This debate about
cysts is reminscent of Lymenet Europe and the professional naysayers arguing with
Dr. MacDonald. Dr. Lida Mattman, who Dr. MacDonald referred to as our hero, clearly defines borrelia cysts as L-bodies - L-forms.
L-form scientists find the verbage "cysts" by lymees amusing. As I had mentioned before, one of the top L-form scientists who corresponded with me for a while and would give me feedback on my videos stated:
"These large morphological structures are common in L-forms; they are observed frequently and also, they are very varied. In your case, considering the given diagnosis, it is most likely that it is borrelia large L-bodies, or as you refer to them – “borrelia cysts”
Clearly her quotation marks around borrelia cysts must cause a reaction - since she is an L-form scientist. She previously watched some of my video and stated:
- " Indeed, I am worried to say that there’s an abundance of L-forms, proliferating and exhibiting all possible morphological variations".
- "One way or another, the large filamentous and spherical bodies and the positive DNA test for Borrelia , is very alarming".
-"Otherwise, I am definitely of the opinion that all people possess blood microbiota of L-forms, which exist in the blood as small granular forms, in limited quantities. In some bacterial diseases, however, as is the case with Lyme diseases, the pathogens can transform in L-forms and exist together within normal microbiota but they can revert and thus cause a reactivation of the infection. It is very unfortunate that inhibiting L-forms with pharmaceuticals is very difficult".
And not only can they cause reactivation constantly, as Dr. MacDonald demonstrated, they can invade neurons and other human cells causing cell death.
Dr. Ying Zhang watched some of my video and did not say " How silly for you to call them cysts or L-forms - there is no such thing" He stated - "Thank you John for the interesting videos showing variant forms (L-form, cyst form, biofilm) of Borrelia. I believe they exist in vitro and in vivo, and we need to develop more effective treatment for such forms".
With the reverence for Dr. Mattman and MacDonald by lyme aficionados, I am surprised that so few people have read Stealth Pathogen. As we who do microscopy of borrelia know, scientific blood studies are very lacking. BSK culture results in plasmid loss of borrelia - we knew this from the beginning and many scientists have stated this. Thus, the plasmid-dropped borrelia lose virulence and morphological abillity as some of their unique ORF's are lost. Dr, Mattman did not have this problem as much with her culture - but it is all but gone and not used today.
One of the main setbacks in understanding borrelia L-forms is the conception that a "cyst" is formed by one spirochete. Remember a granule can revert to a spirochete, so it follows that a spirochete can encyst into a granule - and a small one at that. These are extremely hearty as Dr. Sapi has told us, but they are nothing compared to a borrelia L-form, aka L-body, AKA, cyst.
An L-body of borrelia is made up of aggregates of borrelia. My site has many examples of this - spirochetes in different stages forming L-bodies. Or even massive aggregates spewing out L-bodies.
I assure you that if you watched a bunch of my videos, you would see how diverse the L-body formation is. The only thread I was on before on this site, people watched some of a video and stated that they could not see any spirochetes. Since then, one of the largest chronic disorder websites had an article posting my video of what spirochetes look like under a microscope. I am not seeking attention by saying this, but some microscopic borrelia activists seem to have not thoroughly read Dr. Mattman, and do not understand borrelia l-forms. I have spent many hours going through all the science I could find, and just happen to have a situation where the amounts of forms in my family blood in even one drop is unbelievable, resulting in incredible amounts of aggregation and morphology. Maybe this is due to B. Miyamotoi in addition to Bb, but borrelia is borrelia.
My wife can have antibiotics in her blood and thousands of spirochetes forming aggregates and incredible number of giant large bodies. The Mattman long forms are always there, sometimes 10+ in every drop. These simple cysts in these BSK studies are not the extent of borrelia L-form abilities. My site also demonstrates numerous types of cyst or biofilm formation, with a bubble-like form being produced like a bubble machine from the aggregate, a form where numerous spirochetes enjoin around members of the aggregate to form a "cyst", or an aggregate of spirochetes forming a corpus that may end up an L-form or biofilm. And unlike a biofilm, which has
openings in the water channel structure where Stevia, or something else can get in, the L-form residual cell wall is a great defense. As Dr. Mattman demonstrated in Stealth Pathogen, and my site has in hundreds of examples. some of the members of the L-body aggregate form long, spirochetal-shaped morphologies within the L-body. These often protrude outside the residual cell wall into the blood or body, and can be used to farm nutrients and then go back into the L-body community. Dr. MacDonald took a frozen brain section after a year, and the L-body reverted back to spirochetes. Also Drs. Mysterud and Laane stated that "Our experiments show that virtually all the bacteria change into the cystic form in the course of just one hour. We can then expose them to almost any antibiotic medication, but nothing destroy these.
I am starting to think that most or all of the in-vitro BSK experiments of successful abx or natural remedies getting rid of biofilms have may not have much of a correlation with borrelia in vivo. People on this site have tried everything it seems like for years, yet here they are still trying things. This is why microscopy is so vital - as many are just guessing without microscopy that their remedy ABC or D has "gotten rid of those cysts or spirochetes".
Also the notion that borrelia do not form L-forms is absolutely incorrect. Most L-forms are not cell-wall deficient but can alter their residual cell walls to varying degrees easily. Dr. Mattman descibes this numerous times in Stealth Pathogen, and as noted earlier Dr. Zhang stated he believes in these forms including L-forms. L-forms can have a small, residual amount of peptidoglycan, or can have proteins that can bypass a need for PG. People really need to study the L-form scientific literature. Even wimpy bacteria have L-forms. Are we to believe that the mighty borrelia cannot form them? Dr. MacDonald and many others taught that borrelia have L-forms. His analysis of some of my early videos he stated, directed him towards L-forms. And those videos were the very first ones I did and nothing close to the elaborate L-forms I catch now with acridine orange. I think the lyme forum community needs to think outside the forum box and read more science.
Post Edited (JohnB2) : 11/22/2017 11:26:18 AM (GMT-7)