What are you doing to heal your gut?

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Rikky1
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   Posted 12/12/2017 11:47 PM (GMT -6)   
We all know that your gut is 70% of your immune system and if it isn't in good shape you're not playing with a full deck against these pathogens. Curious what are folks doing to heal your gut?

Girlie
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   Posted 12/13/2017 2:15 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm not really doing anything to heal my gut. So far, my gut hasn't been in bad shape...as far as I know.

I do take probiotics daily.
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Loutucky
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   Posted 12/13/2017 6:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I drink bone broth and dairy unsweetened kefir. I tried juicing cabbage which supposedly packs a powerful punch in healing the gut. My ND said to drink 1/4 cup twice a day. I could not stomach it. I've since heard that by adding some green apple to it makes it much more tolerable.

I use to take Thorne GI-Encap and it was good but I am sick of taking capsules.

Post Edited (Loutucky) : 12/13/2017 4:58:24 AM (GMT-7)


LilaJ
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   Posted 12/13/2017 6:56 AM (GMT -6)   
I am going gluten free at last,as have issued with not feeling like eating then feeling bloated ,think gluten is the new wicked

gabybee
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   Posted 12/13/2017 8:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I am gluten free, dairy free, starch free- i only eat meat and vegetables. I do probiotics twice daily, I take RESTORE for gut health, as well as caprylic acid and grapefruit seed extract for the candida, as well as garlic pills.

My gut was in bad shape because of lyme and then got worse through use of antibiotics. Once I stopped those and got on this plan, many of my symptoms improved- the rest I am treating with byron white formulas, BVT, and multiple supplements.
22 years old, symptoms started in 2013 and was diagnosed in 2015
HHV6/EBV
Lyme
Bartonella
MTHFR
ecoli+klebsiella
Candida

Treating with multiple vitamins + Supplements, Byron white formulas, and bee venom therapy.

LymeSick 🌟
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   Posted 12/13/2017 8:21 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm gluten free and take probiotics, but thats about it.

You can try Kimchi if you like spicy food. It has probiotics in it.

mm57553
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   Posted 12/13/2017 9:51 AM (GMT -6)   
I eat a super clean,basically Paleo diet. My LLMD also recommended a supplement called Restore for Gut Health (available on Amazon and elsewhere). I think that really helped too. I also take 2 different probiotics. I think healing mu gut was key in helping me heal.

BabsBunny
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   Posted 12/13/2017 10:20 AM (GMT -6)   
Bill Rawls explained gut health very well in “Unlocking Lyme.” I hadn’t had GI issues for a year and a half, but when I started doxycycline it got bad.

I took 2 weeks off abx and did the program he outlined- basically GAPS but some modifications. Lots of homemade bone broth, steamed veg, pasture raised meat, wild caught fish. I eliminated gluten, dairy, sugar, corn, soy, and peanuts because of personal reactions.

At first I had a lot of cramping and bloating. It subsided after 2 weeks, then I restarted the abx. So far it’s been fine, almost no nausea or cramping, less bloating, great bowel movements. It’s been very goof for me to do a strict healing diet. While off abx, I had to cut back my probiotics to reduce bloating. When I’m on abx I take about 220 billion CFUs a day.

I expanded the diet but would not hesitate to go back to strict if I get any more GI pain.
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

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astroman
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   Posted 12/13/2017 10:32 AM (GMT -6)   
My Functional medicine LLMD Dr wrote a book on gut health / immune relation. His protocol was pretty much adopted by functional medicine as the gut healing standard today.

Not like you need a book though LOL..

He puts everyone on this before ABX.

Not my "home brewed" imagination, this is the real deal:

Eliminate junk food, no: alcohol, sugar, wheat. Then go on elimination diet to figure of what your sensative to. Eliminate things that make you gassy/belch too. YOU and only you can figure this out.

Eat said diet. include:

-good probiotics like LVS 3. not cheap ones, not yeast either

L-glutamine powder or multiple capsules- heals the gut walls.

use digestive enzymes, cheap ones work too

good "greens" powder mix 2x day- google

Igg powder (forgot the details), hard to find and expensive

colostrum if no intolerance to it (first cows milk)

three months minimum.

My gut was pretty bad.

I no longer use the above stuff today, just eat a diet which is clean for me.
Had initial lyme symptoms late 80's, then again w/with bullseye early 90's. Ended ABX for Lyme in 2015. Rebuilding / repairing / fine tuning since then; member "10 Percenters Lyme Club". What an adventure this has been. Did I mention Hashimoto sucks?

Post Edited (astroman) : 12/13/2017 9:23:49 AM (GMT-7)


1000Daisies
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   Posted 12/13/2017 10:37 AM (GMT -6)   
Honestly? I don't know why, but none of us have gut symptoms - except for a minor issue here or there that is easily resolved. I don't really understand why since most of my kids were on long term abx (they no longer are).
I even have systemic chronic yeast issues for years, and it didn't cause any obvious gut symptom either.

So, we aren't doing anything specifically to "heal" the gut. (I do things specific to yeast, so there is some cross-over.) Having said that, I wish I could know the status of their gut health from all of their prior and current treatments. It's hard to know when there are no obvious symptoms.

I am very grateful. I just wish I understood why we weren't susceptible for this issue.
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

PeteZa
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   Posted 12/13/2017 10:48 AM (GMT -6)   
I'm a huge supporter of bone broth in our home. Very little water in my vegetable soup. I use bone broth. Most anything that requires liquid, I use Pacific brand, organic turkey bone broth. My faux garlic mashed potatoes (Cauliflower and roasted garlic) yep, bone broth.

My most favorite is fermented dill/garlic carrots. I get those from the fermented farmer online. I just bought a container to start making my own now. Since we are healed I also get their fermented granola from the fermented farmer- yep, I had no idea that could be made.

We drink 1 kombucha a day. We still do very little dairy, I put coconut milk in my coffee. We do rarely any sugar. Pastas are all lentil, or quinoa now. Bread, when we do it, is sourdough. And sauerkraut. Just 1 huge spoonful on the side plate a day. Oh and cilantro in either my salads or in my guacamole. And finally a sprig of parsley on the side of the dinner plate.

We also do a digestive enzyme.

When I was really ailing I did D-limonene. That stuff is amazing for heartburn or acid reflux. I cannot rave about that enough.

Tick41
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   Posted 12/13/2017 10:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Collagen Powder, and potent probiotics for me. Keto diet, no starch, gluten, or dairy. Simply grass fed meats, organic proteins, non-starchy vegetables, farm fresh eggs etc.

ArtAngel
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   Posted 12/13/2017 11:07 AM (GMT -6)   
I have been working on GI issues -
My naturopath said I would get the most improvement with diet changes and I did notice more energy after I changed. I took out all the foods that made me bloated - nuts mostly, or foods that gave me IBS - gluten, and some fruits especially paw paw. Then I went paleo on a trial basis and felt heaps better. My food bill went up but it was a good move. I had to give up lentils and beans they are hard to digest and I feel sluggish for hours after eating them. Having a food diary helps to work through the process of picking out what foods I feel best on.
With that I also started making my own fermented cabbage with my probiotics as a started as well as taking some other probiotics.
Ayurveda herbs for digestion helped and DGL.
Here in Australia there is a lot of hype about for bone broth fasts. You are supposed to drink only organic bone broth for 5 days straight. Haven't tried this one yet but anecdotal evidence suggests doing this regularly helps.
Rectal insufflations of ozone are supposed to improve things by up to 70% but I can't vouch for that one either - sounds good, ofcourse.

mm57553
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   Posted 12/13/2017 11:49 AM (GMT -6)   
I also am a big fan of bone broth. I love the Bonafide brand. It's in the freezer section. Whole Foods and Sprouts carry it. It's all organic and grass fed / free range.

Evanston1
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   Posted 12/13/2017 1:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Colostrum, VSL3, glutamine, Enteragam, dairy free, gluten free.

BabsBunny
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   Posted 12/13/2017 2:31 PM (GMT -6)   
FWIW, I can’t do VSL3 because they put corn products in it. I use Klaire Labs Therbiotic Complete powder
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Purrrsiankitty
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   Posted 12/13/2017 3:44 PM (GMT -6)   
i have had terrible gut issues. although not completely resolved, for the first time in ages, my diahrrea is resolving.

I take Green Vibrance with protein and collagen powder daily.

I am sf but I do eat very small amounts of gluten and daily.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 12/13/2017 7:03 PM (GMT -6)   
I've done/still do all kinds of things. Nothing has had any noticeable effect on my gut. All the stuff I read about healing your gut makes it all sound like if you just eat perfect food and take xyz supplements, you'll be cured. Not me. I don't know how to heal my gut. I think I have other issues. Whether I or any doctor will get clued in to what those are and how to fix it, I don't know. I'm trying harder than any doctors have, though, to figure out what's going to turn things around for me.

I've spent all afternoon reading up on HPU/KPU. I want to try the treatment presumptively. It's fairly simple and not too expensive. Basically just some more supplements to add in. Can't hurt to try. If it helps my detox pathways like it's supposed to, then it might help my gut as well. I think part of my gut problem is water related, too. The mystery water factor started in 2009 when my symptoms first started, but I didn't get IBS-C until 2015.

I got another clue yesterday, too. I got my labs back and I still have positive IGG and IGM titers for Chlamydia pneumonia, that hasn't been treated yet. I was reading Buhner's chapters on that today, and c. pneumonia gets in the digestive tract. He didn't mention digestive symptoms from it, though. Still, it's on my mind as a possible factor. I just started bidens pilosa and have ordered phellodendron (berberine). I'm really counting on the berberine to have some effect on my gut. ANYTHING.

bluelyme
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   Posted 12/14/2017 2:58 AM (GMT -6)   
tryed a bunch of crap ...finally tested with infamous gut parasitoligist found the three treated correctly now pain free ...and candida from abx but no more leaky gut . making kobucha , using 100 bil pbx and

aloe slippery elm and marshmellow root with ginger all helped

addressing hpylori and hcl/ enzymes helped digestion and gut

yancync
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   Posted 12/14/2017 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
DS hasn't had big gut/diet issues since starting treatment but he takes Primal Defense Ultra most every day along with kefir at bedtime and often with a multivitamin. I also add in one of 3 other probiotics with different strains 1-2 times a week. VSL #3, Hyperbiotics Pro 15 (pellet to get into gut), and InnovixLabs Multi-strain Probiotic, all from Amazon.

I've heard aloe vera is soothing along with the other natural items listed in others' posts.
Parent of teen DS w/ CDC+ Lyme test Nov 2015, late stage Lyme + mycoplasma, bartonella, babesia. Currently treating with antibiotics/anti-malerials, multivitamin, magnesium, Charlotte's Web Advanced CBD oil.

Website I started: ParentsofLymeKids.com aka Lyme Disease 101 for Parents

KB69
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   Posted 12/14/2017 8:33 AM (GMT -6)   
After 9 months of treating with oral antibiotics, I had to stop my Rx due to severe gastritis (I am now on herbs and IM Bicillin shots).

To heal my gut, I worked with a naturopath to figure out what was going on. A stool test revealed no parasites or candida, which was helpful in assessing how to move forward.

I used a natural product called Gastrex (it's okra based) religiously before meals (like a natural prilosec). I swear by it. I also believe slippery elm powder is like a band-aid for the gut. Amazing stuff. And, I've used Enteromend, which includes l-glutamine and aloe vera.

I also use 200 billion of VSL#3 probiotics.

Regarding gluten free diets. I haven't ever had an issue with gluten. For several months, I went strictly gluten free, and it didn't make a huge difference for me. So, I now refrain from gluten, but do not exclude it entirely from my diet, which is clean -- lean proteins, veggies, etc.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 12/14/2017 9:44 AM (GMT -6)   
bluelyme said...
tryed a bunch of crap ...finally tested with infamous gut parasitoligist found the three treated correctly now pain free ...and candida from abx but no more leaky gut . making kobucha , using 100 bil pbx and

aloe slippery elm and marshmellow root with ginger all helped

addressing hpylori and hcl/ enzymes helped digestion and gut


bluelyme,

Can you elaborate?
The "infamous gut parasitologist found the three" what? Three kinds of parasites?
How did the parasitologist find them?
How were they each treated?
How do you know you no longer have leaky gut?

astroman
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   Posted 12/14/2017 9:57 AM (GMT -6)   
FYI- Genova labs has the only leaky gut test I'm aware of.

Are there others?
Had initial lyme symptoms late 80's, then again w/with bullseye early 90's. Ended ABX for Lyme in 2015. Rebuilding / repairing / fine tuning since then; member "10 Percenters Lyme Club". What an adventure this has been. Did I mention Hashimoto sucks?

Irishlymie
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   Posted 12/16/2017 5:24 AM (GMT -6)   
my doc does a zonulin test with red labs every 6 months
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