Has anyone tried many protocols at once?

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atxlyme
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   Posted 11/10/2017 4:19 PM (GMT -7)   
I've been at this for 6+ months and have spent the last couple months wiped out energy wise. I was debating combining many protocols to get better more quickly.

Obviously I'd run the combos by my doctor to make sure it was safe, but has anyone tried combining many treatments to increase the chance of success?

Would definitely be more expensive, but seeing as some things will work for some while they won't for others, seemed logical to me- any thoughts?

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   Posted 11/10/2017 4:21 PM (GMT -7)   
Do you mean many protocols, like herbals, rife, antibiotics?

Or do you mean treating different infections together - like bart and babesia ..?
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Girlie
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   Posted 11/10/2017 4:23 PM (GMT -7)   
While treating lyme with antibiotics, I added Buhner's bartonella herbals.

And when treating Bartonella with antibiotics, I did some rounds of Artemisinin to treat babesia.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

atxlyme
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   Posted 11/10/2017 6:19 PM (GMT -7)   
Combining things like Cowdens, Buhners, Zhnags at the same time.

PDXtransplant
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   Posted 11/10/2017 7:26 PM (GMT -7)   
I'm doing a combo of Buhner and essential oils. Haven't really run it by my lyme dr. mostly bc my next appt isn't til dec 4.

Rikky1
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   Posted 11/10/2017 7:42 PM (GMT -7)   
more doesn't mean you'll heal quicker in fact it seems for most you herx more and are more miserable. fighting these infections is a life lesson in patience you can only kill some of them when they're vulnerable and that isn't all the time.

but to answer your question yes many folks have combined an abx protocol with herbals and energy (e.f. rife) like myself.

magoo2
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   Posted 11/10/2017 8:09 PM (GMT -7)   
I do think we need to do more than one thing. ABX-supplements-sauna-diet-sleep-parasites-ozone. I hear very few do well by just doing one thing

atxlyme
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   Posted 11/10/2017 8:42 PM (GMT -7)   
Rikky1 said...
it seems for most you herx more and are more miserable


i don't seem to herx am just tired all the time, so less concerned with herxing in my specific case

atxlyme
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   Posted 11/11/2017 11:44 AM (GMT -7)   
magoo2 said...
ABX-supplements-sauna-diet-sleep-parasites-ozone


what are you doing for parasites specifically?

Rikky1
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   Posted 11/11/2017 12:24 PM (GMT -7)   
being tired could be herxing.

have you had your adrenals checked? that can definitely cause exhaustion.

1000Daisies
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   Posted 11/15/2017 1:58 PM (GMT -7)   
Depends on what you are trying to combine. smile

Sure, we've done abx with various supplements, FCT (failure), HBOT and mHBOT, various herbal protocols, anti-yeast, heavy metal detoxifying, etc etc etc. And so much more.

Not ALL of these at the same time, but sure, we did more than one thing together.

We did the Burbur/Pinella during same time period as some of Buhner's herbals. However, I wouldn't personally combine the full Buhner, Bryon White, Beyond Balance, and Cowden protocols together because there would potentially be some overlap for sure! (That's not to say you couldn't do some parts together, but that would need to be researched carefully. Similarly to how you combine abx together.)
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Very sick now despite being treated for years, still very bad
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

magoo2
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   Posted 11/15/2017 3:26 PM (GMT -7)   
atxlyme- for parasites I did several rounds of high dose meds -I worked with Dr. Yu. I think he is the best person in the world for parasites and/or dental.
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