Hot breath/warm mouth, not burning

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BabsBunny
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   Posted 8/7/2017 4:10 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm trying to figure out what this is but google searches keep turning up "burning tongue" or "metallic taste" and I don't have that.

I simply feel like my mouth is very warm. Like a fire is smoldering in my throat somewhere and the hot fumes are rising up into my mouth. No taste, no burning, just very warm air feeling. I call it dragon breath, I swear I could breathe smoke. I keep opening my mouth to let fresh air in, it feels like a swamp.

Is this be a type of heartburn/ acid reflux? Candida? Medication? Lyme?babs?

It happens seemingly randomly but today it's quite persistent. Noticed after eating lunch and again dinner, and it hasn't subsided. Didn't eat anything crazy.

As far as Acid reflux: I had some lemon juice but it didn't help (the other remedies of ACV and baking soda (not together!) are not in the cupboard.)

as for Candida- there is no white film on my tongue, however I'm constantly battling yeast infections despite all over 100 billion probiotics / day.

I'm abroad right now so I can't get a doctor or run tests, or even get most pharmaceuticals. I don't like to take OTC stuff anyway because no one ever knows if they react with the gazillion supplements I take. I'm looking for home remedies. I'll get some ACV and baking tomorrow, as per the usual heartburn fix, and await your opinions.

I haven't recently changed my protocol or diet so I don't know why this is happening. currently on Amoxycillion, Mepron, zithromax, if that helps.

Sorry if this post is weird, I literally fell asleep 5 times writing it. Jet lag!

Thanks!
~Babs
Lyme and Babesia acquired in April 2016

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goshawk
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   Posted 8/7/2017 5:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi Im not sure what it is, but if it just began after traveling to some where new..I would eliminate things to see if that's the cause, like the water, different cleaners/chemicals your being exposed to, perfumes/soaps etc.

It also could be from Lyme and co I experienced strange electric/tingling type sensation in mouth and lips before. I have pretty warm heat flushes also.

I know its not the same as what you are describing but some weird things can an do occur from Lyme and co.

Sorry I wish I could have been more helpful. Take care, Jo
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goshawk
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   Posted 8/7/2017 5:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I found this link sounds similar

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/digestive-disorders/224125-hot-breath-mouth-something-beside-acid.html

maybe some help there.
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dacarte3
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   Posted 8/7/2017 6:47 PM (GMT -6)   
Is it different than simply low grade fever? When I have one, my breath is hotter when I breathe, that's how I notice it's happening.
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Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Dec. 2016

07/2017: Enjoyed a good 6 months symptom free. Relapsed. Back on herbs and abx.

BabsBunny
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   Posted 8/8/2017 3:51 AM (GMT -6)   
goshawk said...
I found this link sounds similar

http://www.healthboards.com/boards/digestive-disorders/224125-hot-breath-mouth-something-beside-acid.html

maybe some help there.


That's exactly what it sounds like, I found this page and all I saw was "yeah I have that too, no one knows what it is." The conclusion was GERD, so I guess I look up remedies for that.

Did I mention i hate Lyme Disease?

BabsBunny
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   Posted 8/8/2017 3:58 AM (GMT -6)   
goshawk said...
Hi Im not sure what it is, but if it just began after traveling to some where new..I would eliminate things to see if that's the cause, like the water, different cleaners/chemicals your being exposed to, perfumes/soaps etc.

It also could be from Lyme and co I experienced strange electric/tingling type sensation in mouth and lips before. I have pretty warm heat flushes also.

I know its not the same as what you are describing but some weird things can an do occur from Lyme and co.

Sorry I wish I could have been more helpful. Take care, Jo


It started a while ago, but it was usually just short and temporary. Now it's constant. I'm sure the nerves of traveling and a messed up schedule and eating habits for a day of traveling didn't help, but I was definitely getting weird symptoms before traveling. Making me even more nervous to leave the country while dealing with new symptoms, causing even more stress and even more symptoms. cry

For what it's worth, the flight was great and I even felt amazing my first few hours on the ground and totally excited. Now the Dragon Breath and subsequent panicking is taking over.

Go away, Lyme. I didn't invite you here.

John765
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   Posted 1/22/2018 8:31 AM (GMT -6)   
BabsBunny said...

It started a while ago, but it was usually just short and temporary. Now it's constant. I'm sure the nerves of traveling and a messed up schedule and eating habits for a day of traveling didn't help, but I was definitely getting weird symptoms before traveling. Making me even more nervous to leave the country while dealing with new symptoms, causing even more stress and even more symptoms. cry

For what it's worth, the flight was great and I even felt amazing my first few hours on the ground and totally excited. Now the Dragon Breath and subsequent panicking is taking over.

Go away, Lyme. I didn't invite you here.


dear BabsBunny,
so how did it went? Have you been diagnosed with Borrelia infection?? I have totally similar symptoms (feeling of warmer breath than I would usually have). I typically have this feeling right before I get ill (flu), but this time it stays for months. Doctors dont recognize nothing such as warm breath, they use only body temperature as a valid symptom. So I struggle to figure out what it might be, because I know I do not have such a warm breath when I am healthy.
Sould I consider Lyme disease then? But wouldnt we notice the classic bulls-eye rash if that what the case of Lyme disease?

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/22/2018 9:41 AM (GMT -6)   
Babs,

I haven't had this and don't know what it is, but I have had some weird mouth symptoms in the past that I couldn't find answers for. One was burning lips. They would even look red and swollen. That may have been from mold exposure, though I'm not sure, as it happened shortly before I left my moldy house.

When my Lyme symptoms first started, for a long time after that, I used to get a salty taste in my mouth. Even my tongue and saliva tasted salty. I would drink massive amounts of water and avoid salty foods trying to get rid of it. To this day, I have no explanation for that one.

BabsBunny
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   Posted 1/22/2018 10:16 AM (GMT -6)   
This symptom comes and goes, and I’ve bern having it lately.

I take an acid reducer (store brand Pepcid AC maximum strength) and it stops, so I guess it’s just a weird kind of acid reflux.

I have Lyme, Babs, Bart, Candida, and struggling with what is probably leaky gut and possibly a mast cell disorder. Current protocol adds H1 blocker, H2 blocker, mast cell stabilizer (Quercetin and Nettles) and trying to choose a low-histamine diet (SIGHI list for now) but cross reference it with a Candida diet and gut healing protocol. Basically I can’t eat anything unless I go to the barn and slaughter it myself then consume within 30 minutes.

Beyond frustrated with this whole mess.
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

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BabsBunny
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   Posted 1/22/2018 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
John765 said...


dear BabsBunny,
so how did it went? Have you been diagnosed with Borrelia infection?? I have totally similar symptoms (feeling of warmer breath than I would usually have). I typically have this feeling right before I get ill (flu), but this time it stays for months. Doctors dont recognize nothing such as warm breath, they use only body temperature as a valid symptom. So I struggle to figure out what it might be, because I know I do not have such a warm breath when I am healthy.
Sould I consider Lyme disease then? But wouldnt we notice the classic bulls-eye rash if that what the case of Lyme disease?


Welcome to the forum, John.

If this is your only symptom, I'm guessing it's acid reflux, which could be due to any number of factors - a food sensitivity, intolerance, GERD, leaky gut, Candida, etc. It's not specific to Lyme, in fact, I don't believe mine is directly caused by the Lyme, but rather the imbalance of gut bacteria and acid from antibiotics and the subsequent leaky gut and Candida.

The bullseye rash does not always appear - official CDC quote is 20-30% of cases, but some specialists believe the bullseye is missing in 70% of cases, which is why so many people don't even know they have Lyme.

If you have other symptoms, please read the New to Lyme thread sticky-posted at the top of the forum. If its just the acid reflux, I personally recommend an elimination diet to find the cause, rather than chronic use of medication.

best twitches wishes,
Babs
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

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