Antimicrobial Activity of Bee Venom and Melittin against Borrelia burgdorferi (Lyme).

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LymeSick 🌟
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   Posted 12/13/2017 9:20 AM (GMT -6)   
22 November 2017:

Our findings showed that both bee venom and melittin had significant effects on all the tested forms of B. burgdorferi. In contrast, the control antibiotics when used individually or even in combinations had limited effects on the attached biofilm form. These findings strongly suggest that whole bee venom or melittin could be effective antimicrobial agents for B. burgdorferi; however, further research is necessary to evaluate their effectiveness in vivo, as well as their safe and effective delivery method for their therapeutic use.

www.mdpi.com/2079-6382/6/4/31

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PeteZa
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   Posted 12/13/2017 11:30 AM (GMT -6)   
I know of a local person here that treated with bee stings and healed. I was a chicken and stuck with my herbs but just so you know it is a possibility.

LymeSick 🌟
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   Posted 12/13/2017 3:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you so much PeteZa that's very helpful

Girlie
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   Posted 12/13/2017 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
We have a few members on this forum who are using BVT along with their other treatments.

One member, bluelyme says it has helped him a lot.

There is a story of a lady (Elie Lobel) who had Lyme disease and was ready to die...and accidentally disturbed a beehive and was stung multiple times...she went into remission.

Sorry - I can't remember the details - but I found her story :

/mosaicscience.com/story/how-bee-sting-saved-my-life-poison-medicine
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

bluelyme
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   Posted 12/14/2017 2:28 AM (GMT -6)   
bee venom helped me greatly .. from als to working pt and almost a person again. i have a thread on it . but ya proof we aren't completely off our rockers ... i do feel bartonella needs special treatment in conjunction and many that bvt worked for a while or didnt i feel have a gram neg or protozoa in the mix . better than diflucan on fungus too . if any one is in the sw or is willing to travel feel free to pm over on lymenet. relief didn't come until 9 months( so it aint for the faint) in and more so with bart tx

Post Edited (bluelyme) : 12/14/2017 12:31:11 AM (GMT-7)


gift&curse
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   Posted 2/15/2018 7:35 AM (GMT -6)   
BVT has completely changed my outlook. I, for awhile, felt like I was swimming as fast as I could against a stronger current than I could ever surpass.

I have wanted to write on these forums for so long but even the thought of signing up would make me annoyed like it was some huge deal that took way too much time( when I was doing nothing). I thought this was me as a person. fear &anger&sadness.because my symptoms had lasted so long. daily life for me was difficult.doing small tasKS would fill me with anxiety/fear... but because I knew this wasnt "me" deep down it would turn to anger...that is just a little peep into my psychosomatic difficulties that I never spoke about or even came to terms with personally.
...let alone my physical ails. ooowe all such a mind F.

anyways the bees. so I first tried a sting. def hurt. didn't notice much the next day I did 2. that night I felt pains that I hadnt felt in awhile but remembered when they used to occur mostly in my knees but pretty much everywhere almost like growing pains. I feel this was almost a retracing healing reaction (I love Dr. Wilson's take on things) I tossed and turned all night. the next day I tried 4 stings that night I had a fever of 99.6. I literally haven't had a fever in YEARS..and I usually have a temperature around 97.8. horrrrribblllee the worst muscle pains. unlike any herx I experienced before. I felt a pretty sick for the next 2 days. then BAM woke up from the best sleep I could remember. like childhood cozy delicious sleep & awoke with great energy. not frazzeled energy but calm lively energy.I wanted to do things. I ran some errands and had zero anxiety. I was just comfortable!!! found myself embracing eye contact and just LIVING. all the whiLe thinking kind thoughts about myself and others and really sinking into moments and enjoying them. like just sitting at a red light thinking I could do simply this forever if I always felt this way.

I am going to do my next set of bees tomorrow. after the last time I was very nervous to do it again. but it's worth it. BTW my temperature is now 98.6 on the dot. I read melittin(BVT) lowers thyroid hormones in the blood immediately after...unsure why that is.. but I think infectons aim for the thyroid to lower body temp and I think the BVT killed that infection! amazing

I have horrible tightness in the right side of my face, shoulders, neck and jaw. I stung myself directly into the jaw and haven't had any problems with the jawbone and below (neck shoulders) since. but the cheek tightness by nose and eye tightness remains. I don't want to sting my eye...
so annnny input on what really works for Bartonella I would be forever grateful... but my foot pain has not returned. feeling like a million bucks (with a wonky weird feeling eye) woohoo!
BTW I live in the southwest. near Santa fe, NM
hope this helps someone

Post Edited (gift&curse) : 2/15/2018 5:44:27 AM (GMT-7)


Girlie
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   Posted 2/15/2018 12:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi gift&curse - welcome to our community!

Wow, you've had some quick results with the bvt so far.

Please continue to post and update us as you treat.



We encourage all new members to read through the information in the thread: "New to Lyme?..Start Here!"
It's packed full of information. Even if you're not 'new' to lyme...there may be some useful information that you haven't seen/read before.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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