Carnicom protocol for Morgellons. Also Bartonella may not be to blame for your final hurdle.

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ChickenArise
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The Carnicom 'protocol' for Morgellons was first alluded to in 2012 by Clifford Carnicom an independent researcher at

/carnicominstitute.org/wp/morgellons-the-breaking-of-bonds-and-the-reduction-of-iron/
It primarily consists of NAC (n-acetyl cysteine) L-Carnosine, Vitamin C, and Whey Protein. His website is www.carnicominstitute.org where he discusses his findings. Acording to Carnicom the Morgellons invader that he tested has a very strong disulfide bond.

A variation of this protocol has appears on the Morgellons Shield website with an extra ingredient of Branch Chain Amino acids. I must admit the amount of NAC recommended in this version appears very low as Glutathione must be produced and utilized.

I would and do currently add sublingual Reduced Glutathione at bed time when it is best utilized to this protocol along with apple cider vinegar which is thought to protect the Glutathione from stomach acids which destroy it.

NAC is recommended as it is believed direct Glutathione supplementation is destroyed by the stomach acid requires its precursor and would result in higher levels of Glutathione but we also know the body needs other nutrients not present in the protocol below to aid in the production and utilization of Glutathione.

morgellonsshield.com/morgellons-recovery-shield-1/

N-Acetyl Cysteine (NAC) 600 mg capsules – take ONE capsule in the morning
L-Carnosine 500 mg capsules – take ONE capsule 3 times per day
Vitamin C (without rose hips) 1000mg capsules – take TWO capsules 4 times per day
BCAAs (Branch Chain Amino Acids) 1000 mg capsules – take TWO capsules 4 times per day
Whey Protein Powder – 1 scoop of a quality brand whey protein 4 times per day

Each item in the protocol plays a role in its function to disrupt the following process which Carnicom theorizes is taking place in the body.

He postulates that the Morgellon’s condition is in part due to a serious disruption in the amount of iron available in the human body. The "Morgellon’s growth” includes a harmful iron-dipeptide complex which results in a host of serious physiological and metabolic imbalances.

These imbalances are caused by the disruption of major body processes which include the regulation of metabolism by the thyroid, potential liver enlargement, a decrease of oxygen in the circulatory system, the disruption of the utilization of amino acids important to the body, the oxidation of iron, and a potential impact to neural pathways.

This creates a problem with iron transfer in our bodies. There are various forms of iron in the body. FE I, II, and III. Only FE II is usable to us. The Morgellon's structures keeps cycling the iron from the FE III form to I, and back again preventing the body from utilizing it thus stealing our iron.

The supplements he recommends are extremely important in breaking this harmful iron-dipeptide structure and allowing the body to begin absorbing iron correctly and stop the growth of this fungal like organism.

Of course it wont rid you of the extra bacteria, and other parasites that you likely attracted after becoming initially infected but after treating many of these additional infections and coming close to my previous state it seems this stubborn fungal element which mimics Bartonella is what remains, therefore I will be attempting this protocol and putting the family on it as soon as the supplements arrive as I am not making additional gains using herbal protocols.

After all maybe Bartonella is not responsible for all the symptoms that have been attributed to it and it is possible that Bartonella could be just be an accomplice or simply along for the ride or present and therefore being blamed for these symptoms which would explain why it is so difficult to clear using antibiotics. Also we have seen that some antibiotics have an antifungal properties to them.

We also know Bartonella and Mold sickness are indistinguishable so it is often assumed we have one or both and Lyme sufferers who cant get completely well are often said to havent addressed the mold (fungus).

We have learned that just about all of Dr. Fry's patients who can afford the $1000 next gen DNA sequencing test positive for Funneliformis Mosseae which otherwise would not be detected but could it be that its the stubborn fungal component present in all of us suffering from this so called tick borne disease?

How often do doctors treat the fungal aspect which is likely to be present after a lifetime of using antibiotics but never having treated for fungus which naturally covers our bodies from head to toe?

There has been a fair amount of conjecture of people reporting success with this protocol with lesions healing whether they be from Bartonella, Morgellons, Yeasts, or Molds.

I dont know that the protocol can be considered a cure as it suggests that supplementation efforts may need to be permanent, but if I can steal back the nutrients that lead to the weakening of my immune system and thwart the fungus then some addtional treatments might actually succeed.

I would suggest that those who have had a difficult time clearing just the remaining afflictions attributed to Bartonella or so called Bartonella like organisms, might consider attempting the protocol as favorable results have been achieved in as little as two weeks.

My question since this protocol is not new, is has anyone had experience with this protocol that can provide any additional insights? Have there been additions, deletions, or noteworthy observations or compliments to it? Thoughts?

I will be revisiting this protocol upon the arrival of the additional supplements needed and will keep you updated.

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   Posted 11/22/2017 7:40 PM (GMT -6)   
do you believe that morgellons is a result of Bartonella?

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have you read this site?

http://www.lyme-morgellons.com/morgellons.html

Somebody said...
The credible evidence strongly suggests that Morgellons Disease is a manifestation of genetic manipulation from a Rhizobiales order bacteria with an unknown genetic variant. Since Agrobacterium and Bartonella are so closely related the exact pathogen could be a Bartonella like organism. They are Rhizobiales order alpha proteobacteria. They are gram-negative and share some genes. Bartonella is very difficult to remove from the body. Morgellons typically exhibits this quality of being very difficult to remove from the body as well. In my research I looked at pictures of Bartonella lesions and MD lesions and found them to be very similar. In Bartonella you get "red track marks" on the skin, you also get these in MD. It is not only that the MD pathogen is tenacious like Bartonella and has very similar lesions but it is also that is produces the internal growth of tumor tissue similar to the tumor tissue in Crown Gall disease which is caused by agrobacterium tumefaciens

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   Posted 11/22/2017 8:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks so much for this information. I am so grateful for all the research you do and then share with us.

Keep us updated on how it goes with this protocol.

The websites were very straight forward and had lots of good information.

Take care and I wish you and your family the best of healing, Jo

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goshawk said...
Thanks so much for this information. I am so grateful for all the research you do and then share with us. Keep us updated on how it goes with this protocol. The websites were very straight forward and had lots of good information. Take care and I wish you and your family the best of healing, Jo

Thanks for the kind words of encouragement. I will.

Lapis_29 said...
have you read this site?

http://www.lyme-morgellons.com/morgellons.html

Somebody said...
The credible evidence strongly suggests that Morgellons Disease is a manifestation of genetic manipulation from a Rhizobiales order bacteria with an unknown genetic variant. Since Agrobacterium and Bartonella are so closely related the exact pathogen could be a Bartonella like organism. They are Rhizobiales order alpha proteobacteria. They are gram-negative and share some genes. Bartonella is very difficult to remove from the body. Morgellons typically exhibits this quality of being very difficult to remove from the body as well. In my research I looked at pictures of Bartonella lesions and MD lesions and found them to be very similar. In Bartonella you get "red track marks" on the skin, you also get these in MD. It is not only that the MD pathogen is tenacious like Bartonella and has very similar lesions but it is also that is produces the internal growth of tumor tissue similar to the tumor tissue in Crown Gall disease which is caused by agrobacterium tumefaciens


Lapis_29 said...
do you believe that morgellons is a result of Bartonella?


I believe that bacteria other than Agrobacterium and Bartonella are now capable of HGT. I believe this has been facilitated by genetically modifying organisms in the lab and inserting DNA from cross species in order to achieve a desired result such as better pest control. The problem is that when released into the wild HGT occurs with other organisms (some which have also been modified) at an accelerated and exponential rate which goes unseen and has unintended grave consequences.

Those who are responsible for setting this into motion do not wish to take responsibility for the chain of events that have been unleashed on the ecosystem and mankind as it has resulted in emerging disease that would not have otherwise occurred. The multinational corporations responsible will use their influence to promote psuedo scientific propaganda declaring these abnormalities as some sort of natural evolution that we are just discovering today.

I believe we can thank these 'persons' for flesh eating bacteria in the Gulf of Mexico and coastal areas nearby, newly discovered flesh eating parasites that did not previously have a taste for flesh, and a whole host of yet to be discovered creatures of this nature.

I believe Lyme and coinfections were an indirect result of cross species modifications and we will see more interaction of all kinds from species we would not expect to interact such as this publication details just one of the many over the last 30 or so years since this practice became extensive commercially:

Evidence of Transfer by Conjugation of Type IV Secretion System Genes between Bartonella Species and Rhizobium radiobacter in Amoeba
/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2938332/

Lyme is about 30 years old also. Coincidence? Maybe, but I believe many emerging species equates to many emerging diseases. There were over 40 Bartonellas last I checked. I wonder how many there are today.

I believe Morgellons originates with a fungus, an unclassified dimorphic yeast with properties of a known and DNA of unknown origin (of sorts with the interplay of all of the species properties from which it is comprised of along with some new ones, for what is a fungus anymore but mostly fungus?) and just like Sodium and Chloride behave one way independently and another when combined we can only guess what has been produced.

Although I do not wish to believe any of this was the result of intentional efforts to weaponize these pathogens I would be foolish to dismiss the possibility. Just because its scary doesnt mean we shouldnt discuss it. We are living in fascinating yet surreal times of extreme greed and deception in a world where common sense is no longer common and we should expect the unexpected going forward.

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Interesting stuff.

However................."Lyme is about 30 years old also".

Is something missing in your text,.. misprint?

The iceman had Lyme BB bacteria DNA. Willy "the lyme guy" who recently died, discovered it in the 70's.

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ChickenArise said...


I believe Morgellons originates with a fungus, an unclassified dimorphic yeast with properties of a known and DNA of unknown origin (of sorts with the interplay of all of the species properties from which it is comprised of along with some new ones, for what is a fungus anymore but mostly fungus?) and just like Sodium and Chloride behave one way independently and another when combined we can only guess what has been produced.


one theory I heard is the Morgellons is a combo of bacteria + fungus. So in this case the bacteria could be Bart, and the fungus some type of agriculture fungus. Either on its own wont produce Morg, but combine them and you have it.

Real quesiton is this: If you treat the Bartonella affectively will the Morgellons be also disabled? I dont know.

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there is no way to treat bartonella effectively. unfortunately this bacteria is even less researched than borrelia. nobody really knows anything so it is pointless to theorize. bartonella was discovered in the '90s and is mostly considered harmless parasite that becomes a problem in immunocompromised people. it only respomds to multiple intracellular abx, relapse rate is huge, it develops resistance ans grows relatively slowly....

it is VERY common, a study in Poland showed 10% of popilation has it and that grows to 30% in risk population.

"The prevalence of seropositive results in the risk group (30.4%), farmers (27.7%) and forestry workers (31.5%), was significantly greater compared to the control group (8.9%)."

/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/26047187/

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there is some research on Carrión's Disease, which is a type of bartonellla

so according to this study Streptomycin would be the drug of choice.

Somebody said...


Bartonellosis (Carrión's Disease) in the Modern Era

Abstract

Bartonella (Rochalimaea) henselae is a cause of peliosis hepatis and bacillary angiomatosis, and one of the putative agents of cat scratch disease. Specific therapy for B. henselae infections is not available. Treatment failures and relapses are frequent, especially following brief antibiotic courses, and this contrasts with the in-vitro susceptibility of B.henselaeto most antibiotics. We decided to test the antibiotic susceptibility of B.henselae associated with murine macrophage-like cells (P388 D1) and a human endothelial cell line. We carried out a bactericidal assay in this model and in axenic broth. In both models, only aminoglycosides were bactericidal. These results suggest that aminoglycosides may be effective in the treatment of B. henselae infections.

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very thorough article here, probably the bst on the net, on all treatment data avalable on all forms of Bartonella.

seems the best treatment is a combo of doxy + rifampin for the various types of bartonella.

aac.asm.org/content/48/6/1921.short

Somebody said...
Since 1975, rifampin has become the drug of choice for treatment of the eruptive phase of Carrion's disease (Table 6, recommendation AII) (66). In a recent study, 55 of 77 patients with the eruptive phase of Carrion's disease received antimicrobial therapy; 46 of the 55 patients received oral rifampin (10 mg/kg/day for 10 to 14 days) and 9 received i.m. streptomycin (15 mg/kg/day for 10 days).

Thirty-seven (80%) of the 46 patients treated with rifampin had a good response, whereas 5 (56%) of the 9 patients treated with streptomycin had a good response (Table 4).

The efficacy of rifampin has been found to be comparable to that of streptomycin, with the disappearance of cutaneous lesions within a month of therapy.

However, failures of rifampin treatment have also been reported (68). Rapid resistance to rifampin can develop when rifampin is used alone, and thus, rifampin alone is not recommended for the treatment of any Bartonella infection except verruga peruana. More recently, ciprofloxacin at 500 mg p.o. twice daily for 7 to 10 days has been used with success for the treatment of adults with multiple eruptive-phase lesions, as has azithromycin (67).

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astroman said...
Interesting stuff.

However................."Lyme is about 30 years old also".

Is something missing in your text,.. misprint?

The iceman had Lyme BB bacteria DNA. Willy "the lyme guy" who recently died, discovered it in the 70's.


Yes, you are correct the Borellia is way old. The symptomatic epidemic is about 30-40 years old. I think in many of our cases a fungal component is completely being glossed over and the bacteria are getting all the credit for our ailments.

Biofilms show they are all working together yet the fungal aspect is often ignored by many LLMD's

I am going to attempt to focus on the fungal aspect using Carnicom's protocol as I am not making any further progress approaching this as treating Bartonella.

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ChickenArise do you have access to a rife machine?

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Bartonella and Brucella are closely related

in this study doxycycline-streptomycin was the best combo

Somebody said...


Doxycycline-rifampin versus doxycycline-streptomycin in treatment of human brucellosis due to Brucella melitensis.

Abstract

Brucellosis is a common zoonosis in many parts of the world; the best regimen for the treatment of brucellosis has not been clearly determined. We have carried out a multicenter, open, controlled trial in five general hospitals in Spain to compare the efficacy and safety of doxycycline and rifampin (DR) versus doxycycline and streptomycin (DS) for the treatment of human brucellosis. The study included 194 ambulatory or hospitalized patients with acute brucellosis, without endocarditis or neurobrucellosis.

The diagnostic criterion was isolation of Brucella species from blood or other tissues (n = 120) or a standard tube agglutination titer of 1/160 or more for anti-Brucella antibodies with compatible clinical findings (n = 74). Patients were randomly assigned to receive either 100 mg of doxycycline twice daily plus rifampin, 900 mg/day, in a single morning dose for 45 days (DR group) or the same dose of doxycycline for 45 days plus streptomycin, 1 g/day, intramuscularly for 14 days (DS group). A lack of therapeutic efficacy developed in 8 of the 100 patients in the DR group (8%) and in 2 of the 94 patients in the DS group (2%)(P = 0.10).

Relapses occurred in 16 of the 100 patients in the DR group (16%) but in only 5 of the 94 patients in the DS group (5.3%) (P = 0.02). When relapse was considered in combination with initial lack of efficacy, 26 patients in the DR group (24%) and 7 patients in the DS group (7.45%) failed to respond to therapy (P = 0.0016). In general, therapy was well tolerated and only four patients (4%) in the DR group and two (2%) in the DS group had episodes of adverse effects necessitating discontinuation of treatment (P> 0.2).

We conclude that a doxycycline-and-rifampin regimen is less effective than the doxycycline-and-streptomycin regimen in patients with acute brucellosis

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Lapis_29 said...
ChickenArise do you have access to a rife machine?


I am seriously considering purchase of one, but I have no idea which one I should get.

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ChickenArise said...
Lapis_29 said...
ChickenArise do you have access to a rife machine?


I am seriously considering purchase of one, but I have no idea which one I should get.


I have a true rife F-117

excellent machine and the guy who manufactures it is available for tech support during business hours. very helpful with any problem.

yes its expensive, but once you have it you can treat anything.

I never got much help from my machine until I started using these DNA targeted frequencies. VERY powerful.

http://www.dnafrequencies.com/store/index.pl?type=human

the GB4000 rife macine gets good reviews also.

let me know if you get one I can help with tips on how to use it

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Chickenarise - how did you and your family do on this protocol? Love to here of your family's experience with this!
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

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1000Daisies said...
Chickenarise - how did you and your family do on this protocol? Love to here of your family's experience with this!


I and my wife are still on it. My son hasnt kept up but he is excellent since the larger HEPA filters were added.

I have fared well on it. It allowed me to stop Taking Fluconazole and not get that skin crawling feeling.

My wife doesnt have much in the way of symptoms but did have some at one time. For her the chronic constipation is the biggest challenge and this protocol and much else that we have tried has not had consistent result. We both have been doing ozone for a week.

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ChickenArise said...
1000Daisies said...
Chickenarise - how did you and your family do on this protocol? Love to here of your family's experience with this!


I and my wife are still on it. My son hasnt kept up but he is excellent since the larger HEPA filters were added.

I have fared well on it. It allowed me to stop Taking Fluconazole and not get that skin crawling feeling.

My wife doesnt have much in the way of symptoms but did have some at one time. For her the chronic constipation is the biggest challenge and this protocol and much else that we have tried has not had consistent result. We both have been doing ozone for a week.


ChickenArise,

I also have constipation since Sep 2015. about a month ago, I had my first breakthrough. I had diarrhea and then vomiting one day. Four days later, I had diarrhea again. That time something changed and ny gut felt much better. I was able to have BM on my own without mag citrate for first time in 2.5 years. Only lasted a few days. I had been taking Candicid Forte for 3-4 weeks up to that point. After getting sick, I stopped everything .

I started craving and eating more sugar and gluten. Two weeks later, I had abdominal pain again, so I got back on the Candicid Forte, and had gut improvements again. If I am correct that the Candicid Forte is helping the constipation, it is the first thing I've taken that's had any effect. Your wife may want to give it a try fir a month or two.

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WalkingbyFaith said...
ChickenArise said...
1000Daisies said...
Chickenarise - how did you and your family do on this protocol? Love to here of your family's experience with this!


I and my wife are still on it. My son hasnt kept up but he is excellent since the larger HEPA filters were added.

I have fared well on it. It allowed me to stop Taking Fluconazole and not get that skin crawling feeling.

My wife doesnt have much in the way of symptoms but did have some at one time. For her the chronic constipation is the biggest challenge and this protocol and much else that we have tried has not had consistent result. We both have been doing ozone for a week.


ChickenArise,

I also have constipation since Sep 2015. about a month ago, I had my first breakthrough. I had diarrhea and then vomiting one day. Four days later, I had diarrhea again. That time something changed and ny gut felt much better. I was able to have BM on my own without mag citrate for first time in 2.5 years. Only lasted a few days. I had been taking Candicid Forte for 3-4 weeks up to that point. After getting sick, I stopped everything .

I started craving and eating more sugar and gluten. Two weeks later, I had abdominal pain again, so I got back on the Candicid Forte, and had gut improvements again. If I am correct that the Candicid Forte is helping the constipation, it is the first thing I've taken that's had any effect. Your wife may want to give it a try fir a month or two.


Thanks. Its worth a try and has a lot of antifungal herbs. This price is best I've found so far $62.90 for 180 caps. Sound about right?

/gladdmd.com/store/candicid-forte

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The Spooky Central that does plasma is a great value cost option. I have a few of the Spooky-XM Generators which are contact only but most will tell you plasma is the way to go for best penetration/coverage.

Also love the Spooky software which has the largest frequency database in the world. Great place to start in terms of learning about frequencies for different things.

Lapis is referring to Charlene Boehms frequencies which can also be effective. They didn't do anything for me but everyone is different.

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   Posted 5/15/2018 9:49 PM (GMT -6)   
ChickenArise said...
WalkingbyFaith said...
ChickenArise said...
1000Daisies said...
Chickenarise - how did you and your family do on this protocol? Love to here of your family's experience with this!


I and my wife are still on it. My son hasnt kept up but he is excellent since the larger HEPA filters were added.

I have fared well on it. It allowed me to stop Taking Fluconazole and not get that skin crawling feeling.

My wife doesnt have much in the way of symptoms but did have some at one time. For her the chronic constipation is the biggest challenge and this protocol and much else that we have tried has not had consistent result. We both have been doing ozone for a week.


ChickenArise,

I also have constipation since Sep 2015. about a month ago, I had my first breakthrough. I had diarrhea and then vomiting one day. Four days later, I had diarrhea again. That time something changed and ny gut felt much better. I was able to have BM on my own without mag citrate for first time in 2.5 years. Only lasted a few days. I had been taking Candicid Forte for 3-4 weeks up to that point. After getting sick, I stopped everything .

I started craving and eating more sugar and gluten. Two weeks later, I had abdominal pain again, so I got back on the Candicid Forte, and had gut improvements again. If I am correct that the Candicid Forte is helping the constipation, it is the first thing I've taken that's had any effect. Your wife may want to give it a try fir a month or two.


Thanks. Its worth a try and has a lot of antifungal herbs. This price is best I've found so far $62.90 for 180 caps. Sound about right?

/gladdmd.com/store/candicid-forte


That's regular price. I got it 25% off through an online store my doctor uses. If you have a provider, even a chiropractor, they might could get you a cheaper price.
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