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DaveNJ41
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   Posted 6/12/2017 1:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Hey all,
I am looking for the BEST CBD product that is on the market for reducing or even eliminating inflammation, pain, killing bacteria even if it can do that.

Please post your experiences and products that you have used that have been the most effective smile.

Rikky1
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   Posted 6/12/2017 1:29 PM (GMT -7)   
Sorry Dave but I have to poke fun at you saying you want the best product. Does anyone ever want something otherwise? It's like a luxury condo. Are there any non-luxury condos? Or what about a gourmet sandwich. How about a non-gourmet sandwich? :o)

I've used Charlotte's Web very good but VERY expensive. You have to get the potent one which has the most mcg's per ml.

Are you sure your issues are inflammation? I ask because my former LLMD had me running all over the place trying to find something that lowered my inflammation (cause he said all Lyme patients have it) and it ended up not being inflammation at all but nerve related. I'd like to go to his office and kick him in the @$#$^ for making me suffer more than I needed to for so long.

Jinna
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   Posted 6/12/2017 1:33 PM (GMT -7)   
Is this cannabis or cannabidiol?

I've just been to Amsterdam, and all cannabis derived products are found on shops in touristic areas.

People smoke it in the streets too, as the smell is everywhere.

I thought of buying some, but haven't because I've been using one that feels good: it's got a code name, not sure I can talk about that openly here.

You can contact the company, it's called Vital Force Technology. They imprinted the whole plant (I think) through plasma, so that you can get all benefits without side effects.

It feels very relaxing, it's what I can say. I'm taking it for about 3-4 weeks, and enjoying it.

I no longer have lyme, but have sometimes candida, on and off. And I had arthritis, no longer lyme...

Funny thing: it is the FIRST time I used simple past for my arthritic pains!! It may mean that the pain I was getting for the last 5-6 years in my joints looks gone!!!

I used both imprinted cannabis and imprinted GcMaf. GcMaf also helped my joints (I'm still using cannabis but pulsing GcMaf on and off, as it is strong).

That is why I used and use cannabis and GcMaf (for candida and arthritis), both seem to be dormant now (like lyme)... Still knocking on wood!!!!

Post Edited (Jinna) : 6/12/2017 2:36:51 PM (GMT-6)


Girlie
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   Posted 6/12/2017 2:00 PM (GMT -7)   
Dave - I'm assuming you mean the cbd oil from hemp (not wanting marijuana) - you want the one that you don't get high from, right?


I got mine from here in BC, Canada...and they have organic products. I asked them for a source in the U.S. and now I can't find my notes on it - but I'm quite sure it was this:

/www.cwhemp.com

I believe this is the same source that Rikky posted about.

the cbd (hemp) is what the retired BC LLMD Murakami and Dr. Eva Sapi used in their research on lyme treatment.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

10LymeB
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   Posted 6/14/2017 12:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been using "Plus" CBD oil - I have regular and extra strength. They both work great and are widely available in California health food stores. I believe you can also get it online. No THC.
*42 yo - Treatment started Nov. 2016 - Bitten by mosquito in Paris 2013
* SIBO (improved) - Candida - Lyme - Babesia - Bartonella - Hashimoto's - EBV - HHV6 - Tinea Versicolor - IBS
* Mostly herbal treatment, Bryon White

trader758
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   Posted 6/14/2017 12:56 PM (GMT -7)   
Id love to try it. But, im too scared to buy it, and who knows if id pass a drug test.

Girlie
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   Posted 6/14/2017 1:09 PM (GMT -7)   
Trader - the THC amount is very very low - I guess it depends on how sensitive the tests are.

I found this:

/elixinol.com/blog/will-pass-drug-test-take-hemp-extracts/

/www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/does-using-cbd-hemp-oil-result-in-a-positive-drug-test-for-thc-or
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

TrialbyLyme
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   Posted 6/14/2017 1:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I have used the one from Ananda Apothecary and really liked it. Seemed to help for pain.
http://anandaapothecary.com/CBD-Oils/index.html

Sorry I forget how to make the link clickable.
Tick bite 1982;DX'D in 2015 with Chronic Disseminated Lyme Disease. Stage 4 Endometriosis; 7 surgeries, EBV 3 X'S, Tularemia, Chlamydia pneumonia. DX'D in 2017 with Funneliformis Mosseae Coxsackie, HHV-7. Chronic jawbone cavitations. ABX 2015, Herbs 2016, The kitchen sink 2017! :D
“There are far, far better things ahead than any we leave behind.” CS Lewis

Girlie
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   Posted 6/14/2017 1:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Clickable link:

anandaapothecary.com/CBD-Oils/index.html
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

TrialbyLyme
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   Posted 6/14/2017 1:25 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks Girlie! ;)
Tick bite 1982;DX'D in 2015 with Chronic Disseminated Lyme Disease. Stage 4 Endometriosis; 7 surgeries, EBV 3 X'S, Tularemia, Chlamydia pneumonia. DX'D in 2017 with Funneliformis Mosseae Coxsackie, HHV-7. Chronic jawbone cavitations. ABX 2015, Herbs 2016, The kitchen sink 2017! :D
“There are far, far better things ahead than any we leave behind.” CS Lewis

trader758
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   Posted 6/14/2017 4:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Girlie said...
Trader - the THC amount is very very low - I guess it depends on how sensitive the tests are.

I found this:

/elixinol.com/blog/will-pass-drug-test-take-hemp-extracts/

/www.leafly.com/news/cannabis-101/does-using-cbd-hemp-oil-result-in-a-positive-drug-test-for-thc-or


Thanks Girlie. That helps. Still worried about having it shipped. Seems theres a lot of controversy over it. Im just not sure.

Girlie
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   Posted 6/14/2017 5:37 PM (GMT -7)   
trader - I believe the cbd (hemp) is legal in almost all, if not all States.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

madisongrrl
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   Posted 6/14/2017 5:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm currently trialing a product from Blue Bird Botanicals called Hemp Classic 6x. I'm taking 10 drops a night.....but I don't like the taste so I actually prepare it in a capsule with olive oil. I just started this a few weeks ago and I'm going to try it for 6 months and see if I get any improvements.

Post Edited (madisongrrl) : 6/14/2017 7:08:48 PM (GMT-6)


Girlie
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   Posted 6/14/2017 5:48 PM (GMT -7)   
madison - are you looking for symptom relief : i.e. pain...or are you taking the cbd oil as a treatment?
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

madisongrrl
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   Posted 6/14/2017 5:49 PM (GMT -7)   
Girlie said...
madison - are you looking for symptom relief : i.e. pain...or are you taking the cbd oil as a treatment?


I'm hoping for inflammation and pain reduction only.

Girlie
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   Posted 6/14/2017 5:52 PM (GMT -7)   
madisongrrl said...
Girlie said...
madison - are you looking for symptom relief : i.e. pain...or are you taking the cbd oil as a treatment?


I'm hoping for inflammation and pain reduction only.


Keep us posted - I tried it over a year ago...was hoping it would help for pain...I actually had more pain when I was on it...but there were a few other things going on - I believe I was taking some Buhner's herbs as well...and I also had a recent cat bite...that got infected. The cat died of undiagnosed heart disease. I'm wondering if he gave me a fresh dose of bartonella before he left the world. (Maybe I'm just paranoid)

...or maybe it was hitting the lyme and co's and I was herxing.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

KB69
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   Posted 6/14/2017 5:55 PM (GMT -7)   
I use CV Sciences CBD Oil Plus. It's 5mg of Cannabidiol per serving (15 drops). The website (they're based in Las Vegas, NV) states that they distribute to health food stores and health care providers across the country.

I concur with Girlie, without the THC, it's legal -- I bought in a health food store in both NH and MA.

I use it for headaches (due to Lyme, Bart and Babs). While it's not a cure-all, it definitely numbs my pain and prevents me from having to take ibuprofen/tylenol or something stronger on a regular basis.

trader758
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   Posted 6/14/2017 8:54 PM (GMT -7)   
Girlie said...
trader - I believe the cbd (hemp) is legal in almost all, if not all States.


It may be, im not sure, as I said. All I know is the DEA made a rule recently....

/www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/schedules/marijuana/m_extract_7350.html

And there are many who have commented on it...

www.cannalawblog.com/is-cbd-legal/

hightimes.com/news/politics/dea-cbd-oil-is-not-legal-in-all-50-states/

kightoncannabis.com/has-the-dea-painted-itself-into-a-corner-on-hemp-based-cbd-a-legal-analysis-of-the-deas-current-position/


Many many more articles out there. As I said, im sot sure. Just makes me uneasy. Would love to purchase without the worry is all.

lymehater
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   Posted 6/15/2017 3:39 AM (GMT -7)   
1. cbd oil how do you know if its working
2. how do you take it without wanting to puke? the taste is awful and almost rancid?
I have tried it off and on for weeks I'm not sure I notice a difference. how do you know if inflammation has indeed gone down?
I'm so ignorant I have no clue what to look for then get discouraged.

yancync
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   Posted 6/15/2017 9:31 AM (GMT -7)   
DS's LLNP - well known LLMD practice in WDC told us the following:

They recommended trying Blue Bird or Charlotte's web. Blue Bird Botanicals has a trial pack you can buy to experiment. You need to purchase the highest concentrate of both brands to try. BBB recommends Signature Concentrated for Lyme etc if I remember correctly. CW recommends EveryDay Advanced (you have to go through a website called Realm of Caring to ask questions about products).

LLNP said to use twice daily, 15 drops under tongue for at least a month to let it build up in fat cells before you decide if you are benefiting. We chase with pomegranate juice to cut the awful taste.

DK just started last week and I'm gone so he's probably lapsed but I will post when we have info to share.

Good luck - it may appear in urine but we will try an OTC drug test and I'll post that as well. The THC has to be less than 1% for Hemp oil CBD to be legal. Some people send it to labs for independent verification. Both companies above test their oils for mold and THC levels so they say. The drug tests for THC not CBD so we'll see.
Parent of 15yo DS w/ CDC+ Lyme test 11/15, late stage Lyme + mycoplasma, bartonella, babesia. Treating with antibiotics/anti-malerials + Vit D, C, Vit B-12 injections, multivit, milk thistle, dandelion, parsley, cilantro, Burbur/Pinella, L acetyl carnitine, charcoal, mag etc.

Website I started: ParentsofLymeKids.com aka Lyme Disease 101 for Parents

Girlie
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   Posted 6/15/2017 10:51 AM (GMT -7)   
lymehater said...
1. cbd oil how do you know if its working
2. how do you take it without wanting to puke? the taste is awful and almost rancid?
I have tried it off and on for weeks I'm not sure I notice a difference. how do you know if inflammation has indeed gone down?
I'm so ignorant I have no clue what to look for then get discouraged.


1. The same as anything else we use - if we feel better - ie reduction in pain, better sleep.. etc then it's working.

2. Yup - the taste is horrible. It was suggested to me to put it under my tongue and keep it there for awhile to absorb sublingual. Horrible, horrible taste that burned my throat. I kept it up tho for several weeks.

The problem is that some people have herxes on it - it may actually be a treatment for LD

(Dr Sapi and Dr Murakami did research on it for that purpose and there are anecdotal testimonies that it has worked for several people.)
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

trader758
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   Posted 6/17/2017 5:30 AM (GMT -7)   
Well, right or wrong, I overcame my worries long enough to order. After talking to numerous people in the industry, the risk is very small atm. I ordered BlueBird Classic 6X, 50mg/ml. One of the selling points for me, which there are many, an owner spoke with me about the product helping to normalize bowel movements with IBS/IBD/Crohns/UC which before Ibwas diagnosed with Lyme and Bart I was diagnosed with IBS (predominantly constipation) that the LLMD thought to be due to gut palsy. After trying numerous products for candida and seeing no real benefits, gut paralysis seems to be the culprit. So am really hoping, besides the nerve benefits, to see some benefit for abdominal issues.

Owner assured me THC content is very minimal, and proved it by sending specific batch testing of current stock. Needless to say I was impressed and made the order right away. I didnt choose express shipping so not sure how long it will take, but I am anxious to try and will post my results as I go. It was suggestee that I stay on mino/rifampin as there should be no issues, and since I know how my bodies currently reacting I should make one chanhe at a time, this being adding only the CBD and monitor results. Thanks for this thread, sorry to hijack, but I thought to update and let you know I was given some hopeful information to calm my worries. Appreciate it!

Girlie
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   Posted 6/17/2017 8:41 AM (GMT -7)   
I hope it helps you, trader. Please keep us posted!


Good idea not to change anything (i.e. your meds) so you have a better idea on how the CBD is affecting you.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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