Diet for inflammation

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Kat1000
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   Posted 12/7/2017 8:53 AM (GMT -7)   
My LLMD things Gundry's Plant Paradox is the way to go to stop the inflammation. He still has me on antibiox and herbals, but he thinks this will get me the rest of the way.

Anyone tried this diet? It's based on the idea that lectins are bad and cause the inflammation. There are many testimonials in the book, but I wanted to hear from someone that I know is real!
pos for MTHTR single mutation; Positive Igenix IgG Jan 2017
March/Apr '17: doxy, Tinizadole. 5/1 samento and exchange mino for doxy. 5/28- switch mino back to doxy, added activated charcoal. 6/9 - stopped antibiox; staying with samento, red root and houttiya and supps. 7/10 added LDN; 8/24 rifampin, samento, red root and supps

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   Posted 12/7/2017 9:00 AM (GMT -7)   
Kat, I have not tried it. Just wanted to mention that I get my salmon from Alaska and each one is line caught and wild. If you are interested in the company, let me know (email). Excellent quality and shipping most everywhere in the USA on dry ice. We probably eat it 3 times a week. A little more cost than store bought, but at least I know how and where my salmon was caught.

The rest looks good. Restrictive, but good.

I don't see anything in it harmful. So maybe worth a try and see how you feel.

Kat1000
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   Posted 12/7/2017 9:07 AM (GMT -7)   
Peteza - my kids don't like wild salmon but will eat farm raised. Leaves me in a quandry.

I haven't finished the book yet but I was trying to read about it yesterday online. There is something in red meat (I'll have to find it later - initials/numbers) that supposedly is alien to our body and causes a problem. So I am thinking about reducing red meat.

He also suggest only 4 oz meat/bird/fish protein a day.
pos for MTHTR single mutation; Positive Igenix IgG Jan 2017
March/Apr '17: doxy, Tinizadole. 5/1 samento and exchange mino for doxy. 5/28- switch mino back to doxy, added activated charcoal. 6/9 - stopped antibiox; staying with samento, red root and houttiya and supps. 7/10 added LDN; 8/24 rifampin, samento, red root and supps

PeteZa
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   Posted 12/7/2017 9:24 AM (GMT -7)   
Curious as to what is said about bison. We eat that occasionally.

Kat1000
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   Posted 12/7/2017 11:10 AM (GMT -7)   
This is what I found about red meat. It was in an article saying no to bone broth. I don't know what Gundry thinks about bone broth - haven't gotten that far!

In addition to the whole lead issue, there’s Neu5Gc to consider. Found in red meat and pork, Neu5Gc is a sugar molecule that’s linked to serious health issues (including the formation of tumors, heart health issues, and inflammatory concerns).
pos for MTHTR single mutation; Positive Igenix IgG Jan 2017
March/Apr '17: doxy, Tinizadole. 5/1 samento and exchange mino for doxy. 5/28- switch mino back to doxy, added activated charcoal. 6/9 - stopped antibiox; staying with samento, red root and houttiya and supps. 7/10 added LDN; 8/24 rifampin, samento, red root and supps

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   Posted 12/7/2017 11:25 AM (GMT -7)   
We don't do beef bone broth so that is good and we don't eat pork.

However, I have bought organic bacon when I totally jones for it. Hubby will not eat it at all no matter what.... well maybe if it was the only food on earth. LOL

We have organic filet mignon but not often. It is super expensive. Still curious if bison has the New5Gc in it.

Kat1000
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   Posted 12/7/2017 11:30 AM (GMT -7)   
According to google bison has it too.
pos for MTHTR single mutation; Positive Igenix IgG Jan 2017
March/Apr '17: doxy, Tinizadole. 5/1 samento and exchange mino for doxy. 5/28- switch mino back to doxy, added activated charcoal. 6/9 - stopped antibiox; staying with samento, red root and houttiya and supps. 7/10 added LDN; 8/24 rifampin, samento, red root and supps

PeteZa
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   Posted 12/7/2017 11:34 AM (GMT -7)   
Darn it!

Kat1000
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   Posted 12/8/2017 9:55 AM (GMT -7)   
I'm really not sure if it's lectins or if this is another variation of atkins/paleo/keto, but I do feel better when I follow some version of these plans even "most" of the time.

I read somewhere that lectins are the new gluten. I've been gluten free, and apparently gluten free products still have lectins.

I was also surprised to read that if you're going to eat bread or rice, white is better than brown. Fewer lectins.
pos for MTHTR single mutation; Positive Igenix IgG Jan 2017
March/Apr '17: doxy, Tinizadole. 5/1 samento and exchange mino for doxy. 5/28- switch mino back to doxy, added activated charcoal. 6/9 - stopped antibiox; staying with samento, red root and houttiya and supps. 7/10 added LDN; 8/24 rifampin, samento, red root and supps

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 12/8/2017 10:32 AM (GMT -7)   
Kat1000 said...
My LLMD things Gundry's Plant Paradox is the way to go to stop the inflammation. He still has me on antibiox and herbals, but he thinks this will get me the rest of the way.

Anyone tried this diet? It's based on the idea that lectins are bad and cause the inflammation. There are many testimonials in the book, but I wanted to hear from someone that I know is real!


Like everything else, I'd encourage folks to read both sides of the issue:

/nutritionfacts.org/video/dr-gundrys-the-plant-paradox-is-wrong
nutritionstudies.org/the-plant-paradox-by-steven-grundy-md-commentary
/medium.com/@Kahn642/the-plant-paradox-and-the-oxygen-paradox-dont-hold-your-breath-for-health-14c146e0c414
/www.reddit.com/r/skeptic/comments/6u37ic/factchecking_review_of_the_plant_paradox_the

Kat1000
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   Posted 12/8/2017 11:37 AM (GMT -7)   
Hi Dude Abides - yes I've seen all those, but my LLMD and many testimonials state this diet can overcome inflammation. Every diet has naysayers, and just like meds, some diets work better for some than others. I was hoping to hear from someone that has tried it. The earlier version I tried in the Spring/summer did help some, but this one is even more restrictive. It also includes intermittent fasting which many support.
pos for MTHTR single mutation; Positive Igenix IgG Jan 2017
March/Apr '17: doxy, Tinizadole. 5/1 samento and exchange mino for doxy. 5/28- switch mino back to doxy, added activated charcoal. 6/9 - stopped antibiox; staying with samento, red root and houttiya and supps. 7/10 added LDN; 8/24 rifampin, samento, red root and supps

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 12/8/2017 2:08 PM (GMT -7)   
Kat1000 said...
Hi Dude Abides - yes I've seen all those, but my LLMD and many testimonials state this diet can overcome inflammation. Every diet has naysayers, and just like meds, some diets work better for some than others. I was hoping to hear from someone that has tried it. The earlier version I tried in the Spring/summer did help some, but this one is even more restrictive. It also includes intermittent fasting which many support.


I'm glad you've seen them. Hopefully, others will read them, too. That was my point.

You've probably seen the SelfHacked website and the few posts related to Dr. Gundry and Joe's "Lectin Avoidance Diet." If not, you can search /selfhacked.com for "Gundry" and/or "Lectins."

Good Luck,
The Dude

Georgia Hunter
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   Posted 12/10/2017 2:44 AM (GMT -7)   
Be careful of saying things like "lectins are bad for everyone" or categorizing all people being the same. We each have a specific bacterial make up that differentiates us from everyone. What is good for me may not be good for you. With that being said, there are things that "generally" help people like the recommendation of only eating 4 oz of meat per day. Many would benefit from this. Avoiding certain lectins could help people but their avoiding other foods could as well. Certain foods have ingredients that our body is deficient of and when we eat them, it helps our body function more efficiently. When this happens, our immune system works better and finds more pathogens to eliminate. This causes more inflammation. So that food seems "bad" because it causes more pain and inflammation but in reality, it is helping. We just have other issues that must be addressed. It can take many months to overcome a nutritional deficiency. Most people don't stay on a diet that long.
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