Does anyone herx in their upper legs, without that normally being one of their symptoms?

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LymeSick 🌟
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   Posted 12/23/2017 7:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi!

I'm just curious.

Every time I take herbs (or when I took antibiotics for that matter), I get severe muscle soreness in my upper legs.

Then it goes away after a few days. Then when I stop herbs for a while, or introduce new herbs, it comes back again.

The strange thing is that I never have that symptom, only when I herx.

In fact, none of my symptoms are pain, my main symptoms are SEVERE fatigue and brain fog.

So I find it a bit strange.

You guys think I have a lot of these bugs in my legs?

So then my second question becomes, if I know where lots of them are, should I put something on my upper legs?

Like something topical? Or maybe something like DMSO?

I just feel like I should be taking advantage of knowing where lots of them are.

Thank you so much for taking the time to read my post. And for all responses in advance, it is greatly appreciated.

Dahlias
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   Posted 12/23/2017 8:10 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't, but I do have general discomfort in my legs when I need to detox. An epsom salt bath helps.

Does gentle stretching help?

Missouri
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   Posted 12/23/2017 10:02 AM (GMT -6)   
I tend to get leg cramps (usually upper legs) around my “flare” times. I believe my leg cramps/discomfort come around when the infections are most active. Not sure though. I have been charting symptoms for close to a year now and noticed about every 28 days or so a major increase in symptoms.

astroman
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   Posted 12/23/2017 12:06 PM (GMT -6)   
Can you be more specific than the "upper legs"? All over , front back and sides of thighs? Or hamstrings (back), quads (front), hip flexors (front hip/quad junction).

Your lacking circulation there. Do you sit at a desk a lot? Or the opposite, walk, run, or bike a lot, now or in the past?

These might be the muscles you just used a lot more in the past and as a result are just a little tighter than other muscles, but now its noticeable from lyme toxification.

The best detox for muscles is getting the blood moving in them and loosening the tissue. The new blood delivers nutrients. Out with the old blood, in with the new.

Have a bread dough roller? Use it on your front thighs, aggressively. For the hamstrings (back of legs) sit, slowly/ roll on a lacross ball ($3 any sports store) at the top of a stairwell with legs dangling down. Tennis balls are too soft. Unlike basic stretching, this is an actual form of physical detoxing.

Then apply epsom salt gel.

Post Edited (astroman) : 12/23/2017 11:59:52 AM (GMT-7)


goshawk
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   Posted 12/23/2017 12:38 PM (GMT -6)   
Mine is in the back of my upper legs and buttocks and feels like soreness mixed with (nerve) tingling/stinging.

All of I can think of is it feels like if I was slapped very hard but the sensation lasts way longer.

usually get it from herxing

This particular symptom is a precurser for more neuro symptoms that usually come after.


Not having it much this last month but I'm really trying hard to stay stable (no strong herxing).

astroman
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   Posted 12/23/2017 12:47 PM (GMT -6)   
There is also a product called Hylands Leg Cramps. Its magnessium and homeopathic stuff.

LymeSick 🌟
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   Posted 12/23/2017 1:42 PM (GMT -6)   
Wow astroman your comment was shockingly accurate when you said:

"These might be the muscles you just used a lot more in the past and as a result are just a little tighter than other muscles, but now its noticeable from lyme toxification."

Without giving away too much about myself on the internet, I used to do a professional sport, of which that is the main muscle group. So you just solved my mystery.

I can't believe you just guessed that, you're better than my doctor. Thank you so much astroman.

Also, I want to thank everyone else for the tips, I will be using all of them.

You guys are awesome.

astroman
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   Posted 12/24/2017 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
Lymesick- Wish I was that good of a guesser, then I could make money of it somehow lol.

I had/have symptoms from a similar past as yours (prob diff sport though). This resulted in seeking answer's for muscle tension for years, and Drs were of no help. My fellow competitors, some of whom I've known for many years, did not have this problem.

Lyme seems to bring out the worst of our bodies, past illness's, injuries and gene issues. Injuries big and small resurface. And little injuries while having lyme can become chronic in a long dragged out prolonged healing process. So if you find any old injuries resurfacing, this is not uncommon. Others have reported the same in the "lyme community".

I am now slowly healing injured body areas from years ago. Some were actual injuries and some were more repetitive motion issues turned chronic. My sport involved hours of endurance plus the likely occurrence of physical impacts so my body became toast as I did this with lyme, until it became to problematic, then I "retired" from it.

Many of us need a reset button.
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