Posted 10/24/2017 2:26 AM (GMT -6)
And ECGC has anti-protozoal properties.
Posted 10/24/2017 10:53 AM (GMT -6)
dacarte3 said...


So a comprehensive Lyme treatment is still needed in conjunction with this protocol.

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exactly, this protocol doesnt kill any borrelia, its only to treat and heal neurotoxic impacts of lyme
Posted 10/25/2017 7:24 PM (GMT -6)
Will post a week one update on Friday.

Lapis, has it been one week for you?
Lyme (Igenex) - Positive IFA and WB bands 23, 31, 41
Ehrlichia (Igenex)
Mycoplasma (Labcorp) - Score: 595

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016; 7/2017-9/2017
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Dec. 2016; 8/2017 - Present
Posted 10/25/2017 8:14 PM (GMT -6)
5 days so far and I do like it

bumps up my mood for certain. I am going to keep at it.
Posted 10/26/2017 6:56 PM (GMT -6)
Hello Lapis,

Did any of these studies suggest our protocol can help with Autoimmune Encephalitis? I feel like I read it some where.

I'm sure a huge portion of neuro lymies have an element of Autoimmune Encephalitis rather than simply encephalitis.
Posted 10/26/2017 10:52 PM (GMT -6)
How long are you planning to do the stacks? Are you guys planning on cycling off?

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Posted 10/27/2017 7:53 AM (GMT -6)
Good question, I read a lot about people cycling. I need to refresh my memory on that, I almost forgot about it.
Lyme (Igenex) - Positive IFA and WB bands 23, 31, 41
Ehrlichia (Igenex)
Mycoplasma (Labcorp) - Score: 595

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016; 7/2017-9/2017
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Dec. 2016; 8/2017 - Present
Posted 10/27/2017 10:10 AM (GMT -6)
There are a good amount of people on You Tube that talk about the nootropics you are using. The majority of them say these are things you want to cycle rather than remain on to prevent the negative effects. 5 days use is already a bit much as per what these people recommend.

Here is one of them: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7J168KE1v4YBr8H2noeMbQ/videos

He has some videos covering Huperzine A and says you don't want to just stay on it.

Something to consider as we have a difficult enough time distinguishing what symptoms are from Lyme.

2014 Mold Sick,2015 Clinical Lyme and co.,2016 Morgellons,2017 Remission
YT (for now): www.tinyurl.com/CHIARISE
Twitter: @ClintFromNYtoVA
Blog: www.fascinatingtimetobealive.blogspot.com/
"Give me the material that I can to apply critical thinking or blind faith to. I'm all about the possibilities!"
“The privilege of a lifetime is to become who you truly are"
Posted 10/27/2017 10:19 AM (GMT -6)
dacarte3 said...
Hello Lapis,

Did any of these studies suggest our protocol can help with Autoimmune Encephalitis? I feel like I read it some where.

I'm sure a huge portion of neuro lymies have an element of Autoimmune Encephalitis rather than simply encephalitis.


good questgion, dont know

although I think DMSO would help with that since its such a powerful anti infammatory
Posted 10/27/2017 10:22 AM (GMT -6)
ChickenArise said...
There are a good amount of people on You Tube that talk about the nootropics you are using. The majority of them say these are things you want to cycle rather than remain on to prevent the negative effects. 5 days use is already a bit much as per what these people recommend.

Here is one of them: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7J168KE1v4YBr8H2noeMbQ/videos

He has some videos covering Huperzine A and says you don't want to just stay on it.

Something to consider as we have a difficult enough time distinguishing what symptoms are from Lyme.


right but those ppl dont have a deadly illness that depresses their acetylcholine levels

I really dont have the answer, just saying if you have lyme you are playing by different rules.
Posted 10/27/2017 10:54 AM (GMT -6)
Lapis_29 said...
ChickenArise said...
There are a good amount of people on You Tube that talk about the nootropics you are using. The majority of them say these are things you want to cycle rather than remain on to prevent the negative effects. 5 days use is already a bit much as per what these people recommend.

Here is one of them: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC7J168KE1v4YBr8H2noeMbQ/videos

He has some videos covering Huperzine A and says you don't want to just stay on it.

Something to consider as we have a difficult enough time distinguishing what symptoms are from Lyme.


right but those ppl dont have a deadly illness that depresses their acetylcholine levels

I really dont have the answer, just saying if you have lyme you are playing by different rules.


You make a good point. Those people don't have ACE constantly being depleted.

Most people use these supps for a boost in cognitive performance or their muscle growth from work outs

There's a lot of supps that we take a higher dosage of than the average person because we have Lyme as herbalist recommend.

I'll probably still cycle but 5-7 days I don't believe is long enough for someone with Lyme.

Every two weeks I'll probably take a week off. As symptoms improve I'll take less of it. And hopefully one day Neuro symptom free where I can completely stop.

Because unlike other maintenance herbs and supps I will not be taking this for the rest of my life. At least not consistently. Only when flares may happen.
Posted 10/27/2017 10:54 AM (GMT -6)
Lapis_29 said...

right but those ppl dont have a deadly illness that depresses their acetylcholine levels

I really dont have the answer, just saying if you have lyme you are playing by different rules.


I hear what youre saying.

This gent claimed to have Lyme and used Noortropics to help.

/www.youtube.com/user/stevecronin

Maybe he can provide some insight from experience. Just a thought. Either way keep us updated.

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Twitter: @ClintFromNYtoVA
Blog: www.fascinatingtimetobealive.blogspot.com/
"Give me the material that I can to apply critical thinking or blind faith to. I'm all about the possibilities!"
“The privilege of a lifetime is to become who you truly are"
Posted 10/27/2017 1:38 PM (GMT -6)
Science is cool, man.
Posted 10/27/2017 6:04 PM (GMT -6)
One Week Review:

Immediate effects/what it significantly helped:

1. mood: Detoxing the brain and the development of more ACE most likely has an overall affect on "Good mood" chemicals such as serotonin and dopamine. Not only was the subject in overall better mood but can feel more happy emotions (dopamine). One may feel the effects of this within 1 or 2 hours of taking it. It's really no surprise as a healthy CNS allows a more healthy function of these neurological processes. Many things can aid in this, not just this CNS protocol but the fact that this particular protocol does help is worth noting.

2. Sedative effects/anti-anxiety: at first this protocol has noticeable sedative effects. However, once the body is use to it this effect subsides. The anti-anxiety effects most likely goes back to what was explained in #1.

3. Muscle weakness: this symptom is a very particular and noticeable symptom. It's not the same as just being weaker or de-conditioned from being ill with lyme. It's the muscle weakness that make very simple things difficult, like simply getting up without muscles trembling, picking up a pot of water, wonky wobbly legs, etc. With that clarified, it eliminated this symptom. Would this symptom have gone away anyways and it was merely a coincidence? Possible but not probable.

Moderate effects (for now):

1. Off balance/drunk feeling when moving/walking: It has improved this symptom. It's not as severe and doesn't last nearly as long. At worse this feeling was all day long. Now it's spotty for about 10 minutes randomly throughout the day. Really helps but can't say it eliminated it (yet).

2 . Head fog: this protocol does aid in head fog. However it is not permanent but its relief. The subject was already taking Pinella which already helped but adding this protocol made the "relief" last longer. Head fog that would normally occur in the afternoon from 2pm-5pm due to long and busy work day stayed away until 7-8pm and was much shorter lived. And it's important to note it was a complete clearing of head fog, not simply partial. The subject almost forgot what a complete clear head felt like and it was an awesome state to be in (temporarily). Once again not a permanent remedy as the cause of the head fog, lyme and co, is the main culprit however it does provide longer head fog relief.

Little to no improvement:

1. Muscle wasting: Hard to tell. This either stopped or greatly slowed (where I can't really tell). This symptoms is very hard to pin point if this protocol actually was the reason. I will have to see actual muscle development improvement to be able to give this protocol that credit. This symptom greatly slowing or halting, for now, I must give more credit to the overall lyme treatment.

2. Peripheral Neuropathy (numbness, tingling): this still occurs at the same intensity and just as often

3. Muscle twitching: many things can cause this when it comes to lyme for it's not only neurological. This symptoms is a symptom the subject has had since the very beginning of lyme and has never went away. Even when the subject was very near symptom free, this was one of two symptoms that still happen every so often. So for the subject in particular this symptom is most likely related to something else. Whether it's lyme and co simply breaking down tissue or being magnesium deficient because of lyme.

Only one week. The fact that it it showed this much improvement in certain areas is pretty good for 7 days. Hopefully more time will start to move all these symptoms up to the first category.

Post Edited (dacarte3) : 10/27/2017 5:16:54 PM (GMT-6)

Posted 10/27/2017 6:29 PM (GMT -6)
I will provide my next update at the one month mark, unless significant improvement/break throughs are made prior to the one month mark.
Lyme (Igenex) - Positive IFA and WB bands 23, 31, 41
Ehrlichia (Igenex)
Mycoplasma (Labcorp) - Score: 595

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016; 7/2017-9/2017
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Dec. 2016; 8/2017 - Present
Posted 10/29/2017 1:41 PM (GMT -6)
Lapis, what's your status on this protocol?
Lyme (Igenex) - Positive IFA and WB bands 23, 31, 41
Ehrlichia (Igenex)
Mycoplasma (Labcorp) - Score: 595

ABX Treatment: 03/2016-04/2016; 7/2017-9/2017
Buhner Protocol for Lyme and Mycoplasma: May 2016 - Dec. 2016; 8/2017 - Present

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