new Johns Hopkins study on oil of oregano in lyme

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sebreg
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   Posted 10/12/2017 5:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Lapis_29 said...
1000Daisies said...
I have it in my cupboard, and I've been hesitant to use it. Ingesting oils is sooooo controversial. So, it sits in my cupboard until I change my mind. : |

I've used olive leaf extract previously, as I've read how powerful it is. It did nothing for me. (Neither did monolaurin/lauricidin.)


olive leaf is more affective against virus than bacteria.

again, try the dmso method if you are shy to consumer EO's


I can't say for certain but based on how I respond I feel like the Olive Leaf Extract I'm taking hits my bart/blo. It seems very effective for my case. Par for the course with the lyme+ puzzle, what works for one person might not work for another. I don't feel much benefit from the lauricidin, maybe it can potentially work as a hedge against fungal infection and curbing some viral loads?...

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   Posted 10/12/2017 5:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Girlie said...
Lapis_29 said...
Missouri said...
Where do you source DSMO? What is the best brand? Is there a particular type you recommend? Thanks


yes, do NOT get the brand with the tree on the label. full of contaminants, bad company should be sued into oblivion.

www.dmsostore.com

thats the best, legit Pharma grade dmso. they also sell on amazon.


Lapis - you know there are contaminants in that brand? That's the one my husband uses now.


yes, I know for 2 reasons.

one, it has a smell to it, pharma grade DMSO smells like nothing. no scent whatsoever. that means they did not process all of the industrial contaminants out of it.

two, its in the wrong plastic container. they use polycarbonate number 7 plastic, DMSO can dissolve some of the plastic or components in the plastic and take this plastic into your body. The only safe plastics for dmso are number 1, 2, 4, 5 or glass.

Lapis_29
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   Posted 10/12/2017 6:01 PM (GMT -7)   
sebreg said...
Lapis_29 said...
1000Daisies said...
I have it in my cupboard, and I've been hesitant to use it. Ingesting oils is sooooo controversial. So, it sits in my cupboard until I change my mind. : |

I've used olive leaf extract previously, as I've read how powerful it is. It did nothing for me. (Neither did monolaurin/lauricidin.)


olive leaf is more affective against virus than bacteria.

again, try the dmso method if you are shy to consumer EO's


I can't say for certain but based on how I respond I feel like the Olive Leaf Extract I'm taking hits my bart/blo. It seems very effective for my case. Par for the course with the lyme+ puzzle, what works for one person might not work for another. I don't feel much benefit from the lauricidin, maybe it can potentially work as a hedge against fungal infection and curbing some viral loads?...


yes olive leaf would be good again Babs since babs is a parasite and olive leaf is anti-parasitic. it just isn't very affective against lyme itself.

Girlie
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   Posted 10/12/2017 6:04 PM (GMT -7)   
Lapis_29 said...
Girlie said...
Lapis_29 said...
Missouri said...
Where do you source DSMO? What is the best brand? Is there a particular type you recommend? Thanks


yes, do NOT get the brand with the tree on the label. full of contaminants, bad company should be sued into oblivion.

www.dmsostore.com

thats the best, legit Pharma grade dmso. they also sell on amazon.


Lapis - you know there are contaminants in that brand? That's the one my husband uses now.


yes, I know for 2 reasons.

one, it has a smell to it, pharma grade DMSO smells like nothing. no scent whatsoever. that means they did not process all of the industrial contaminants out of it.

two, its in the wrong plastic container. they use polycarbonate number 7 plastic, DMSO can dissolve some of the plastic or components in the plastic and take this plastic into your body. The only safe plastics for dmso are number 1, 2, 4, 5 or glass.


Are you talking about smelling it from the bottle..or the smell you get yourself after using it?
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Lapis_29
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   Posted 10/12/2017 6:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Girlie said...
Lapis_29 said...
Girlie said...
Lapis_29 said...
Missouri said...
Where do you source DSMO? What is the best brand? Is there a particular type you recommend? Thanks


yes, do NOT get the brand with the tree on the label. full of contaminants, bad company should be sued into oblivion.

www.dmsostore.com

thats the best, legit Pharma grade dmso. they also sell on amazon.


Lapis - you know there are contaminants in that brand? That's the one my husband uses now.


yes, I know for 2 reasons.

one, it has a smell to it, pharma grade DMSO smells like nothing. no scent whatsoever. that means they did not process all of the industrial contaminants out of it.

two, its in the wrong plastic container. they use polycarbonate number 7 plastic, DMSO can dissolve some of the plastic or components in the plastic and take this plastic into your body. The only safe plastics for dmso are number 1, 2, 4, 5 or glass.


Are you talking about smelling it from the bottle..or the smell you get yourself after using it?


from the bottle

after a week or so it starts to smell weird. pharma grade never smells at all, ever

Girlie
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   Posted 10/12/2017 6:33 PM (GMT -7)   
My husband has two bottles - one almost empty - the Tree of Life container was #2 plastic.
It was the almost empty one - no smell - but maybe there wasn't enough in there.

The other one - did have an odor - can't remember the brand name though...
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Girlie
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   Posted 10/12/2017 6:53 PM (GMT -7)   
You know - I just thought it was supposed to smell because it's a byproduct of the Kraft pulping process.
And, living in a pulp and paper mill town...I know how stinky the kraft pulp is...so assumed it might be smelly.

hmmm...I'll have to remember to talk to my husband about this.

BTW - I read one article that said it can cause cancer. Veterinarians use it on horses - but because they don't live as long as us...it's not a worry.

Is that fake news?
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Lapis_29
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   Posted 10/12/2017 7:07 PM (GMT -7)   
Girlie said...
You know - I just thought it was supposed to smell because it's a byproduct of the Kraft pulping process.
And, living in a pulp and paper mill town...I know how stinky the kraft pulp is...so assumed it might be smelly.

hmmm...I'll have to remember to talk to my husband about this.

BTW - I read one article that said it can cause cancer. Veterinarians use it on horses - but because they don't live as long as us...it's not a worry.

Is that fake news?


on another forum I am on a Doctor posts who uses IV DMSO to treat just about anything, including cancer.

it potentiates chemotherapy, thus making it more affecitve and you need less chemo which makes it less toxic.

so, no I have never seen any evidence it causes cancer.

Missouri
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   Posted 10/13/2017 9:02 AM (GMT -7)   
Lapis- I'm ordering some today. Do you get the glas jars of liquid or the little can of cream or the roll on stick thingy?

I am currently using testosterone cream and wonder if DSMO can potentiate it as well as the other benefits.

Lapis_29
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   Posted 10/13/2017 9:40 AM (GMT -7)   
Missouri said...
Lapis- I'm ordering some today. Do you get the glas jars of liquid or the little can of cream or the roll on stick thingy?

I am currently using testosterone cream and wonder if DSMO can potentiate it as well as the other benefits.


i get the liquid in glass, its the most potent. but all their products are good.

be careful when adding dmso to anything! start slow and be cautious.

skin irritation is common, last about 30 minutes or so. sometimes skin gets dry, use vit E/ aloe on it.

Mergirl
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   Posted 1/5/2018 3:43 PM (GMT -7)   
I know this thread is a few months old but can someone tell me what DMSO is? Also how to take it with oregano oil? I'm assuming I can take this with the other herbs and supps I'm taking?

I was taking oregano oil for a while and ran out and would like to order more now. Can someone recommend a good brand? I was taking Helena of Zane I believe it's called or something similar.

Thanks.

Girlie
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   Posted 1/5/2018 4:38 PM (GMT -7)   
Mergirl said...
I know this thread is a few months old but can someone tell me what DMSO is? Also how to take it with oregano oil? I'm assuming I can take this with the other herbs and supps I'm taking?

I was taking oregano oil for a while and ran out and would like to order more now. Can someone recommend a good brand? I was taking Helena of Zane I believe it's called or something similar.

Thanks.


DMSO is a by-product of the pulping (pulp and paper) process.
But, it is known to have some health benefits.

I became familiar with it many years ago - around 2000 or 2001 when my husband read about it and used it for his back injury he sustained in a car accident.
He has since used it for other issues. One was a tendon injury (below his right knee).
He swears by it.

BUT, he doesn't take it internally...just topically uses it.

www.dmso.org/articles/information/muir.htm

It is known in the Veterinary world - used on horses.

I don't know how to take it with the oregano oil. Make sure if you do use it topically that the area it's going on, as well as any utensils used are clean. It will carry anything through your skin into the blood stream.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

MistyLaird
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   Posted 1/5/2018 6:47 PM (GMT -7)   
I bought a boatload from dsmostore.com, and have been using it myself before I give it to my husband. The demo is by pure, no smell at all. I even put it on my face... The description of a sunburn like feeling is pretty spot on, but it only lasted a few minutes on me. (Others have said 20-30 minutes.). Make sure area is clean first and dry. If you want to dilute it, use distilled water. This was all the advice i found here and other places.

I still haven't taken it orally yet, but will be with the oil of oregano.

LymeSick 🌟
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   Posted 1/5/2018 6:58 PM (GMT -7)   
How does one use DMSO?

Could you use it with powdered herbs?

Like what if you put Japanese Knotweed powder on your leg, and then pour DMSO on it, would that work?

Girlie
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   Posted 1/5/2018 7:00 PM (GMT -7)   
LymeSick 🌟 said...
How does one use DMSO?

Could you use it with powdered herbs?

Like what if you put Japanese Knotweed powder on your leg, and then pour DMSO on it, would that work?


I don't think it would be used that way. When I tried it topically - it was for a symptom, not to treat lyme disease (I didn't know I had LD at the time)

Some people are taking the DMSO orally.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

Tsak11
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   Posted 1/6/2018 8:20 PM (GMT -7)   
Check out Global Healing Center products. Intramax has fantastic reviews. Multivitamin and supplements all in one. You'll be surprised to see all the stuff they packed in this. Videos and explanations out there with reviews to substantiate the product. They also sell Oregatrex which is a combo of Mediterranean oregano oil, olive oil, peppermint oil, and cayenne oil. All organic.

Mergirl
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   Posted 1/7/2018 2:47 PM (GMT -7)   
Thanks everyone, some good info.


Does anyone know how to use it orally with OoO? Also, does anyone know if the brand of oregano oil I mentioned is a good one to use?

Tsak11, that brand sounds interesting. Going to check it out. Thanks.

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   Posted 1/7/2018 4:16 PM (GMT -7)   
Does Oil of Oregono cross the BB?

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   Posted 1/8/2018 5:43 AM (GMT -7)   
Woodduck12 said...
Does Oil of Oregono cross the BB?


nobody really knows anything about in vivo tests with herbs. Anecdotally it is thought carvacrol crosses the BBB.


"Carvacrol likely crosses the blood–brain barrier (BBB) in neonatal mice because administering carvacrol intraperitoneally at 2 h after reperfusion showed the neuroprotective effects on brain injury in an adult mouse MCAO model "
/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3306416/

notice the word likely... however also notice the mice were injected, so... who knows what happens if u drink it...

Sheeks175
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   Posted 1/8/2018 11:51 AM (GMT -7)   
Woodduck12 said...
Does Oil of Oregono cross the BB?


I'm not 100% sure, but I believe that a liposomal form of OoO does. It can be ordered with prescription from your doctor through Hopkinton Drug, MA.
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