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gabybee
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   Posted 10/16/2017 8:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I'm sitting here bawling my eyes out as I'm writing this. I'm so sick of this disease, it has ruined all my friendships and two of my relationships.

My partner and I are "different" in that we lead different lifestyles. Namely, that I am sick and she is not. On top of that, we are long distance because I decided to go treat myself in Florida with a good naturopath, in hopes of getting better and then reuniting.

When we fight it's usually because I'm herxing and have brain fog which leads to anxiety and then to me feeling lonely, isolated, and scared. Then, I usually turn to her for help and because she lives a normal life, she is sometimes busy-out with people etc. I get hurt that she isn't there for me and I feel so isolated and rejected and then I get upset and angry. In my opinion, I wish she was there more for me, and she thinks she is there too much.

I don't know what to do anymore. When I'm not herxing I feel fine and everything is fine with us. But my treatments have been super rough- especially since I've tried healing my gut and all the emotional turmoil is uncontrollable.

Tonight she decided we aren't healthy for each other anymore. In my opinion this is a cover up and means I'm unhealthy for her.

Post Edited (gabybee) : 10/17/2017 6:38:52 AM (GMT-6)


Purrrsiankitty
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   Posted 10/16/2017 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
This disease robs us of so much. I'm so sorry. If she made that decision, there is not a whole lot you can do. Try to step back and give it some time.

You have to take care of yourself. Nothing is worse for continued healing than the emotional turmoil that you are going through.

I want to sound compassionate, wish I could reach out and give you a big hug.

So glad you posted, sweetie!
Dx May 2015 Quest pos Elisa/neg WB. Doxy only. Restest Igenix lyme pos, neg CDC, 18 +, **23-25 IND, *30 +, **31+, **34 IND, **41+, **83-93++. Retest12/16 Igen 41+, 83-93+ whole blood-plasmid pos. Retest Lyme/co's. Neg co's. Suspected Bart. 7/15 start 16 mo of doxy, azith, ceftin. Finished 09/16. Cowden start 12/16 and stop April 2017 to deal with yeast & leaky gut.Restart Buhner for BBB.

joee
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   Posted 10/16/2017 9:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Oh Gaby,

I don't have any words of advice.

I just wanted to show my support to you. And to let you know there is some one out there thinking of you and the pain you are feeling.


Hugs

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 10/16/2017 9:59 PM (GMT -6)   
gabybee,

I'm sincerely sorry for your mental, physical, and emotional suffering. PurrrsianKitty gave you good advice -- especially about needing to take care of yourself first.

I realize that can be a chicken-and-egg proposition, at times, because we often need others to help us, to some degree or another. But, we must be careful about being too reliant on the wrong people. As we all know, some folks just don't understand our challenges. To be fair, there's no way they could, unless they went through it themselves. But, I'd never wish that on anyone.

Maybe you could benefit from connecting in person with others who are dealing with Lyme. Have you looked at any of the links in the following thread?

Lyme/Bartonella South Florida Support?
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3927703

This forum is full of great, supportive people, without question. But, in my opinion, meeting people face-to-face is usually preferable. If you were able to make some new friends in a Lyme support group, you could then alternate meeting in-person and speaking via telephone.

Again, I'm sorry for the anguish you're enduring. You have every right to be upset, angry, sad, sick-and-tired of being sick-and-tired, and everything else. Just let the emotions pass through you. Don't try to deny them, judge them, or make sense of them. Just feel them fully and experience them completely. By doing so, over time, you will be able to greatly reduce or even neutralize their effects.

I wish you only the best of everything.

The Dude

10LymeB
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   Posted 10/16/2017 11:03 PM (GMT -6)   
i"ve discovered several important things while I've been sick. I too have cried and cried because...where are my friends? Where is my family? My husband is useless unless I'm falling down and writhing in pain - even then, he doesn't know what to do.

Here's what I've learned:

1. Illness is really uncomfortable for people. They can't handle it. They're weak, if you ask me. I'm the kind of person who would visit my sick friends, check in on them. This is not reciprocated at all.
2. Even though my husband is here, I have to rely on myself to get better. I have to rely on myself to feel good, to get through the dark times, to cry on my own shoulder.
3. Long distance relationships are really really really hard. My husband travels a lot, so I get a bit of what you're going through. They cause strain on relationships, but they are also a test. If you can make this, you can make anything.
4. You are not on the forefront of anyone's mind 24 hours a day. Not even my mom is calling me every day. When I was well, she called me twice a day. Now? One every week or so.
5. This too shall pass. I've come to realize that even my DARKEST times are only temporary. I ride them out, put on a movie, or some music. Sometimes I sing. I cry. Get it all out. Start training yourself to be nice to yourself in these dark moments. It takes practice.
6. Lyme weeds out the bad and unnecessary people in your life. Ultimately, this is a good thing.
7. If you can, try to understand where your partner is coming from. They may feel helpless or may not have the skills to be there for you. Some people just don't. My husband is one of them. He tries, but he's not a caretaker.
8. Keep your mind occupied. Art, audio books, movies, planning a great vacation for when you're well. Force yourself to move around and stay active. Take care of yourself. Right now, you are more important than your relationship.

Look, I wish my husband was here for me all the time, but he's not. I'm lonely, but I'm learning to rely on myself for company. And I'm pretty good company, if I do say so myself.

If worse comes to worse, try CBD to help with the stress. You can do this. I really hope you feel better.
*42 yo - Treatment started Nov. 2016 - Bitten by mosquito in Paris 2013
* SIBO (improved with diet)
* Candida (improved with diet and Nystatin)
* Lyme - Babesia - Bartonella
* Hashimoto's (improved with NatureThroid)
* EBV
* HHV6
* Tinea Versicolor (improved with Sporanox)
* IBS (improved with diet and BPC 157)
* Mostly herbal treatment, Bryon White

Psilociraptor
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   Posted 10/17/2017 6:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Maybe you're not healthy for her, but maybe she's not healthy for you either. That's just kind of the thing about relationships. No ones really in the right or wrong most of the time. We just have different needs. And when they don't get met it's time to either figure it out or move on. "In sickness and in health". I can't blame her for not being able to handle this, but from your experience with this disease is this the person you want around in 30 years when you get cancer or whatever? Doesn't sound like it. She doesn't have the experience or empathy to really be there for you in the way that you need. My illness caused a lot of turmoil with my wife and I early on in our relationship but we worked it through and she is always there for me. In fact she pushed the marriage, making sure that she was the first person to get called if I was hurt. That she would have all the rights of family to be with me. I doubt that at 26 this was what she was expecting to deal with. But she never backed down from me. Or even hinted that my problems were too much for her. If anything I feel like it's me who can use the improvement.

So yeah... move on. Find yourself a partner like mine. They're out there. And don't beat yourself up for being sick. That's just not fair <3

Edit: or talk with her, be candid, and see if communication could be better. That's always step one.

gabybee
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   Posted 10/17/2017 6:36 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you for all your responses- you all are very wise.

I guess the biggest problem is my neurological symptoms from this disease. I cry and I cry and I require so much love and support- more than I've ever needed in my life. I used to be a very independent person- this disease has changed me so much.

dacarte3
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   Posted 10/17/2017 7:02 AM (GMT -6)   
Hello Gaby,

There's understanding people out there and you will meet and find that person.

I told my girlfriend early on about me having lyme and she understands. So much so she is on me more about my health sometimes than myself. about not over-exerting myself, going to bed early, what I eat. Whether I should relax and she drives instead of me, etc.

She had to get use to the lack of communication on my bad days because of the mood herxes that lyme can cause similar to you (except for me I get very irritable).

Yet she still cares about me for some reason.

So those very understanding and caring people are out there.
Lyme (Igenex) - Positive IFA and WB bands 23, 31, 41
Ehrlichia (Igenex)
Mycoplasma (Labcorp) - Score: 595

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016; 7/2017-9/2017
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Dec. 2016; 8/2017 - Present

Evanston1
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   Posted 10/17/2017 7:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Gaby , I'm so sorry. I know this is so hard. There is no easy way through it. I sssoo wish there was!! Know that you are not alone and we are here for you... even though we are not physically standing in front of you.

10LymeB, I loved everything you wrote. It is amazing advice and totally spot on.

We will all make it to the other side. I know we will.

gabybee
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   Posted 10/17/2017 8:12 AM (GMT -6)   
Thank you.. I don't know how I'm going to find the strength to do this. You guys have been a great soundboard- I finally understand what I'm supposed to do. Thanks for the responses.

I just don't know how I'm going to get over this break up

Rikky1
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   Posted 10/17/2017 9:39 AM (GMT -6)   
its amazing to me how many people drop out of your life when you become chronically ill. people you thought would jump off a cliff with you are nowhere to be found. this includes close friends and family.

it really is a shame. i get the sympathy fatigue heck i get fatigued thinking and talking about my illness but unlike others i can't escape from myself and every conscious waking moment i'm in some kind of dis-ease with myself.

gaby you need to focus on #1 and that's yourself. one day you will look back and realize through all the pain, suffering and loss how much you've learned and grown as a person. just stay the course and spend this time getting your physical, mental and emotional state healthy.

Pirouette
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   Posted 10/17/2017 12:05 PM (GMT -6)   
gabybee---

Print out this thread and keep it somewhere accessible - such great advice from VERY experienced people.

The sx you're talking about are due to neurotransmitter imbalances. I went undiagnosed for 16+ year so by the time I was treating, my sx list was L-O-N-G. Through all the pain and discomfort, none of those sx were as horrible and impactful as the sx you're describing. It's one thing to be in pain, suffering. It's another thing altogether to literally lose your faculties and your ability to interact with other people.

It's those sx that make us feel so isolated, because they make it impossible to interact with other people - particularly those closest to us - in effective, calm, patient and productive ways. And they often cause emotionally reactive responses that dominate even the most basic interaction, making everything dysfunctional.

You feel crazy. You seem crazy. And we and those who love us never get a break. And the good but short bursts of normality just make the bad periods seem worse. It's an EXHAUSTING and destructive cycle.

I can't tell you how many discussions exactly like this that I've seen on this forum over the past 4 yrs... and they're hard for me to read because Lyme & Co and the lack of dx or tx has literally destroyed most of my relationships, including my family.

The stress from the isolation and pain and disappointment is every bit as destructive as these infections. Please keep that in mind.

As just about everyone else has suggested, you MUST focus on yourself. You are the only person who can heal you and no other person, no matter how much love there is, will make that much of a difference... unfortunately, many happy and long-term couples can attest to that.

To be the best YOU and to bring the best to another and build the best relationship, you must get your best self mended. There is a ton of support available to you everywhere - find a local Lyme support group if you can. If not, please find a chronic illness support group. Post every single day on this forum - you'll always receive a response and unfortunately, this is a very, very common topic. And there are many success stories to learn from, too.

Please try some adjustments to your protocol to address the neurotransmitter imbalances. Both times I started abx I had a severe cycle of neuro-psych problems from neurotransmitter imbalances. I cycled every hour from one extreme emotion (fear, morose sadness, paranoia, rage, complete disconnect and dissociation) for 24 hrs for a few weeks. I didn't think I was going to make it.

Further treatment, increased and focused detoxing, and time helped address them. Throughout treatment, I would still cycle with all the emotions from time to time but it continued to get better over time. But it was these sx and the cognitive problems that made treatment SO MUCH HARDER - people don't realize. When you lose track of the day and your protocol and feel and act crazy, this whole process gets more complicated and it's really hard to make progress so addressing these issues is key.

- First, there is a clear link between GI problems and your brain - science solved this by finding blood vessels that connect the two and allow neurotoxins to enter the brain, sometimes causing the sx you describe. So addressing both is key. There is a lot of info online and on the forum about this but again, you can ask specific questions for customized responses.

- Therefore, your GI health is critical. If you have any issues, please start a new thread and we can try to help you troubleshoot.

- Next, please be sure to include proper methods of detoxing that hit all of the critical functions (brain, GI, lymph, skin, liver, etc.). Many of us are detoxing brain with Nutramedix Pinella and burbur tinctures.

- Reducing inflammation might also be helpful.

- If you can try to get some neurotransmitter and endocrine tests done - if you don't already have that checked. Sometimes there is simple supplementation that can be done to rebalance, lessen the sx. Sometimes it takes a coordinated effort with adrenal and thyroid rebalancing. The best tests include multiple saliva samples throughout a 24-hr period so this is also something you can inquire about.

- And please rule out or effectively address yeast/fungal overgrowth - many of your sx are common with overgrowth, which can interfere with treatment in several ways since sx overlap a lot with Lyme & Co and make it difficult to navigate. Untreated y/f overgrowth can also cause damage to the GI, making the neurotransmitter imbalances much worse, making it difficult for anything you take orally (including food) to get absorbed and processed effectively. Here is more info:
Y/FO post in the "New to Lyme?" thread:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=1606610&g=3644275#m3644275

- And make sure you're treating what you need to be treating - the neuro-psych sx are also common with babesia and particularly with bartonella. Here is a good symptom list that might help you determine what is dominant, if you haven't already looked into that:
Jernigan's symptom list:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3673749&g=3673789#m3673789

Hang in there and be sure to check in with us - you're going to be just fine. Promise.

-p
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Chronic late-stage lyme—likely infected in '00; Clinically dx Mar'14 w/ Babs, Fry Labs+ Bart-like, CDC+ Bb. First treated 4-5 viruses & GI/immune. Herbal antimicrobials in May; IV port-started Rocephin in Nov; added vancomycin Mar'16;
DETOX: Pinella/Burbur/Parsley/Milk thistle/Burdock/Red root; Samento/Banderol/Enula; JK/Turmeric; BFM-1; antifung; many many supps; cholestyramine!

gabybee
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   Posted 10/17/2017 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Pirouette said...
gabybee---

Print out this thread and keep it somewhere accessible - such great advice from VERY experienced people.

The sx you're talking about are due to neurotransmitter imbalances. I went undiagnosed for 16+ year so by the time I was treating, my sx list was L-O-N-G. Through all the pain and discomfort, none of those sx were as horrible and impactful as the sx you're describing. It's one thing to be in pain, suffering. It's another thing altogether to literally lose your faculties and your ability to interact with other people.

It's those sx that make us feel so isolated, because they make it impossible to interact with other people - particularly those closest to us - in effective, calm, patient and productive ways. And they often cause emotionally reactive responses that dominate even the most basic interaction, making everything dysfunctional.

You feel crazy. You seem crazy. And we and those who love us never get a break. And the good but short bursts of normality just make the bad periods seem worse. It's an EXHAUSTING and destructive cycle.

I can't tell you how many discussions exactly like this that I've seen on this forum over the past 4 yrs... and they're hard for me to read because Lyme & Co and the lack of dx or tx has literally destroyed most of my relationships, including my family.

The stress from the isolation and pain and disappointment is every bit as destructive as these infections. Please keep that in mind.

As just about everyone else has suggested, you MUST focus on yourself. You are the only person who can heal you and no other person, no matter how much love there is, will make that much of a difference... unfortunately, many happy and long-term couples can attest to that.

To be the best YOU and to bring the best to another and build the best relationship, you must get your best self mended. There is a ton of support available to you everywhere - find a local Lyme support group if you can. If not, please find a chronic illness support group. Post every single day on this forum - you'll always receive a response and unfortunately, this is a very, very common topic. And there are many success stories to learn from, too.

Please try some adjustments to your protocol to address the neurotransmitter imbalances. Both times I started abx I had a severe cycle of neuro-psych problems from neurotransmitter imbalances. I cycled every hour from one extreme emotion (fear, morose sadness, paranoia, rage, complete disconnect and dissociation) for 24 hrs for a few weeks. I didn't think I was going to make it.

Further treatment, increased and focused detoxing, and time helped address them. Throughout treatment, I would still cycle with all the emotions from time to time but it continued to get better over time. But it was these sx and the cognitive problems that made treatment SO MUCH HARDER - people don't realize. When you lose track of the day and your protocol and feel and act crazy, this whole process gets more complicated and it's really hard to make progress so addressing these issues is key.

- First, there is a clear link between GI problems and your brain - science solved this by finding blood vessels that connect the two and allow neurotoxins to enter the brain, sometimes causing the sx you describe. So addressing both is key. There is a lot of info online and on the forum about this but again, you can ask specific questions for customized responses.

- Therefore, your GI health is critical. If you have any issues, please start a new thread and we can try to help you troubleshoot.

- Next, please be sure to include proper methods of detoxing that hit all of the critical functions (brain, GI, lymph, skin, liver, etc.). Many of us are detoxing brain with Nutramedix Pinella and burbur tinctures.

- Reducing inflammation might also be helpful.

- If you can try to get some neurotransmitter and endocrine tests done - if you don't already have that checked. Sometimes there is simple supplementation that can be done to rebalance, lessen the sx. Sometimes it takes a coordinated effort with adrenal and thyroid rebalancing. The best tests include multiple saliva samples throughout a 24-hr period so this is also something you can inquire about.

- And please rule out or effectively address yeast/fungal overgrowth - many of your sx are common with overgrowth, which can interfere with treatment in several ways since sx overlap a lot with Lyme & Co and make it difficult to navigate. Untreated y/f overgrowth can also cause damage to the GI, making the neurotransmitter imbalances much worse, making it difficult for anything you take orally (including food) to get absorbed and processed effectively. Here is more info:
Y/FO post in the "New to Lyme?" thread:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=1606610&g=3644275#m3644275

- And make sure you're treating what you need to be treating - the neuro-psych sx are also common with babesia and particularly with bartonella. Here is a good symptom list that might help you determine what is dominant, if you haven't already looked into that:
Jernigan's symptom list:
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3673749&g=3673789#m3673789

Hang in there and be sure to check in with us - you're going to be just fine. Promise.

-p


wow.... you couldn't have explained everything going wrong better. I know whats wrong with me- it's everything you mentioned - lyme, bartonella, candida, ecoli, klebsiella and methylation issues. its driving me insane but i have had no respite in the past few days...my adrenal glands are also messed up since i just got my period today... it sucks to be so young and feel so horrible. Thank you pirouette

Pirouette
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   Posted 10/17/2017 1:43 PM (GMT -6)   
You're welcome.

Take today and get through it. Tomorrow is a whole other day and you'll get through that, too.

Detox, detox, detox.

Meditation and breathing exercises (really great how-to vids on youtube - I think these also saved my life and sanity LOL).

And keep posting on the forum.

-p
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Chronic late-stage lyme—likely infected in '00; Clinically dx Mar'14 w/ Babs, Fry Labs+ Bart-like, CDC+ Bb. First treated 4-5 viruses & GI/immune. Herbal antimicrobials in May; IV port-started Rocephin in Nov; added vancomycin Mar'16;
DETOX: Pinella/Burbur/Parsley/Milk thistle/Burdock/Red root; Samento/Banderol/Enula; JK/Turmeric; BFM-1; antifung; many many supps; cholestyramine!

Purrrsiankitty
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   Posted 10/17/2017 7:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Gaby, Hope you had a better day..today. I thought of you often (((hugs)))
Dx May 2015 Quest pos Elisa/neg WB. Doxy only. Restest Igenix lyme pos, neg CDC, 18 +, **23-25 IND, *30 +, **31+, **34 IND, **41+, **83-93++. Retest12/16 Igen 41+, 83-93+ whole blood-plasmid pos. Retest Lyme/co's. Neg co's. Suspected Bart. 7/15 start 16 mo of doxy, azith, ceftin. Finished 09/16. Cowden start 12/16 and stop April 2017 to deal with yeast & leaky gut.Restart Buhner for BBB.

Inspiredby3
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   Posted 10/17/2017 9:48 PM (GMT -6)   
I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this.... I’ve been sick over 5 years and have pretty much lost most of my friends and family. Don’t even talk to my mom any more. We never got in a fight or anything, just stopped talking. My marriage is not great either. I live for my kids and all the love I get from them. I just don’t have a very good outlook on people anymore... I’m sorry I’m of not munch help, but just wanted to let you ‘now that I’m in similar shoes and feel your pain and loneliness....
Found imbedded tick and oval rash March 2012
Symptoms appeared 2.5 months later.
Saw family Dr. Tested negative for Lyme and coinfections. Treatment started Dec. 2012. In 2014 tested positive for Bartonella. Clinically diagnosed with a Babesia in 2015. Currently taking - Clarythromycin, Dapsone and Plaquenil. Japanese Knotweed, Samento, Banderol and many others.

Rikky1
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   Posted 10/18/2017 9:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Inspiredby3 said...
I’m so sorry you’re dealing with this.... I’ve been sick over 5 years and have pretty much lost most of my friends and family. Don’t even talk to my mom any more. We never got in a fight or anything, just stopped talking. My marriage is not great either. I live for my kids and all the love I get from them. I just don’t have a very good outlook on people anymore... I’m sorry I’m of not munch help, but just wanted to let you ‘now that I’m in similar shoes and feel your pain and loneliness....


reminds me of a refrigerator magnet i saw recently that really sums up what many of us go through. it says

"I Used to be a People Person,
Until People Ruined it for me"

Sad but true.

Coco the artist
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   Posted 5/8/2018 11:29 PM (GMT -6)   
I’m so sorry to hear of your problem. It is really wonderful to have this forum to talk it out. I too am in the same situation, so I understand. You can only try so hard to make her understand. Don’t waste too much time, life is short. Sometimes it’s better to move on, and definitely not an easy thing to do, as I had to do after 20 years and 2 kids. There is hope, you must move on

sandyfeet
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   Posted 5/9/2018 3:07 AM (GMT -6)   
Gabybee,

I’m so sorry you’re going through such a rough time physically and in your relationship. The changes lyme brings into our lives really are awful at times, if it were only the physical changes it might just be bearable.

I wish I had the right words to share. I struggle with finding the support I want in my friendships and relationships too and the only advice I come back to is my father’s which is to accept what people in your life can offer and to give what you can. So, for the people that I love I try to remember that they are doing the best they can for me with the experience and perspective they have. I try to be very explicit with myself and family about what I need when I’m down which isn’t easy as I don’t always know myself. Even with a few irl lyme friends it’s very isolating at times especially since almost everything is invisible.

Reading through all the wonderful supportive comments here had me in tears. So many lovely people. I think Pirouette’s suggestion to print out this thread was perfect.

Wishing you all the love and support you seek and much healing.
Bulls eye rash August 2013
Started treating with Buhner herbs July 2017
Treating Borellia, Babesia and Bartonella as of November 2017

Girlie
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   Posted 5/9/2018 11:47 AM (GMT -6)   
sandyfeet - that was an older post of gabybee's.

she is doing much better now - here's her more recent post:

/www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=4008671
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

sandyfeet
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   Posted 5/9/2018 12:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Lol - I’m usually good about checking the dates but I missed this one Girlie - I’ll put that down to brain fog and vision and I guess I can safely say I’m not recovered yet. I’m so glad as I thought I’d only just read an earlier post saying things were really good.

It’s still one of the loveliest supportive threads. smile
Bulls eye rash August 2013
Started treating with Buhner herbs July 2017
Treating Borellia, Babesia and Bartonella as of November 2017

Girlie
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   Posted 5/9/2018 12:23 PM (GMT -6)   
sandyfeet said...
Lol - I’m usually good about checking the dates but I missed this one Girlie - I’ll put that down to brain fog and vision and I guess I can safely say I’m not recovered yet. I’m so glad as I thought I’d only just read an earlier post saying things were really good.

It’s still one of the loveliest supportive threads. smile



I just wanted you to know she is doing well now...


it's really hard to keep track of everyone's stories/progression, etc...
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

sandyfeet
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   Posted 5/9/2018 12:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks Girlie! I really appreciate that.

It’s kind of nice to be reminded that people get through even the most difficult times.
Bulls eye rash August 2013
Started treating with Buhner herbs July 2017
Treating Borellia, Babesia and Bartonella as of November 2017

Girlie
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   Posted 5/9/2018 12:32 PM (GMT -6)   
sandyfeet said...
Thanks Girlie! I really appreciate that.

It’s kind of nice to be reminded that people get through even the most difficult times.


Yes, it is. And the BVT is quite tempting. (That's what she has attributed her change for the better to)
Moderator, Lyme Forum
Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

sandyfeet
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Date Joined Mar 2018
Total Posts : 282
   Posted 5/9/2018 12:34 PM (GMT -6)   
Eek! Not yet. But I am intrigued.
Bulls eye rash August 2013
Started treating with Buhner herbs July 2017
Treating Borellia, Babesia and Bartonella as of November 2017
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