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Skyy
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   Posted 3/13/2017 5:30 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi guys! =) I was wondering if anyone has ever heard of the Coimbra Protocol ? Apparently some doctors are flying to Sao Paolo to get training from Dr. Cicero Coimbra who treats MS and autoimmune diseases with individually calculated high doses of Vitamin D, aside from other things . He also treats lyme, although he doesn't advertise it openly, maybe since lyme is not endemic there .

Maybe someone in our forum who speaks and reads Portuguese can get more direct information for all of us ? This may be one promising protocol to keep an eye on ... maybe ?

Thanks in advance ! turn

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   Posted 3/13/2017 5:32 PM (GMT -6)   
Too much vitamin D can be detrimental. I would love to see how much vitamin D is being given.
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Skyy
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   Posted 3/13/2017 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Krimpet . Here is a link to his video . https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soKM6z1cdiM .

I didn't watch through the video (it's past midnight here)... but I think it is 10,000IU of Vit D. Also no dairy, no extra calcium, and 2.5 liters of water per day (?) to prevent undesirable side effects.

According to him strict adherence to protocol is necessary .

julymorning
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   Posted 3/13/2017 6:04 PM (GMT -6)   
10,000 isn't a whole lot of Vit D. My 'script is for 50,000, but I only am to take it weekly.

Do you know how often that does is supposed to be taken? I will have to wait until things slow down to go watch the video.
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Girlie
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   Posted 3/13/2017 6:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Interesting - now there's a protocol based on high vitamin D.

...There is also a protocol (not a popular one, though) based on low vitamin D - The Marshall Protocol.
Low vitamin D and fairly low dose antibiotics.
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added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
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Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Skyy
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   Posted 3/14/2017 5:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi July!! =) I just realised that sometimes he recommends 100,000IU of Vit D3 but with a whole lot of conditions and prohibited foods. So 50,000IU per week is not high at all? In this link I am posting he adds a lot of conditions in his protocol that need to be strictly adhered to by his patients...

Hi Girlie here is an informative link regarding this protocol. Am i right in thinking he does not prescribe antibiotics?
http://www.thisisms.com/forum/coimbra-high-dose-vitamin-d-protocol-f57/topic27182.html

I find it is very patient and condition-specific. So many tests before the treating doctor can decide on dosage and application. It is noted that Rifampin interferes with Vit D absorption. Yikes!!

Krimpet: Funny, just reading about Vitamin D toxicity in the Net.
shocked

Post Edited (Skyy) : 3/14/2017 5:50:32 PM (GMT-6)


Krimpet 🍔
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   Posted 3/14/2017 7:47 PM (GMT -6)   
I haven't watched the video yet, but I'm intrigued. I did 10,000 IU a day for several months to bring my low level up to 98. Now, I just do it 3x a week. I have to see what my values are now with lower dosing. Funny, that my doctor didn't restrict anything else with vitamin D or calcium. My other doctor was freaking out when I told him how much I was taking and that my vitamin D level was 98.
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Hwalker
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   Posted 11/11/2017 9:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I’m starting the Coimbra Protocol for Lyme in two weeks. I️ will update you on how treatment is going.

Lapis_29
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   Posted 11/11/2017 10:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Hwalker said...
I’m starting the Coimbra Protocol for Lyme in two weeks. I️ will update you on how treatment is going.


what exactly are you doling?

Girlie
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   Posted 11/12/2017 12:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Hwalker said...
I’m starting the Coimbra Protocol for Lyme in two weeks. I️ will update you on how treatment is going.


Yes, please do update us.

So, high vitamin D and low calcium is part of it.
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Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Post Edited (Girlie) : 11/11/2017 11:47:06 PM (GMT-7)


madisongrrl
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   Posted 11/12/2017 2:08 PM (GMT -6)   
This protocol is for people with MS and neurological symptoms; there is a FB group. I have not seen many people with Lyme posting there.

Hwalker
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   Posted 3/15/2018 10:51 PM (GMT -6)   
I’ve been on this protocol for a few months now. I feel so much better than my lyme treatment. I had to have a lot of tests done. Blood, 24 hour urine, and dexa scans. I also have to do my 24 hour urine test every 4 weeks. I’m closely watched by my doctor. I have to take a few different supplements but nothing compared to before. I was taking over 60 a day now I’m less than 15. I am taking 60,000 a day of vit D. The diet is hard at times but I just remind myself how bad I felt before. No side effects and I have energy. My body twitching has stopped and I feel like I’m speaking better and I have a lot more energy. Brain fog has lifted. I feel blessed I’ve found this and plan on staying with it. I’m excited to redo my tests for my co infections. I was tested for strep a couple of weeks ago and it was the first negative test from r strep in a year and a half.

MooseSafari
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   Posted 3/16/2018 1:57 AM (GMT -6)   
Congrats, that is really very uplifting and happy reading!

Octobrsky13
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   Posted 3/16/2018 7:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Interesting. When I started having a relapse of symptoms several years ago I started taking 10,000 iu/day to bring my level up from 8.3 and the symptoms I was having resolved. I was nervous about continuing at such a high dose and when I reduced it symptoms returned and I eventually had a full relapse.

Hwalker please keep us posted on your experience. What outcome are you expecting? I’m guessing you won’t be able to maintain that dose long term?

Hwalker
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   Posted 3/16/2018 8:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I believe you stay at that dose until you are in full remission. That’s what I’m hoping for. You stay at that dose until your own body can fight and kill the bacteria and infection viruses etc... once you’re immune system is working properly he drops you dose to 20000-10000 a day for maintenance. This is what I’m hoping for. Full recovery. You do stay on some form of the protocol for life. Until there is a proper cure for Lyme, I think this will be the best option for me.

Lapis_29
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   Posted 3/16/2018 8:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Hwalker said...
I’ve been on this protocol for a few months now. I feel so much better than my lyme treatment. I had to have a lot of tests done. Blood, 24 hour urine, and dexa scans. I also have to do my 24 hour urine test every 4 weeks. I’m closely watched by my doctor. I have to take a few different supplements but nothing compared to before. I was taking over 60 a day now I’m less than 15. I am taking 60,000 a day of vit D. The diet is hard at times but I just remind myself how bad I felt before. No side effects and I have energy. My body twitching has stopped and I feel like I’m speaking better and I have a lot more energy. Brain fog has lifted. I feel blessed I’ve found this and plan on staying with it. I’m excited to redo my tests for my co infections. I was tested for strep a couple of weeks ago and it was the first negative test from r strep in a year and a half.


60,000 a day of vit D?? wow!

the most I ever did was 10k for a couple weeks. seemed okay.

waht does your diet and supplement regimine consist of?

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MooseSafari
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   Posted 3/19/2018 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
I am curious, does anyone have knowledge how much vitamin D IU one gets for staying in the sun for half a day or so. Wonder if maybe that would be as efficient?

Notime4lyme
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   Posted 3/19/2018 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I have heard a lot of good and bad about vitamin D. Is it possible if there is some gene or something that determines if it's helpful or not. Or maybe it has to do with the state of your immune system (overactive vs. underactive)?
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