Quercitin with egcg?

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Szabo246
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   Posted 1/3/2018 5:18 PM (GMT -6)   
Buhner reccomends taking quercitin with EGCG, any of you combined these or was the EGCG on its own ok?

Not trying to cut corners but all these herbs and dr visits are costing a fortune! Anywhere I can potentially save I will!

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/3/2018 5:49 PM (GMT -6)   
Combined. He gives detailed instructions on the EGCG in the bartonella book. The below is taken from page 159 in the bartonella book.


1. Serum albumin levels need to be highish. If it's low, bioavailable levels of EGCG is low.
2. Keep EGCG in the refrigerator.
3. Don't expose EGCG to the air for any length of time. Will render it useless.
4. EGCG needs to be taken with soft not hard water. (I take it with distilled water.)
5. Don't take it with milk. Milk will inactivate it.

Bioavailability of EGCG can be significantly enhanced if taken with 1200mg/day of Quercetin or 200mg ascorbic acid (Vit C) or 1,000 mg omega-3 fatty acids will all increase its bioavailability. Quercetin itself is very good at treating cytokine cascade problems. EGCG is also more effective if combined with Japanese knotweed, Vit E, and/or NAC.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/3/2018 5:52 PM (GMT -6)   
Szabo,

I know you're transitioning off antibiotics onto herbs. Are you trying to do full herbal protocols for multiple infections? I thought initially you were just taking a few herbs to make sure the Lyme was not going to come back.

Szabo246
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   Posted 1/3/2018 6:01 PM (GMT -6)   
That was the plan, however I got my results back and it seems I have babs and bart too, want to start taking herbs for them and would prefer to stay with a herbal protocol but I’m seeing my doc on Friday so will see what he says

Szabo246
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   Posted 1/3/2018 6:03 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks for the above info, I have ordered the book just waiting for it, will get the quercitin ordered too! Does mineral water class as soft water?

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/3/2018 6:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Szabo246 said...
Thanks for the above info, I have ordered the book just waiting for it, will get the quercitin ordered too! Does mineral water class as soft water?
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I don't think so. I'm pretty sure minerals are what makes the water hard. Distilled water is real cheap. I just buy the gallon jugs at Walmart or the grocery store and put my quercetin powder in it and take the EGCG with it. Just don't drink distilled water all day. It's not good to drink all the time but I can't remember why - maybe because you won't get enough minerals.

Szabo246
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   Posted 1/3/2018 6:31 PM (GMT -6)   
Thank you walkingbyfaith, I will check out my local supermarket tomorrow smile

Purrrsiankitty
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   Posted 1/3/2018 9:12 PM (GMT -6)   
I had no idea about storing in the refrigerator. Label doesn't give those instructions... Wonder if pills have lost their potency.
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Loutucky
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   Posted 1/4/2018 6:52 AM (GMT -6)   
I didn't know EGCG had to be refrigerated either. confused
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