Desperate for answer.... Has anyone gotten very sick/terrible herx from Rife?

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Evanston1
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   Posted 9/4/2017 2:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi everyone.

I am really struggling. I need some feedback from those of you who have experience with rife. I bought a DougCoil and started rifing on August 21. Prior to that, I had been doing really well considering where I came from. I wasn't perfect, but I was significantly better. If I had to, I could live like that the rest of my life without too many complaints.

After a week and a half of slowly working up the amount of time doing just the Baronella frequency, I started experiencing my initial symptoms I had one year ago: started with foot/shin pain, then stabbing headache, then loss of appetite, then pain in hip joint, then pain in butt muscles, then increased fever. And now today my left cheek went number and now my legs feel like there is a cell phone vibrating under my skin.

I have not had any of these symptoms for months and months.

Is this normal!?!?!? I certainly expected to feel worse, but I did not expect a resurgence of all my old, very scary symptoms.

It makes me want to stop the rife. I feel like it is making things 100000 times worse.

Is it possible that Rife is waking up all these things that have been hanging out inside me that have finally gone dormant? If so, I want to stop the rife. I want them all to go back to sleep just like chicken pox had done. I want dormant.

Please share any knowledge or experience you might have. Thank you!!!

jennydancingpotato
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   Posted 9/4/2017 3:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Usually this happens when cysts start breaking open and bacteria that was hiding begins to be destroyed. But no it doesn't mean you want to make them hide, as over time that can cause tumors and bone degeneration and any surgery or stressful incident will make them come roaring out again. Your response is normal for starting a new treatment usually the first herx is horrific. You just need to take it more slowly
Diagnosed with lyme and bartonella July 2016.
Currently on Cowden Protocol.
CD-57 score of 14 from July 2016.
Igenex pending

RedLabel
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   Posted 9/5/2017 3:43 AM (GMT -6)   
Sorry, I have never used rife but it sounds like what people call herxing yes. I wouldn't know as I have yet to experience a herx.
I understand that you want to quit, but if you are herxing it means the buggers are still there, and will probably come out sooner or later. Is rifing the only treatment you are on currently?

Where did you buy your rife machine? Is it expensive?
Lyme, CPN, Yersinia, Coxsackie, CMV and Bartonella after LLMD visit.
CD57 of 0

Started treatment in May 2017

ArtAngel
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   Posted 9/5/2017 4:12 AM (GMT -6)   
I had big herxes with rifing. The plus side is that it is working you are killing off the bugs. The minus side is the herx is aweful. You need to pace yourself and bring it down to a tolerable level. Too much will make you very sick. Herxes need to be mild, to moderate and you need to take some breaks in between so your body can work to clear stuff out. Just cut down on the frequency of the treatment sessions.

Evanston1
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   Posted 9/5/2017 7:45 AM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for your responses.

Most of the symptoms of the herx I can totally deal with: fatigue, fever, foot pain, muscle pain. The ones that totally freak me out and feel unbearable are when my cheek turns numb or my legs start giving out again.

I thought I was long past those issues. Haven't had that in almost a full year.... until I started the rife machine. So it has been really scary.

REDLABEL- to answer your questions.... I am on Cowden protocol after 6 months of antibiotics. And then I developed c diff from antibiotics and can only take herbs from here on out. The rife machine was expensive. about $2300. But.... I am sick and two of my three little kids were also bit by ticks last summer and they have been sick, too. So I figured that in the end, if the rife works... it will actually be my cheapest fix to getting better. Between the three of us being sick, we are already about $70000 in the hole.

I am happy to answer any questions you have about the rife machine. I am no expert. Just started on August 21. I am using the Doug Coil.... which is apparently the mac daddy of rife machines.

Loutucky
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   Posted 9/5/2017 8:03 AM (GMT -6)   
Evanston1, I have used a GB4000 with mopa in the past. When I had first started using it, I was rifing bart and lyme. I had just come off a year of antibiotics. I increased my times tremendously over 3 months because the herx was not bad. Thought it was easy.

Around 3.5 months after stopping the antibiotics, I guess things came out of hiding and I began having the worst herxes ever. Worse than the disease symptoms themselves. I greatly reduced times but not frequency and still felt awful.

I quit rifing because I got scared and didn't realize that I needed to lower how often I rifed. I was rifing way to often and not giving my body time to clear the herx.

Good luck. I wish I had not quit and may try it again in the future.

Evanston1
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   Posted 9/6/2017 7:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Loutucky-- once you stopped rifing, how long did it take for your symptoms to calm down?

I am trying to hang in there and I have reduced my time a lot. The person who is a "rife" expert strongly recommends that I do not stop entirely. Although, I really want to. I honestly feel like I am the sickest I've ever been. And I am very tough so that says a lot.

What I really need is to know that there is a light at the end of the tunnel. I need to know is rife is b.s. or if its legit. If I knew that this was part of the process, then I can continue on. Its just the not knowing with all of this.... its the worst.

sebreg
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   Posted 9/7/2017 12:27 AM (GMT -6)   
I did a few lyme frequency sessions. I didn't feel too much. But then I did the bartonella sequences and it felt like I got hit by a freight train for about 5-7 days from that session. It was brutal and I was surprised as heck. I was not expecting such a monster herx (it drew out a lot of my older symptoms as well). I hadn't had a herx of that magnitude in a really long time. I had been a bit skeptical of the rife machine until that point but when I felt that herx it turned me into a believer.

I would try and take a few days off (even week) till you can regain some baseline and recover from the herx. Then restart but do shorter sessions and spread them out, ie do once a week if that is all you can manage now, or 2-3 times, whatever it is you can do without running yourself into the ground. Your tolerance should build and at that point you could start looking at increasing session length and session amounts. There is no shame in doing very short amounts if that is all that is tolerated initially. Of course for me my impatience tends to get the better of me! I try and mix up the frequencies, I can def tolerate a lot more at this point. I've been rifing for about 4-5 months now, I like it as an adjunct therapy for my case.

Post Edited (sebreg) : 9/6/2017 11:32:40 PM (GMT-6)


Loutucky
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   Posted 9/7/2017 5:33 AM (GMT -6)   
Evanston1, it took me a couple weeks to calm down and I was detoxing during that time. I was doing epsom salt baths and taking a couple charcoal capsules every two days.

I think if I would have not completely stopped and started over much much slower I would be better off than I am today.

sebreg
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   Posted 9/7/2017 6:02 PM (GMT -6)   
Just a random observation with the bcx ultra. I usually sit when I do the sessions, but this time I stood (there are footplates and wands) and it seemed like the current really pushes much more strongly throughout my body when I am standing. Sure enough the herx I felt was pretty nasty. I was doing the same levels and session-types as before, but standing seems to have increased the effectiveness. Maybe standing and having my feet be more connected and more anchored to the plates because of standing bodyweight pressure increases effectiveness...

Anyone else ever notice anything like this? prob depends on the machines (I know not all have footplates). I've only ever used the bcx ultra so I can't really speak to the other machines.

Ruey
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   Posted 3/27/2018 4:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi- I know this thread is a few months old, but I purchased a Doug Coil and started coiling several weeks ago.

I only started at a minute each session, but each time I coil the next day I am in so much pain. All my organs seem to hurt too and a couple times I got intense flu like symptoms, chills and extremely achy all over.

Now I am a little concerned. Am I doing more damage to my body by coiling or is this just the dye off of the bugs.

How have you made out since you started coiling? Has the pain you were experiencing subsided? Please post an update.

Thanks.

Lapis_29
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   Posted 3/27/2018 7:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Ruey said...
Hi- I know this thread is a few months old, but I purchased a Doug Coil and started coiling several weeks ago.

I only started at a minute each session, but each time I coil the next day I am in so much pain. All my organs seem to hurt too and a couple times I got intense flu like symptoms, chills and extremely achy all over.

Now I am a little concerned. Am I doing more damage to my body by coiling or is this just the dye off of the bugs.

How have you made out since you started coiling? Has the pain you were experiencing subsided? Please post an update.

Thanks.


what frequencies are you using?

Ruey
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   Posted 3/28/2018 2:40 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm using 432 for Lyme and I believe 832 for Bartonella.

I hadn't coiled for 10 days so today I tried to lower the amps to 7 instead of 14 for one minute. I will see how I feel later. Not sure if 7 amps will kill anything or not?

Thanks

Lapis_29
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   Posted 3/28/2018 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
I would use only one frequency at a time, to determine if that speciifc frequency is helping or hurting.

432 has a good track record for lyme, so i would just use that freq and see how you respond, then use only 832 for a couple days and see how you respond to that.

meanwhile i alway recommend using the DNA targetted frequencies as these have been the ones that have helped me the most.



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