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Georgia Hunter
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   Posted 12/29/2017 7:11 AM (GMT -6)   
Since I experiment with so many products, I decided to take nattokinase. I've only been on it for 3 days and I can already see effects that are intriguing. It has spawned a lot of research and I can now give an early report.

I noticed that I've had a big increase in nitric oxide and my joints are popping like they did when I was very ill. I noticed that each day, I urinated 4 times more than I normally urinate and that is with no change in daily water intake. The fluid is coming from somewhere but I'm not sure where. Several joints are starting to get sore or hurt from the increased oxidative stress caused by the increase in NO. Even more interesting is that my feces has changed back to what it was when I ate vegetarian for a month. I am not eating vegetarian now so that made me think of a GI flora modification.

Research into my GI flora modification hypothesis lead to showing that nattokinase acts similarly to red beans in that it stimulates intestinal motility, helps increase probiotic strains, and helps to eliminate edema. It just so happens that red beans ferment optimally in Bacillus and Lactobacillus strains so could nattokinase increase those strains? Both Bacillus and Lactobacillus bacteria produce nattokinase and an increase in Lactobacillus strains also increases Bifidobacterium strains.

I don't have time to finish now, but nattokinase increases Bacillus strains which produce surfactin (anti-candida) which also binds quartenary ammonium cations. Talk about a win-win.

In a nutshell, I think nattokinase modifies our GI mucosa to provide a better habitat for beneficial bacterial growth.

PeteZa
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   Posted 12/29/2017 12:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I would caution people that have a hard time with soy products to test the nattokinase very slowly before ingesting a lot.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 12/29/2017 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
Is nattokinase a supplement or Rx drug? Sounds great in theory. Unfortunately most things that sound exactly like what I need make me feel worse. Makes me to scream!!!

Girlie
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   Posted 12/29/2017 5:53 PM (GMT -6)   
WalkingbyFaith said...
Is nattokinase a supplement or Rx drug? Sounds great in theory. Unfortunately most things that sound exactly like what I need make me feel worse. Makes me to scream!!!



It's a supplement.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
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Georgia Hunter
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   Posted 12/30/2017 5:37 AM (GMT -6)   
It certainly isn't for everyone. I've put it on hold for a few days to let my system calm down a little. Four hours sleep a night for 4 or 5 days is catching up to me. Old knee and thumb injuries are starting to hurt again and I had a slight herx headache most of the day. Nothing unbearable, but it was there. It's the same story as before. I can ramp up my immune response but it just causes so much oxidative stress that I question the benefit vs risk. I could definitely see the benefit but I can definitely see the harm as well. I did see in the literature where it had anti-mycoplasma effects. Maybe low and slow would be a better option? Read again I will. I just saw the Last Jedi.
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