the consensus of the apitherapy society feels that most of the venom is out within 3-5 min. ellie lobel uses california bees and leaves for 15 20 ..i think this is good for types of honeybees who's venom may not be as "hot" ..for instance comparatively ..our mountain Russians i could on stand 12 full and 15 sets where as with the carniolians i once did 22 full stings . the heat i feel depends on species , diet , environment and time of year. the only trouble with lobel style is that once the swelling sets in digging the tip of the stinger can be a little bit of a pain. dose imo unlike ellie minions - is dependent on size of patient , length of illness(and seriousness) , coinfections , tolerance ,whether supportive accupucture points are used and a great many other factors (iceing or not ).
to address the gut thing from way back additional herbs and antiparsiticals were needed to help my gut but propolis and rife was used
keep us posted gabybee on your progress ..are you self stinging now? and i got a gut guy if you need