/5/2016 9:40:32 AM (GMT-6)

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Traveler
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Posted 11/5/2016 8:48 AM (GMT -7)
Hi LK,
Welcome to our community! I'm so glad you found us.

I edited your post, only to space it out some - some with Neuro Lyme have a lot of trouble reading large paragraphs, so we try to remember to have lots of spacing in our posts here so that more people can easily read them and can comment.

Yes, you do need to be checked out for Lyme and co-infections, as well as other infections, as it's quite common to have things like EBV (Epstein Barr Virus, the one responsible for Mono), Herpes viruses, and others.

If you haven't ​yet​, it would be helpful for you to start with reading through the thread at the top of the forum titled,"New to Lyme?...Start here!!", as it is packed full of important information, symptom lists, helpful links and pdf's, how to detox when one has these infections, information on probiotics and much more. And this is another good list of possible detoxing routines: www.tiredoflyme.com/detox-methods.html Detoxing for us is an incredibly important part of our healing.

For information on finding a​n ILADS ​(International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society)​ trained​ Lyme Literate Medical Doctor(LLMD) in your area, you will need to enable your email option in your profile in order to receive any recommendations, as we don't allow doctor's names and contact info to be posted on the forum for several reasons. You can enable your email option in your profile, under 'edit profile'. Be sure to click the submit button to actually save your preference.


​You can send me an email by clicking on my screen name or the small blue envelope under my screen name. I may have contact information for some LLMD's in your area as well.​ ​Please include your state (or province) and area that you would like to find a LLMD in and I will be happy to share the names I have.​


You can email the Tick-Borne Disease Alliance at medicalinfo@tbdalliance.org​ for LLMD referrals.


You can go to The Lyme Disease Association and search for LLMD's 3 times in a month. You have to register first. Here is the link:
www.lymediseaseassociation.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=277&Itemid=74​​


ILADS has their own referral system as well:
ilads.org/ilads_media/physician-referral/

And www.LymeDoc.org


​ You will want to find a well trained doctor, not one that has self proclaimed themselves as a LLMD or an ID Doc (Infectious Disease Doctor), as ID docs believe Lyme is hard to catch and easy to treat, and don't believe in the reality of chronic Lyme. Go to the ILADS site to read the new (2014) Treatment guidelines to get you started on your healing journey:
www.lymenet.org/BurrGuide200810.pdf

Do be sure to ask to be put on a cancellation list, as there are often times these doctors have very long wait times, but if you are on a cancellation list, the office can call you and let you know if someone has cancelled an appt that you can then take. Many get in much sooner by doing this.

There are things you can do now to help you too!! Start by working on your diet and detoxing. Your diet basically needs to be very healthy - no fast foods, as few prepared or 'boxed' foods as you can possibly handle, good quality protein, and lots of vegetables. Usually a low carb diet is best as well, as it leads to less issues with Candida (yeast infection).

I listed a site that has really good detoxing suggestions for Lyme patients. Any questions you have, please do feel free to ask!! There are no dumb questions here - if you don't know or don't understand, please do ask.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)
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Huddie
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Posted 11/5/2016 8:56 AM (GMT -7)
LK16,

I want to welcome you to the forum. It has saved my sanity.

I am so very sorry that you have enduring so very much and at a time in your life when so much of your energy needs to be given to your newborn (congrats). It sounds like you may have had chronic/dormant lyme. The rapid plummet in hormones probably woke it up. I have heard several women with fibromyalgia and MS (both are usually undiagnosed lyme) say that when pregnant their symptoms all went into remission). It may have been similar for you. Please know you are very sane and all/most of your symptoms are shared by many of us. The good news is that you can now get yourself treated and go on to have a happy, full life.

I would change diet, start detoxing and building up your immune system. Find a lyme literate doctor and get tested. The tests take over a month and this is not a quick fix. But fixable.

Come on here as much as you need to and ask as many questions as you need to, we're here. The moderators on here (I'm not one) are the kindest, smartest and well versed people on lyme you will ever find.

Sending prayers to you and your family.
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dacarte3
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Posted 11/5/2016 9:17 AM (GMT -7)
I got half way through your post and didn't have to read more. Your plethora of symptoms are 90% similar to those that I had when I first got ill.

I'm curious did you have a "flu" before all this started happening?

Some of my very early symptoms was a panic attack. I didn't have as many as you or as frequent. But yes I would wake up in the middle of the night in a panic, shaking and trembling, I thought I was losing my mind. I would sweat a lot when i slept and would have to change shirt every night.

Tingle, numbness, facial paralysis, mood swings. I'll be fine one minute and then the next minute a huge funk of depression would take over me (no serotonin production). Heart racing, anxiety. Rashes. Light sensitivity, eye focus issues, floaters.

Even "depersonalization" where it feels like you outside of your self in like a dream state. The world looked weird and funny like it's a dream and you don't feel grounded.

All these symptoms all at once is lyme disease, there really is no other illness that creates these specific combination of symptoms.

Are you going to get tested through Igenex?

And you can feel "normal" again, I feel normal again the majority of the time.
Lyme: Igenex IFA positive and Igenex Westernblot band 31 and 41
Ehrlichia: Positive (Igenex)
Mycoplasma: Positive (Labcorp)

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Present
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Lk16
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Posted 11/5/2016 9:50 AM (GMT -7)
Huddy,

Thank you for your response. Yes, I have questioned my sanity for 4 years now and am glad to have found this site. I really don't know if I contracted it before or after giving birth to my first born but now I am concerned that If I do have Lyme, that I passed it to my smaller son because he has had a few symptoms that could be lyme as well. The first step for me is getting diagnosed so I can get treatment and someone to test both of my children to make sure I did not pass it on to them. It was the worst feeling in the world when I was a new mother and had not emotional connection to my newborn or any other person in my life. I felt like I had not emotions and was just there. I felt alone but now I am ready to do something about it. I will definitely look into a different diet and detoxing. Why does lyme testing take so long if you don't mind me asking. I thought it was just a simple blood test but regardless of how long it will take, i'm willing to wait.

Huddie said...
LK16,

I want to welcome you to the forum. It has saved my sanity.

I am so very sorry that you have enduring so very much and at a time in your life when so much of your energy needs to be given to your newborn (congrats). It sounds like you may have had chronic/dormant lyme. The rapid plummet in hormones probably woke it up. I have heard several women with fibromyalgia and MS (both are usually undiagnosed lyme) say that when pregnant their symptoms all went into remission). It may have been similar for you. Please know you are very sane and all/most of your symptoms are shared by many of us. The good news is that you can now get yourself treated and go on to have a happy, full life.

I would change diet, start detoxing and building up your immune system. Find a lyme literate doctor and get tested. The tests take over a month and this is not a quick fix. But fixable.

Come on here as much as you need to and ask as many questions as you need to, we're here. The moderators on here (I'm not one) are the kindest, smartest and well versed people on lyme you will ever find.

Sending prayers to you and your family.

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Lk16
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Posted 11/5/2016 9:56 AM (GMT -7)
Dacarte,

Wow is the only word I can say after reading your reply. No, I did not get diagnosed with the flu but I did have flu like symptoms before this happened. Started with the fever, I had chills and just felt very ill two nights before the panic attacks started.

It was a awful feeling to wake up screaming and feeling you are going to die and not knowing what was happening. I cried a lot because I too felt as if I was living in a dream world state and when I tried to describe how I felt, no one understood or believed me. I still have the same feeling but it has gotten a little better. And yes, I had to change shirts every night as well, it was terrible.

I had other visual disturbances as well as the floaters because I always saw stars, figures of spiders in the dark, it was so weird and scary! Everyone including myself thought I was going crazy and I couldn't find any answers. The panic attacks subsided over time but when I was having them, they mostly occurred while I was sleeping and I just woke up screaming every night so I actually could not sleep for 3 days straight because I was scared to sleep and wake up in fear.

I still feel a sense of disconnection and emotional numbness which is affecting my quality of life. The feeling of depression takes over me also and that is why it was so easy for a doctor to dismiss further testing for other causes of my symptoms so I just put on a happy face and just dealt with it but not anymore.

I was actually going to make an appointment with my Family Physician to get a test but I am in fear that they would just say that it is all in my head so I will look into Igenex for testing. It gives me some relief to know that I am not alone in this. Thanks so much for your reply. Did your feeling of depersonalization ever go away?




dacarte3 said...
I got half way through your post and didn't have to read more. Your plethora of symptoms are 90% similar to those that I had when I first got ill.

I'm curious did you have a "flu" before all this started happening?

Some of my very early symptoms was a panic attack. I didn't have as many as you or as frequent. But yes I would wake up in the middle of the night in a panic, shaking and trembling, I thought I was losing my mind. I would sweat a lot when i slept and would have to change shirt every night.

Tingle, numbness, facial paralysis, mood swings. I'll be fine one minute and then the next minute a huge funk of depression would take over me (no serotonin production). Heart racing, anxiety. Rashes. Light sensitivity, eye focus issues, floaters.

Even "depersonalization" where it feels like you outside of your self in like a dream state. The world looked weird and funny like it's a dream and you don't feel grounded.

All these symptoms all at once is lyme disease, there really is no other illness that creates these specific combination of symptoms.

Are you going to get tested through Igenex?

And you can feel "normal" again, I feel normal again the majority of the time.

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Posted 11/5/2016 10:00 AM (GMT -7)
So far, every symptom you have mentioned (even the disconnected from life feeling) can be explained by these infections, and the issues they create in the body. Hang in there, and find a doctor that knows more than the average one for helping you heal. Your GP, Infectious Disease docs and others rarely know enough to be of help, so I would encourage you to find a LLMD/LLND in your area to start seeing.

Serious night sweats are usually caused by Babesia, but the co-infection testing is about as poor as the Lyme testing, so you need to have clinical diagnoses, and not rely on the tests alone.

Igenex will take the time required for proper Lyme testing, allowing that this is a very slow growing bacteria that only replicates every 3 - 6 weeks, whereas other bacteria will replicate in a number of minutes or hours. So proper testing for Lyme should take a long time.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)
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Posted 11/5/2016 10:05 AM (GMT -7)
Dacarte,

I loved reading that you feel normal 90% of the time. I live for these hopeful posts. I'm sharing with my son. Thank you!

When people write Buhner protocol what does that mean? He offers alot of choices? Does that mean you just did the major three: JK, forget the other two?
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Posted 11/5/2016 10:11 AM (GMT -7)
LK16,

Try to just focus on yourself right now. Like the old airplane adage - get your oxygen mask on first then help the kids. Can you get them tested at the same time you get tested? The tests take a long time and it may ease your mind.

This is a different story but my mom was ill when pregnant with me. I was born two month premature and stayed in an incubator in the hospital for three months. She also couldn't take care of me so my grandmother and aunt took care of me for over a year. I don't remember any of it and my mom and I had a wonderful relationship. She went on to have other illnesses and operations but I remember the simple things: her singing to me, walking around holding my hand, reading to me, lying of sofa and cuddling. There is so much you can do with little energy. I have gone through mourning over not being the Mom I used to be, and my kid is 14 now (and just diagnosed). Kids love their moms - it's that simple and that powerful.

You will heal and build great memories with your family.
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Posted 11/5/2016 11:13 AM (GMT -7)
Welcome, LK16 - so sorry for all the suffering you have endured.


If funds are tight, you can just get the Igenex Lyme Western Blot IgM and IgG test (test 188 and 189)- costs $210 for both (plus extra if you need to pay a lab to do the blood draw)
Have the test done early in the week (Mon/Tues) so that the sample isn't sitting over the week-end when Igenex is closed.

You can call Igenex and order the test kit. You need a Dr. to sign the lab req. Any Dr. will do...your PCP, or even a chiropractor, ND can sign.

www.igenex.com/Website/
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14; added biaxin Sept. 26/14 Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.; Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin); Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif; Nov. switched mino to biaxin.
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Posted 11/5/2016 11:23 AM (GMT -7)
Thank you for all of your helpful information Traveler and your geniune concern. I am researching a LLMD in my area so I can begin the necessary testing for Lyme disease. Yes, I already know that most GP's dismiss lyme so I want to find a doctor who is willing to do all of the necessary testing and at the same time, I will find ways to help myself as well by detoxing and etc. I am so happy to have found this forum!

Traveler said...
So far, every symptom you have mentioned (even the disconnected from life feeling) can be explained by these infections, and the issues they create in the body. Hang in there, and find a doctor that knows more than the average one for helping you heal. Your GP, Infectious Disease docs and others rarely know enough to be of help, so I would encourage you to find a LLMD/LLND in your area to start seeing.

Serious night sweats are usually caused by Babesia, but the co-infection testing is about as poor as the Lyme testing, so you need to have clinical diagnoses, and not rely on the tests alone.

Igenex will take the time required for proper Lyme testing, allowing that this is a very slow growing bacteria that only replicates every 3 - 6 weeks, whereas other bacteria will replicate in a number of minutes or hours. So proper testing for Lyme should take a long time.

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Posted 11/5/2016 11:25 AM (GMT -7)
Please do let us know how we can be of help!!
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)
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Huddie said...
Dacarte,

I loved reading that you feel normal 90% of the time. I live for these hopeful posts. I'm sharing with my son. Thank you!

When people write Buhner protocol what does that mean? He offers alot of choices? Does that mean you just did the major three: JK, forget the other two?

Yes. I have a bad few days every few months, but in between I feel fine, physically and mentally. I just take it easy on those few bad days. So I really take a advantage of those stretches of feeling normal.

I don't know if I'll ever be 100% symptom free and this is as good as it gets. But if it is as good as it gets, I'll take it because I know it could be much worse.

Buhner does recommend a lot of choices. So what I did is read all his newest books like 3 times and really studied the herbs, what they do, why they do it and how they do it. How they interact with each other. How they may synergize. Then I took that knowledge and created a my "own" Buhner protocol based on my symptoms. Sort of a more advance way of doing it but, doing any of his pre-made protocols that fits your infection should be helpful by itself.
Lyme: Igenex IFA positive and Igenex Westernblot band 31 and 41
Ehrlichia: Positive (Igenex)
Mycoplasma: Positive (Labcorp)

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Present
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Posted 11/5/2016 4:45 PM (GMT -7)
Welcome yes..dna connexions is a pcr test you can do at home no doctor needed...
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Posted 11/5/2016 4:54 PM (GMT -7)
LK,

The CNS symptoms went away first for me. Which was great because, it's one thing to have weird, unpleasant physical symptoms, but it's much worse to have Lyme mess with your mind.

So I hope it's the same for you.

As far as visual symptoms, yes I experienced looking at a dimly lit wall and seeing dark tiny spots that made it look like a spider or bug was on the wall (of course it wasn't).

I also experienced a shawdowy figure in my peripheral vision. I read why lyme causes this particular symptom but can't remember off the top of my head. Also comet tails, like when you look a street lamp or your phone and move your eyes and the light will have a comet trail.
Lyme: Igenex IFA positive and Igenex Westernblot band 31 and 41
Ehrlichia: Positive (Igenex)
Mycoplasma: Positive (Labcorp)

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Present
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