40, 11 kids, and it looks like I'm getting an ALS diagnosis

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   Posted 3/17/2017 7:04 AM (GMT -7)   
Having lots of neuro issues but I'm having a hard time believing ALS.

I had a tick bite (black legged tick) in 2008. 2 weeks of doxy - no rash.
I lived for four years in the NW area of Oregon (they have the Pacific tick out there that carries Lyme) and backpacked, trailed, camped, etc. constantly.
Super healthy but we moved from temperate Oregon in 2014. That was the first symptom. Got here (Iowa) and my right leg would get rigid above the knee in cold weather if I shivered.
Delivered him in 2014 and had my first bout of PPD. (That hasn't happened after the first 11 pregnancies so it was REALLY weird for this one.)
Dramatic, horrible miscarriage at 12 weeks in Dec. 2015
Another 11 week miscarriage with a D&C removal in July 2016.
Drop foot starting early fall-ish but we thought it was a bad knee - I'd had a car accident years ago and sometimes it is crabby.
Developed hyper reflexes, clonus
Cleared by the first neuro.
Second thought it was MS. Cleared that with a lumbar puncture. LP showed Lyme antibodies at 0.12 in the CSF but it isn't considered positive until greater than 0.99.

No surprise that a follow up blood test was negative.

I have fasciculations now in both legs, the abdomen, the right arm. I have muscle wasting on the right leg - calf. They are doing a repeat EMG Monday morning and we are told that ALS is on the table. They don't want to talk Lyme.

The EMG is going to be bad. The muscle wasting is readily apparent.

Here's the thing - I would like to not piddle around with various doctors and hop from place to place. I am convinced that I want a PICC line and either ceftriaxone or Rocephin, because, well, I think these critters would like to kill me. I have eleven kiddos, the baby is two, I need to get this kicked in the butt, kwim?

I'd love to hear some advice. I'm in the Midwest and have been in touch with our local Lyme group.

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   Posted 3/17/2017 7:15 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi BlsdMama!
Welcome to our community! I'm so glad you found us.

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​ To be perfectly honest, IV treatments are not any more successful than oral meds are. The main reason to use them is if your digestive system is too compromised to handle and process the oral meds. Then they may be completely necessary.

I would suggest that you skip the other doctors and make an appt to see a LLMD (Lyme Literate Medical Doctor):

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   Posted 3/17/2017 10:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Do you have any other symptoms - besides muscular in nature? Like maybe fatigue, trouble sleeping, numbness, brain fog, heart stuff, etc?

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   Posted 3/17/2017 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
ALS has been linked to dental work. If you have a lot of dental work might check it out with a biological dentist.



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   Posted 3/17/2017 2:25 PM (GMT -7)   
You totally have Lyme in my opinion.Tick bite bingo I'm so sorry honey I can imagine how frightened you must feel. TBH if ALS is on the table you will probably have to travel. They have a really good clinic in Wisconsin that has dealt with ALS-type Lyme. Besides that there's just the H center in Kansas. Besides that for als type lyme if you don't want to do a herbal protocol on your own, you would have to go east or west. Good luck start lyme treatment asap
Currently with LLMD planning on doing modified Cowden Protocol and Buhner
Switched to this route after very bad herxing on rifampin
Diagnosed with Bartonella and Lyme. Twin has Bartonella and Mycoplasma and Lyme.
Twin improving on rifampin, zithromax, and tinidazole. Anger, rage, explosivity, emotional volatility, head and bone squeezing, sense of overheatedness all improved.

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   Posted 3/17/2017 2:57 PM (GMT -7)   
Tick bite plus symptoms = Lyme disease.

Very experienced Dr. in Washington, DC...but that is a long way to travel.
I believe he does phone or skype appts. in between the in-person visits. (I know he used to)

So, you might get 6-9 months before you need to return again.

You can email me and I will send you names from my list.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

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   Posted 3/17/2017 3:46 PM (GMT -7)   

I have met ron several times at this clinic. I would not know that he has als-very kind.

If it was me I would see a biological dds-plus look into ten pass ozone and maybe run down to see this doc

PS this clinic has picture of Ron a couple years after this article dancing at his granddaughter's wedding-

Post Edited (magoo2) : 3/17/2017 7:14:10 PM (GMT-6)

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   Posted 3/17/2017 5:56 PM (GMT -7)   
My als like stuff is lyme.and bartonella..bvt and rocephin has helped...port is better for long term than picc
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