"So here it goes, you know how they say when you have chronic lyme, you never get regular sick? Well, I understand that in the sense that it's bc your immune system is too busy trying to fight off lyme that it doesn't have the "time or energy" to fight off other illnesses. Am I right? Then why is it that when people get initially sick with lyme it is all flulike symptoms and such? Is it bc it is in the early stages? (This is what happened to me, when I first got lyme and didn't know it I kept on getting sick and no matter what antibiotic I took, as soon as it was out of my system I got sick again), and then once it became "disseminated" the sickness kinda ended and I started getting systemic symptoms like muscle weakness and nerve pain."
Basically, yes, you are correct. It's in the early stages and the body is trying to fight it - so it produces those symptoms. My hubby had Lyme only and went through this. Funny thing about
it was, when he realized that I had lived like this for most of my life - his eyes got super wide! LOL! He was amazed that I lived like that for years on end. It was a bit of a wake up call for him. LOL.
"Second question - why is it that kids seem to get sick alot when they have lyme? Is it bc their immune systems are stronger and they are able to fight lyme and regular illnesses? But I still don't understand this. Bc when I read about
kids with chronic lyme they tend to get sick constantly and miss alot of school."
Generally, yes. When I was a kid sick with these infections, it didn't stop tonsillitis, pink eye, upper respiratory infections and such from happening - I actually had them so much that I missed a ton of school and nearly got held back 2 different years. A child's immune system is supposed to be better able to handle sickness though, so it's an attempt by the immune system to handle the initial infection, but fails to control it well, so it 'leads' into a secondary infection - because the first infection (Lyme and company) is keeping the immune system "too busy". At least that's what I understand. Still learning more about
this aspect though.
"person #1 - gets sick every other week. this is a person that is chronically sick. I would say well if they are always sick then their immune system is working. But I used to say, well if they are getting sick so much its bc they have a weak immune system. Now I am wondering - is this person like a kid who has lyme - that there is an underlying problem (not necessarily lyme), that is causing their immune system to overreact and they are getting sick more often than usual?"
I would basically agree with this - and think I alluded to it above?
"Finally - take an athletic person like a gym trainer - some of these people NEVER get sick. Why?? People go in and out of the gym, sweat everywhere, the flu is going around, and even one of the other trainers got the flu, but this guy that is one of the other trainers there NEVER gets anything! he hasn't been sick in years - how can that be? I am guessing its bc his immune system is so strong that it just fights it off like its nothing and he has no symptoms?"
Well, considering we have many members here that were very athletic previous to having Lyme, I would say that the person does have a strong immune system, but not necessarily because they have a good work out routine. It depends on more than just that, but if they have a strong immune system, are taking good care of their body (working out/getting plenty of exercise), eating good, and such - then they have a much smaller chance of getting sick to begin with, and so, have a much lower chance of having Lyme disease take over their life - but doesn't stop them from getting a Lyme infection, it's just that their immune system can just take care of the infection on it's own - quickly in the beginning when it can be eradicated from the body.
"So either the herbs just kept her immune system so strong that she didn't really have any symptoms, or what else could it be? And my guess is maybe she was lucky in that at that time, she was exposed to the same strain we were just sick with and so she was immune?"
I would say this is partly true. The herbs kept her from having many symptoms, but it likely wasn't enough for lowering her bacterial load sufficiently from Lyme and company. Not everyone tolerates the herbs, and so she may need a different approach - but if she's not having symptoms, I would carefully watch her, particularly during and after times of stress. This is when symptoms should be most apparent - if she still has the infection(s).
The other side of this is the herbs you did give her, were enough to support her immune system enough for it to take care of the infections - but, I would be cautious with this. Being complacent would be the worst thing for helping to make sure she is healed.
I wish there were more straight forward answers to these questions!!! But, I have not seen that there are easier answers.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New Lyme case 8/2014 - Healed 1/31/15 - unknowingly had Asymptomatic Babs and Asymptomatic Bart, being treated now though (2/2016)