Bill Rawls, Buhner Protocol or Cowden protocol??

Just don't take advice from Bill on antibiotic treatment. He has some inaccurate information online.

I've read parts of Rawls book, and I am not insync with some of it. He really seems to downplay the parasites, and I think many would disagree with that. And wish the complementary options were given more attention.

The pro of Buhner is that he is not making money from selling products, and he is empowering people.
BUT - the books are so overwhelming for some who are very sick and need to piece together what herbs they need to do. Buy multiple books, read potentially hundreds of pages, and try to piece together a protocol tailored to your needs? With having brain fog and what-not? Some are able to do it, but it's a struggle for many IMO.

The pro of something like Rawls is that it combines some of that information into products. That makes it more simplified for sure. I certainly find that appealing.

If I had to do it again, I think I would have explored trying something like Bryon White or Beyond Balance with a practitioner. They are combination herbals. They don't seem to be given as much attention on this board.

We added majority of the herbals individually, and it took us forever to get up to the core protocol. I wish I would have started with a combination herbal first, and then if needed (eg we have a reaction that we are concerned about), done individuals at that point. I feel I really lost valuable time.

Of course, I know it's a slow race for this battle. But I felt like we lost way too much time starting off doing the herbals individually. I definitely find the combination herbals to be more appealing in hindsight now.

Hi PeteZa and 1000 Daisies,

I agree with both of you. Buhner Healing Lyme was the first book I read. It was the middle of winter and I was feeling extremely ill. I was not able to successfully put together any kind of protocol. I needed someone to put a combination of herbals together for me and protect my gut in the process. Maybe that's Bill Rawls. I'm not sure obviously because I've never tried his protocol.

I have had a Chinese medicine specialist work with me on gut restoration. He's also trying to use acupuncture and herbals to reignite my immune system. I'm certainly not well, but I am better after two months of treatment. I have enough interest and confidence in him that I've scheduled him to be the next speaker for our Richmond Virginia Lyme Group. He uses prepared combination medicines or herbs that he mixed and gives me in a small jar to take with warm water.

The bottom line is that it took me almost 6 months of changes and rearranges to put any kind of protocol together. I wish I had started with something like Bill Rawls, so that I could have built on a foundation that was already laid.

Thanks for your comments, Aylett

1000Daisies said...
I personally think the right protocol for an individual is the one that works for them.

True!

Aylett said...

Girlie said...
Just don't take advice from Bill on antibiotic treatment. He has some inaccurate information online.

Hi Girlie,

I'm interested to hear what you think is inaccurate on his website, if you don't mind sharing that information with us.

Thanks Aylett

" Ehrlichia, anaplasma, and rickettsia. These microbes have a higher potential to cause severe disease and less likelihood of chronic disease after treatment of the initial infection. When chronic disease does occur, it is generally characterized by long asymptomatic periods with the microbe hidden in isolated locations in the body (months, years) followed by relapse of acute symptoms (high fever, chills, headache, muscle ache, etc.). Relapses should be treated like an initial infection with doxycycline 100 mg twice daily for 30 days or until 3 days after symptoms subside."

Doxy 100 mg twice daily for 30 days isn't enough for acute symptoms or a relapse.

"Doxycycline covers for borrelia and coinfections except babesia. Other antibiotics can be added at the discretion of the healthcare provider."

This is not true. Doxy alone will not be effective for bartonella.

"Whether a single antibiotic or combination antibiotics are used, therapy should only extend for 30 days or until symptoms resolve. "

30 days is never enough time for a chronic infection.

"Clindamycin, an antibiotic commonly prescribed for Lyme disease coinfections, should never be used orally. Clindamycin is commonly associated with overgrowth of Clostridium difficile in the gut. Overgrowth of C. diff. causes severe bloody diarrhea often requiring hospitalization."

Many LLMD's use Clindamycin for Babesia treatment. We have members on this forum who have had good results with Clindamycin.


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Hi, This is my first post. I started the Rawls protocol in March 0f 2017, 4 bottles in the "vital Plan". Within 2 months I was feeling better, at 6 months I felt 95% normal. I mistakely cut the herbs in half and then got lazy with taking them everyday. I had a relapse about 2 months ago and am now back on. I have all of Buhner and Rawls books, all awsome. I was going to follow Buhner originally and it go to complecated for me. Rawls was 12 pills in the morning 12 with supper, not complicated. I cannot think clearly sometimes. AFter comparing the two protocol, they are very similiar. Rawls credits Buhner many times in book etc. I truly beleive Dr. Rawls has our best interest in the forefront. His staff is amazing and answers all my questions. For me the program is amazing, emails every week with topic and suggestions and a survey every 30 days with a symptom test to see if you are improving. I cannot recommend it more highly.
That, being said, I am sure in saying there is more than one way to go about taking natural herbs for Lymes and get results. I hope it works for me again.

Breif History: Positive Lymes by Igenes, Negative CDC in 2015. Have not idea when I got Lymes, I live in Minnesota and have picked many a dear ticks off. Very ill, (fatigue - migrating body pain) at Mayo in 2016 - diagnosed with Fibro & Chronic Fat. (where they put you if they cannot figure it out)

Thank You PeteZa. I will do that. Hopefully that time comes. Are you healed from Buhner's protocol? I see that his main herbs are the same as Rawls. I looked up Cowden and they are very different. I hope I picked the best one for me, it is very expensive, about $250 a month and I expect I will be on for quite awhile.

One big difference between Buhner and Rawls:

Buhner has separate protocols for lyme, bart, babs, mycoplasma...etc.


I don't see anything to specifically target the co-infections in particular (Rawls)

Patty, I started on Beyond Balance and just loved it. I just got super impatient and decided to add in Buhner's protocol. Beyond Balance is a combo of herbs and it is non alcoholic tinctures. I can't rave about it enough.

However, Buhner's core protocol was just a super addition. I tested each herb of Buhner's core protocol one by one and there were two that really made me sicker. I eliminated those and just figured I could always come back to them later.

I healed without using those herbs. I just guess they were not right for my body.

Hugs to you,

Annette

You are not bugging me at all!!! Most people call it Lyme Disease or Lyme. Lyme disease gets its name from a small coastal town in Connecticut called Lyme. In 1975, a woman brought an unusual cluster of pediatric arthritis cases to the attention of Yale researchers. In 1977, the Yale researchers identified and named the clusters “Lyme arthritis."

You can call Beyond Balance and tell them where you live and they will direct you to a doctor that is close. I bought from my doctor but eventually he gave me his ID number and I used it and bought directly through Beyond Balance.

I hope it works for you like it did for me. Just remember we are all different and we all have to find out what works for us individually. That is because lyme is so individual in the symptoms. Hubby and I had very different symptoms. His worse symptom was tinnitus. Mine was the head pain or headaches. Mine could have been lymph but I didn't really care as long as it went away. I had head pain for a long time and cried and cried because nothing helped it, even narcotics.