Detoxing for head symptoms

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Brainzap545
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   Posted 2/1/2017 1:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Still, my head symptoms seem to be the worst (almost only) symptom. Tingling, burning, numbness, aching, throbbing, foggy, drunk...you name it. It's rare I have a full day of clarity. I used to have constant headaches and since treatment I rarely have the headaches anymore, so it's not necessarily that I am in much pain, but it is still debilitating and makes it hard to focus.

Has anyone found any successful detox methods to manage/improve this symptom?

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   Posted 2/1/2017 2:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Have you tried something specifically for the 'head'?

There is Nutramedix Brain/Nerve Cleanse.
I take that combined with the Nutramedix Pinella.

There is also Jernigan's remedy:
Neuro-Antitox ll CNS/PNS is part of Dr. Jernigan's Nutraceuticals designed to remove the toxins caused by the Lyme bacteria using a botanical known as Silphium Laciniatum.
The Neuro-Antitox ll formulas are designed to remove mop up, break down, and bind up toxins in order to lessen a Lyme die off.
The CNS/PNS specific formula is for those experiencing symptoms in the brain, meninges, and peripheral nerves from Lyme toxins and heavy metals.
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blueberrymuffin
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   Posted 2/1/2017 3:05 PM (GMT -6)   
I take Burbur Pinella. I have recently started, so I can't say if it is working, but I read a lot of positive reviews and you should consider it.
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   Posted 2/1/2017 3:10 PM (GMT -6)   
You can also try molybdenum.
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   Posted 2/1/2017 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
I take Pinella.
Tick bite in 2010, possibly earlier.
Diagnosed with Lyme 8/2016.
Positive for IgM 41, 38 and IgG 93/83,66, 58, 41, 30 and IgM and IgM/IgG AB

Cefuroxime 500 2x daily 8/16-9/16
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Brainzap545
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   Posted 2/1/2017 3:52 PM (GMT -6)   
blueberrymuffin said...
I take Burbur Pinella. I have recently started, so I can't say if it is working, but I read a lot of positive reviews and you should consider it.


I use this occasionally but haven't noticed much difference. How much do you use/how often?

Girlie
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   Posted 2/1/2017 4:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I take Pinella and Bubur together everyday...whether I'm having a good day or bad day...bad day, I take it more than once.

When I'm herxing...I will do 'rounds' of it until herx subsides.

It has a cumulative effect so it's best to take it (whichever one(s) you choose) daily...
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Brainzap545
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   Posted 2/1/2017 4:33 PM (GMT -6)   
So would that be 20 drops/day? More? I don't want to take to much. Is this herb particularly good for the symptoms I mentioned?

quote="Girlie"]I take Pinella and Bubur together everyday...whether I'm having a good day or bad day...bad day, I take it more than once.

When I'm herxing...I will do 'rounds' of it until herx subsides.

It has a cumulative effect so it's best to take it (whichever one(s) you choose) daily...

Girlie
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   Posted 2/1/2017 4:36 PM (GMT -6)   
I put 10 drops each of pinella and burbur...in 1/2 glad of water and sip on it...
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Girlie
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   Posted 2/1/2017 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Burbur - is a general detox.

Pinella - is for the brain and nerves.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

goshawk
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   Posted 2/1/2017 4:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi, Just wondered if you are on any of the specific herbals that Buhner suggests to target symptoms of NeuroBorreliosis?

Brainzap545
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   Posted 2/1/2017 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
No..just antibiotics from Dr. J. I was working with an herbalist in conjunction...but Dr. J's NP said I needed to stop my herbals because it would "muddy the waters" and she didn't know much about them sad

goshawk said...
Hi, Just wondered if you are on any of the specific herbals that Buhner suggests to target symptoms of NeuroBorreliosis?

goshawk
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   Posted 2/1/2017 5:14 PM (GMT -6)   
oh ok I just had some of the same symptoms before and that protocol specifically for the Neuro head stuff seems to be working for me. I'm also on antibiotics.
I also was sure to take a espsom salt bath every night and I drink lemon w/water all day. Then I take 2 capsules of milk thistle in P.M.
You might have heard all of this stuff before, but I thought I would post it just in case you didn't.

Since the headaches are going away that is a really good improvement. I hope you see relief from the other symptoms soon. I know they can be so uncomfortable and discouraging to have. My major head symptoms have diminished a lot since September so hang in there. Sincerely, Jo

Brainzap545
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   Posted 2/1/2017 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks so much for the positive feedback. Do you see Dr. J? I sometimes take epsom salt foot baths but I live in an old apartment and don't like to use the tub to take baths. Are footbaths as effective? Also, is milk thistle a problem if you have allergies?


goshawk said...
oh ok I just had some of the same symptoms before and that protocol specifically for the Neuro head stuff seems to be working for me. I'm also on antibiotics.
I also was sure to take a espsom salt bath every night and I drink lemon w/water all day. Then I take 2 capsules of milk thistle in P.M.
You might have heard all of this stuff before, but I thought I would post it just in case you didn't.

Since the headaches are going away that is a really good improvement. I hope you see relief from the other symptoms soon. I know they can be so uncomfortable and discouraging to have. My major head symptoms have diminished a lot since September so hang in there. Sincerely, Jo

goshawk
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   Posted 2/1/2017 5:29 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh you are so welcome. No, I don't see Dr J. I live in the Massachusetts and see a Dr.C in New York. He is well known for helping people with Lyme and so far I have improved. He doesnt treat with herbals, but understands the benefits from them and knows I am taking them also.
Others here say they use a foot bath with good results. I would post again asking about the Milk Thistle. I haven't had any issues but everyone is different. There are others like Traveler that know much more about it and maybe can offer some insight and help you.
Sincerely, Jo

Girlie
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   Posted 2/1/2017 6:07 PM (GMT -6)   
goshawk said...
Hi, Just wondered if you are on any of the specific herbals that Buhner suggests to target symptoms of NeuroBorreliosis?


I'm taking some herbs for CNS symptoms - particularly severe CNS /brain involvement, and neural pain.
The two I chose are Greater Celandine and Kudzu.

I'm thinking of ordering Lion's Mane for nerve myelin sheath repair.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Brainzap545
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   Posted 2/1/2017 6:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Do those work in conjunction with heavy antibiotics?

Girlie
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   Posted 2/1/2017 6:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Brainzap545 said...
Do those work in conjunction with heavy antibiotics?


Are you asking me?

Yes , I take them while on antibiotics (not at the same time, though)
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

tiggeerrific
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   Posted 5/7/2018 9:44 PM (GMT -6)   
GoShawk who is Dr. C ?



Sorry - edited out his last name. We use initials only for the LLMD's privacy/protection.

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 5/7/2018 9:59:15 PM (GMT-6)


tiggeerrific
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   Posted 5/8/2018 5:53 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry I did not know I was looking for a way to reach GoShawk to see who her doctor is as I am still looking for a llMD . And she sees someone in NY and that is where I live.How would I be able to ask

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   Posted 5/8/2018 6:00 AM (GMT -6)   
goshawk said...
Oh you are so welcome. No, I don't see Dr J. I live in the Massachusetts and see a Dr.C in New York. He is well known for helping people with Lyme and so far I have improved. He doesnt treat with herbals, but understands the benefits from them and knows I am taking them also.
Others here say they use a foot bath with good results. I would post again asking about the Milk Thistle. I haven't had any issues but everyone is different. There are others like Traveler that know much more about it and maybe can offer some insight and help you.
Sincerely, Jo

Girlie
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   Posted 5/9/2018 10:03 PM (GMT -6)   
tiggeerrific said...
Sorry I did not know I was looking for a way to reach GoShawk to see who her doctor is as I am still looking for a llMD . And she sees someone in NY and that is where I live.How would I be able to ask


Her email is enabled - click on the envelope under her screen name on the left.
Her email will come up.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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