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emotions
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   Posted 12/15/2017 4:34 PM (GMT -6)   
I've had Lyme and confections for a long time. Episodes of feeling well and then crashes with major depression and anxiety mostly. Now I was Pos. muscle tested with My LLMD for Babesia. I have been depressed and anxious for the last four months. I have night sweats, achy heavy legs (not all the time), fatigue, and a slight heady feeling. Dizzy, tons of brain issues like not concentrating, not comprehending what I read, memory issues, some blurry vision but not always. I react to so many herbs, and antibiotics now that I get to very very dark places.

Because I don't have joint pain (had it many many years ago for 2-3 years, hip and neck mostly) and mainly anxiety and depression and fatigue, is it possible that the basis of the depression and anxiety is because of all the infections?. I am going for a brain MRI with contrast on Monday which probably won't show anything. I have always been looking to validate this because I don't have much pain like most Lyme sufferers anymore. Thanks in advance.
1992-Pos.Western Blot
1996-Active mono
2004-Hash. thyroiditis
2012-Positive Lyme Dot-blot,pos EBV,CMV,Mycloplasma Pneum.
2014-Active EBV, pos CMV, pos Myco,Lyme-Elissa, Anaplasma,
Bartonella-FISH
2016-Pos chronic EBV,Pos. Bartinella FISH
Currently fatigue, sweats, H/A, dizziness, anxiety, memory loss/brain fog but plugging along. Taking herbs

Girlie
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   Posted 12/15/2017 5:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes - if I'm understanding your question.


The infections caused my bouts of depression and anxiety that hit me a few months after lyme symptoms started.
I had never had mental health issues prior.

I was not depressed or anxious about my symptoms - not yet...as I figured I was going to heal and my life would resume..
They were symptoms.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
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PeteZa
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   Posted 12/15/2017 5:51 PM (GMT -6)   
Lyme is so weird. Lyme definitely can cause depression and anxiety.

With regard to your memory and concentration, look at poor Kris Kristofferson. They said he had Alzheimer's and it was lyme all along. His story is so sad.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 12/15/2017 7:39 PM (GMT -6)   
The symptoms you're describing sound very much like babesia.

Take a look at this article. In contrast to bartonella which tends to be characterized by pain, babesia is characterized by anxiety, depression, sweats.


www.gordonmedical.com/unravelling-complex-chronic-illness/babesia-like-organisms-bablo-consideration-signs-and-symptoms/

1000Daisies
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   Posted 12/15/2017 9:01 PM (GMT -6)   
I understand the doubt. I don't doubt our issues now but went through a period of second guessing.

Having said that, we generally dont have pain or joint issues either. None of us. We are all positive for Lyme. This is a complicated disease, as it can manifest in so many different ways depending on our own variables, like coinfections, viral loads, yeast, methylation, genetics, gut health, etc.

Honestly, I think the coinfections are generally underrated. Lyme gets so much of the attention, but the coinfections can be worse. Personally, for my family, I think coinfections are our major issue, not so much Lyme.
Kid#1: Extremely sick for several years, very difficult to treat, but doing great now!
Kid#2: Still sick now despite being treated for years but doing better (not well yet).
Kid#3: Generally good but relapsing off/on.
Me: Adv Labs positive 2016 (suspected I passed to my kids)-not as sick as others, mostly battling fatigue and yeast issues (heart/kidney issues resolved)
Treating with herbals now.

BabsBunny
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   Posted 12/16/2017 9:09 AM (GMT -6)   
Yup. Pain is not my biggest problem. Head stuff and panic, depression, malaise are the biggest. And I’m fighting a major Babesia infection (high percentage of infected cells). Night sweats, chills, fatigue, brain fog, occasional eye issues. Sounds exactly like Babs.
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

*twitch twitch*

magoo2
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   Posted 12/16/2017 9:33 AM (GMT -6)   
With the symptoms you are talking about I would skip the MRI and find a Cavitat and get a scan. A cavitat is a ultrasound of the jawof the jaw

emotions
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   Posted 12/16/2017 10:51 AM (GMT -6)   
You mean a Cat scan? And why the jaw?
1992-Pos.Western Blot
1996-Active mono
2004-Hash. thyroiditis
2012-Positive Lyme Dot-blot,pos EBV,CMV,Mycloplasma Pneum.
2014-Active EBV, pos CMV, pos Myco,Lyme-Elissa, Anaplasma,
Bartonella-FISH
2016-Pos chronic EBV,Pos. Bartinella FISH
Currently fatigue, sweats, H/A, dizziness, anxiety, memory loss/brain fog but plugging along. Taking herbs

magoo2
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   Posted 12/16/2017 11:43 AM (GMT -6)   
no I mean a cavitat scan.
Will show if there are any low level infections festering in the jaw ( often). Infection like that can greatly lower immune system and be a source of dental spirochetes and many bad bacteria. Infections like this are often the cause of brain fog- Dr Mercola's web sight has several articles on this.
Also can be cause of ear issues, balance issues, eye issue and sinus issues.
FYI-many lyme docs look at the jaw first
Its worth finding a biological dentist to check-if you find one with a cavitat that would be best. The one I use is in Phoenix

Kct
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   Posted 12/16/2017 11:46 AM (GMT -6)   
I too am having bad anxiety/depression now. Lyme is well known for its neuropsych disease. I was off an SSRI for the first time in many years ( what a mistake ! ) since in starting in May I found out my Cymbalta was interfering with mt REM sleep after a sleep study. Just started zoloft about 2 weeks ago, its starting to help a little but have this ringing not sure if it will pass. I have lost alot of weight and having difficulty with sleep which is difficult because I have sleep apnea and use cpap. I am always on the verge of crying, and my anxiety starts running wild with bad thoughts of losing my job, then my house. Its awful. The Chronic fatigue during the day contributes to the depression as well.

Chronic Lyme sucks

FYI my 2012 1nd 2016 Brain MRI were the same having multiple T2 white flares ( demyelination ) probably from Spirochetes is my guess MS clinic at Umass said I didnt have MS they i had an "overstressed neurosystem " I guess he couldn't say I dont know. They still couldnt explain my tremor, balance problem and tripping with my right foot ( which had decreased reflex response). Soon after that i was dagnosed with Lyme by 2 LLMD's.
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