Does the medical literature support chronic Lyme disease?

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LymeBasics
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   Posted 12/28/2017 12:24 PM (GMT -6)   
I finished a new extensive article about chronic Lyme disease. This could be interesting to share with physicians who deny the very existence of persisting infection after treatment according to IDSA guidelines.

Ofcourse it exists and ofcourse is it supported in the medical literature. You now have a solid story with references to share with your physicians.



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Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 12/28/2017 9:21:13 PM (GMT-7)


Psilociraptor
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   Posted 12/28/2017 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Great post! I noticed in the intracellular section nothing about neuron invasion was mentioned. Miklossy reported intracellular borrelia in the brain https://jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-2094-5-40 Just throwing it out there. Lots of good references in your write up regardless and interesting history I wasn't aware of

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   Posted 12/28/2017 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
LymeBasics - I edited your post to remove the link to your site.

Sorry, but it's against the rules.

We allow it to be announced once (which you did previously) and then it can be displayed in your signature line.
For some reason after I edited your post, the signature line disappeared.
You can go in and add it back with a link to your site.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

LymeBasics
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   Posted 12/28/2017 3:01 PM (GMT -6)   
Psilociraptor said...
Great post! I noticed in the intracellular section nothing about neuron invasion was mentioned. Miklossy reported intracellular borrelia in the brain https://jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-2094-5-40 Just throwing it out there. Lots of good references in your write up regardless and interesting history I wasn't aware of


Added! Thanks. This was the study I was missing with regards to the intracellular persistence. I knew Borrelia could hide inside neurons and glial cells but without the reference to back it up I could not state it in the article.

Thanks.

magoo2
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   Posted 12/28/2017 5:44 PM (GMT -6)   
just my opinion I wouldn't waste any time trying to convince a doc about lyme or anything alt. Might as well run east looking for a sunset

astroman
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   Posted 12/28/2017 9:04 PM (GMT -6)   
The "Stubborn Drs" cant be changed (male or female). There ego wont allow to be corrected by an inferior human (patient).

I had a gastro Dr tell me Candida cant be systemic!!!!!!!!!!!

(Then why is Diflucan am Rx used for it.? LOL)

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   Posted 12/28/2017 10:22 PM (GMT -6)   
LymeBasics - you can have a link to your site in your sig line only.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

LymeBasics
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   Posted 12/29/2017 3:16 AM (GMT -6)   
I am sharing an article I have written with valuable information. This has nothing to do with spam. Here is the link again:

Post Edited By Moderator (Girlie) : 12/29/2017 9:56:47 AM (GMT-7)


Psilociraptor
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   Posted 12/29/2017 7:13 AM (GMT -6)   
LymeBasics said...
Psilociraptor said...
Great post! I noticed in the intracellular section nothing about neuron invasion was mentioned. Miklossy reported intracellular borrelia in the brain https://jneuroinflammation.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1742-2094-5-40 Just throwing it out there. Lots of good references in your write up regardless and interesting history I wasn't aware of


Added! Thanks. This was the study I was missing with regards to the intracellular persistence. I knew Borrelia could hide inside neurons and glial cells but without the reference to back it up I could not state it in the article.

Thanks.


Yeah, it's kind of shocking to think there isn't more on it. I would have thought that this would have been evaluated experimentally since the brain is a primary target. And I could have sworn that intracellular localization in the brain was a well known thing. But every time I look it up, Miklossys is the only paper i find on it. And everyone seems to think this is an exclusively extracellular pathogen.

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   Posted 12/29/2017 10:58 AM (GMT -6)   
LymeBasics said...
I am sharing an article I have written with valuable information. This has nothing to do with spam. Here is the link again:


LymeBasics - this is your site, right?

It is against the rules. BUT, you can have a link in your Signature line .


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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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