Can a pathogen living within a biofilm be dormant? Does the real estate make a difference?
Here is an interesting discussion about
that very question regarding viruses and EBV. I'm not sure we ever reached a solid conclusion but generally, I think the EBV IgG vs IgM is also not entirely consistent with other infections. I think you can have IgG EBV antibodies with current flare or reactivated EBV. I just don't think the typical rules make a lot of sense based on what many patients who know their bodies and manifestations of EBV (like me) are actually experiencing. Many of us have had MDs tell us our very obvious EBV sx are probably not EBV since the IgM is normal. I think it's more complicated than that.
And more info on EBV:
I LOVE the Beyond Balance IMNV-II and III (they have several herbs)
Oil of oregano
(there are many other herbs that have anti-viral properties)
Epstein-Barr virus (EBV) has been one of the infectious candidates implicated in RA for several years. In 2004, Balandraud et al .[8**] summarized the present knowledge of the poor control of EBV infection in patients with chronic RA. The patients have higher levels of anti-EBV antibodies than do healthy control individuals. In addition, EBV-specific cytotoxic T cell function, which is needed for the control of the chronic
infection, is defective in patients with RA; this probably causes the
increased viral load observed in the patients. There is no good evidence in favor of the primary infection as a trigger of subsequent RA.
The authors concluded, however, that on the basis of the above-mentioned immune aberrations, EBV would be a good candidate to trigger chronic immune complex disease. In fact, in a cohort of 45 patients with recent-onset RA, the patients produced increased quantities of immunoglobulins when their peripheral blood lymphocytes were stimulated by EBV in vitro .
The enhanced response to EBV predicted the development of joint destruction (erosions) in the patients during the subsequent 2-year follow-up. This is indirect evidence of an abnormal response to EBV, and in the case of EBV infection in a patient during the incubation phase of RA, this would be an indicator of a more persistent and destructive form of arthritis.most common cause of hypothyroidism in the U.S.
Cytomegalovirus, EBV, and parvovirus B19 have been observed to persist in a latent form in the synovial fluid and synovial tissue of patients with RA and psoriatic arthritis, but less frequently in those with reactive arthritis (ReA).[11*,12]
The authors interpreted this as further evidence of a primary role of these viruses in autoimmune arthritis. Another explanation for the
persistence of viral antigens in the inflamed synovium was suggested by Stahl et al ., who presented evidence of the presence of single or multiple viruses (cytomegalovirus, EBV, herpes simplex virus, parvovirus B19) in the synovial fluid or synovial tissue of patients with various forms of early arthritides, irrespective of the diagnosis. In the few trauma patients who were examined, no viruses were detected ( Table 2 ).
Thus, a very logical explanation might be that the circulating inflammatory cells harboring the viral DNA of persisting viruses migrate as innocent bystanders into the inflamed synovium.report suggests a causal association with Hashimoto’s thyroiditis, the Other herpesvirus infections have previously been associated with acute arthritis. Varicella zoster virus has been demonstrated in the joint fluid in a patient with acute arthritis associated with chicken pox, and cytomegalovirus in the synovial fluid of a patient with acute shoulder
arthritis after kidney transplantation.[14,15] HHV-6A is the least commonly detected human herpes virus. A recent XXXXX(sorry - incomplete)www.medscape.com/viewarticle/507250_2
There are a couple of products that test well against EBV and other viruses but nothing completely remedies it on her machine except the imprinted drops (frequencies put in a drainage remedy similar to a mild rife effect).
Lysine is very helpful as is a product called Total VirX. BioPure's Viressence is also helpful. American Neutriceuticals' I plex is anti
imflammatory and tests well against RA and EBV. www.greatdanelady.com/articles/systemic_yeast_infections_in_humans.htmwww.brightsurf.com/news/headlines/33784/Epstein-Barr_a_virtual_look_at_a_vexing_virus.htmlwww.stopthethyroidmadness.com/2010/06/27/be-aware-of-the-epstein-barr-virus/
EBV is hard on the liver, candida thrives on a weak liver
And I'm not sure of the context within which you're asking the question, but getting virus titers under control is VERY important for Lyme & Co tx - it's pretty tough for the immune system to be available for Lyme if it's overwhelmed by high viral loads. I had a significant shift in my tx when I got on the right antiviral and the right doses.
Always - if you're taking antiviral Rx, please also protect liver/kidneys with milk thistle seed and/or burdock root. For those who are sensitive to those herbs, there are good liver cleanses you can do.
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