Has anyone gone to the Lifestyle Healing Institute in Florida?

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dmw52
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   Posted 2/6/2017 1:11 PM (GMT -6)   
I copied the info below from a post on another forum. It's from the book "Don't Kill My Lyme". I am curious if anyone has gone there. The other forum had a post by a lady who tried many other things and after 4 weeks is doing much better.

All of the information below is from the book. I only cut and pasted the important parts for the group. Some of you may oppose to this and you are entitled to think however you wish to think and I am not here to argue with anyone so please maintain respect and civility. I'm here providing information I read and feel it's 100% true based on my own experience.
Healing Lyme means healing multiple brain and bodily systems and after we heal the brain and body, you may still have Lyme, but you will feel better. All that matters is getting you better, and “we’ve proven it can be accomplished safely, without drugs and without ever killing your Lyme.”
Yes, you read correctly. You don’t have to kill your Lyme and suffer through months and years of useless antibiotic treatment. You don’t have to suffer the agonizing die-offs (Jarisch-Herxheimer Reactions). You don’t have to kill your Lyme in order to get better.
Some may be annoyed, surprised, and maybe even relieved that someone, or some clinic, could possibly say this, but it’s true. Many individuals have been to numerous doctors utilizing the same philosophy – you must kill your Lyme. If you’re reading this page, it means those doctors have failed you, and you’re still not better. It’s time for another way. A way that completely shatters your understanding of Lyme. “A way that doesn’t require killing Lyme at all.” Here are some facts, science, and compelling reasons to support our protocol.
First off – Lyme is a diagnosis that individuals seek because they just don’t feel well. It helps provide a reason and a diagnosis, however you wouldn’t seek this diagnosis if you felt well.
You will Never, Ever, Ever Kill Lyme completely – no matter what type of treatment you seek or have done in the past.
Lyme has a bevy of mental-emotional issues that play a major role in the manifestations of symptoms, especially the “relapse” of those symptoms.
Antibiotics are the most common treatment available.
Lyme Disease and 80% of Infectious Disease build biofilms.
Biofilm species have been found in fossils dating back 4.25 billion years (yes billions with a “B”) – Good Luck Outsmarting Them.
Biofilm species have intricate and highly sophisticated communication systems.
Biofilm species have their own metabolic systems.
Antibiotics do not penetrate biofilms and thus are ineffective in Lyme treatment protocols.
Antibiotics make biofilm species more resistant.
Antibiotics cause extensive damage to the brain, the immune system, and the GI system.
Killing Lyme causes Die-off which worsens symptoms and even cause new symptoms to develop.
A compromised immune system allows entry of Lyme Disease.
Lyme appears to resemble numerous other conditions.
More from the book >>>
It turns out, healing Lyme (and numerous other symptoms associated with Lyme) doesn’t require killing Lyme – it requires addressing and healing all of symptoms and causes.
Also, please don’t think we don’t know how to kill Lyme – this couldn’t be further from the truth. We have a multifactorial plan that kills Lyme and honestly, individuals wouldn’t suffer nearly as much as experienced in prior treatments, but what’s the point? Our patients get better without killing it, in far less time and in a much safer manner. Again, our mutual goal is to get you better, and we do it without killing your Lyme. We don’t kill Lyme because we know so much about it; so much about its complications, its biofilm, its existence. We have a better way, a more efficient way, a more scientific way, and most importantly a way that’s different, holistic, and integrative; a way that gets you better.

julymorning
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   Posted 2/6/2017 1:24 PM (GMT -6)   
Am I to understand then by your opening with your statement of not "being here to argue", and that this is 100% true, that this topic isn't open to debate or difference of knowledge based on other research or experience?

I just want to be clear on this, because there may be one or two differences of thought even though there will be agreement on most of it.
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Fibro diagnosed '85 Lyme (false)positive '92 untreated,Osteoporosis, COPD, Hypertension, degen. disc disease, RMSF pos. Spring 2015, Cong. Heart Failure, osteoarthritis. Treating PHY. an Internist, LLMD out of the question. Used Doxy, Zithro and Flagyl since June '15, self pulsed.Current treatment with JK, Milk Thistle, kudzu, beginning Hout. shortly.

Girlie
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   Posted 2/6/2017 1:28 PM (GMT -6)   
I understand the idea of building up the body/brain so it can heal..but I'm not sure I agree with the 'no killing' at all aspect. I do believe there needs to be some antibacterial/antimicrobials to get the bacterial load down so your newly strengthened immune system can handle the rest.
I think the immune system has been broken for too long to completely take care of it.

So, you can only find the one testimony?

I would definitely want to see more than one..if I was going to shell out the money to try it.
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added biaxin Sept. 26/14
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dmw52
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   Posted 2/6/2017 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Julymorning, I just copied this from another forum....it's not my opinion. I am interested to see if anyone has gone to the Lifestyle Healing Institute in Florida.

Girlie, I am not sure about "killing Lyme". Many people seem to have Lyme without any symptoms. If your immune system is strong enough to keep it in check, you don't have symptoms. I don't think you can kill all the bacteria. It's an interesting article.

Girlie
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   Posted 2/6/2017 3:08 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, I agree...people can have lyme without symptoms...but when/if it gets to the point where you do have symptoms...then your immune system is no longer 'handling' the infection...and at that point you will need some antimicrobial treatment IMO.

Even Stephen Buhner's protocols DO have antimicrobial herbs...
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Bama39
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   Posted 1/20/2018 3:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Just joined. Glad to see the info on LHI. I just got their book yesterday and went through it pretty closely. Thanks to those who recognized and posted 'red flags' and warnings.

I'm just starting out, so will be reading and learning from you who have "been there, done that '!

Girlie
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   Posted 1/20/2018 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Bama39, welcome!

Sorry that you have lyme disease, but glad you found your way here. Lots of knowledge and support from the members here.

Do you have a LL Dr. to guide your treatment?

We encourage our new members to read through the information contained in the thread: "New to Lyme?..Start Here!" It sits at the top of the page.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

aphysicalwreck
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   Posted 1/20/2018 5:54 PM (GMT -6)   
I agree to a point. I am with girlie on this one. But what does this clinic do?
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