2 New Studies Prove What Lyme patients have been telling their doctors for years

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Lapis_29
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   Posted 12/14/2017 11:05 AM (GMT -6)   
2 new stuides prove a single course of doxy is not enough to kill lyme, infected patients may show no anti bodies on tests, and the persistor cells are both real and viable and can re infect the host.

/eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-12/tu-slb121317.php

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"In this study, we were able to observe the existence of microscopic disease and low numbers of bacteria, which would be difficult to 'see' in humans but could possibly be the cause of the variable and nonspecific symptoms that are characteristic of post-treatment Lyme disease syndrome. Although current antibiotic regimens may cure most patients who are treated early, if the infection is allowed to progress, the 28-day treatment may be insufficient, based on these findings," Embers said.

The findings also demonstrated:

All subjects treated with antibiotics were found to have some level of infection 7 - 12 months post treatment.

Despite testing negative by antibody tests for Lyme disease, two of 10 subjects were still infected with Lyme bacteria in heart and bladder.

Lyme bacteria which persist are still viable.



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Psilociraptor
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   Posted 12/14/2017 11:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Link seems to be broken. Do you have another one? Or a direct link to the two papers?

edit: Nevermind... google is a friend :P

https://eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2017-12/tu-slb121317.php

Psilociraptor
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   Posted 12/14/2017 11:24 AM (GMT -6)   
I guess I'm still confused. I'm not seeing links or citations of the two studies. Embers published a couple studies that sound very familiar to this several years ago. Is there actually anything new?

Lapis_29
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   Posted 12/14/2017 12:09 PM (GMT -6)   
Psilociraptor said...
I guess I'm still confused. I'm not seeing links or citations of the two studies. Embers published a couple studies that sound very familiar to this several years ago. Is there actually anything new?


ajp.amjpathol.org/article/S0002-9440(17)30894-5/fulltext

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0189071

one published this month, one last

Psilociraptor
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   Posted 12/14/2017 12:48 PM (GMT -6)   
Awesome! Thanks

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 12/14/2017 12:59 PM (GMT -6)   
Lapis_29 said...
Psilociraptor said...
I guess I'm still confused. I'm not seeing links or citations of the two studies. Embers published a couple studies that sound very familiar to this several years ago. Is there actually anything new?


ajp.amjpathol.org/article/S0002-9440(17)30894-5/fulltext

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0189071

one published this month, one last


I read the first one here. Great article and study. Thanks, Lapis, for sharing.

LymeSick 🌟
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   Posted 12/14/2017 5:43 PM (GMT -6)   
Big surprise for the medical community I guess, you'd be amazed what you can learn by simply listening to your patients.

Its just so upsetting, it's not like we all came together in the hundred of thousands, and said "Hey, lets make up this fake chronic disease and lie to everyone about it".

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   Posted 12/15/2017 12:21 AM (GMT -6)   
Lyme disease can persist even after treatment, Tulane study finds
www.nola.com/health/index.ssf/2017/12/lyme_disease_can_persist_even.html

Study: Living Lyme disease bacteria found months after antibiotic treatment
/www.news-medical.net/news/20171214/Study-Living-Lyme-disease-bacteria-found-months-after-antibiotic-treatment.aspx

Shocker... I am amazed and find this "unbelievable".
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