Parasite Die Off

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BlakeAlexander
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   Posted 1/7/2018 11:33 AM (GMT -6)   
My LLMD and I have recently suspected parasites so we have begun a parasite cleanse a few days ago with wormwood, clove, and black walnut which i take all at once in the morning each day.

Since beginning this I have noticed that when I am going to sleep at night I doze off and then quickly wake up in a sort of bran fog/confusion and am slightly dizzy. This happens for an hour or so. Besides this I have no other side effects/die off symptoms.

So I am wondering is this more likely to be a side effect or a die off reaction. I am leaning towards die off reaction due to the fact that I have heard that parasites are more active at night. Also I take the herbs in the morning around 8 am and sleep around 10 pm so if it was a side effect I would think that it would affect me closer to dosing. Please let me know what you guys think or if anyone has experienced something similar!!!

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PeteZa
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   Posted 1/7/2018 11:40 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't know about the parasite cleanse at all.

However, with lyme I had nightmares like crazy. I would wake up yelling and scare the heck out of my husband. Extreme panic and definitely disoriented.

If you feel it is a die off, those are toxins and you might want to up your detox regime by adding in some more detoxing methods.

Traveler
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   Posted 1/7/2018 11:42 AM (GMT -6)   
Wormwood is artemesia annua, which also treats Babesia - so you may be having some die off from that.
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
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Girlie
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   Posted 1/7/2018 3:18 PM (GMT -6)   
What Traveler said about the Wormwood and Babesia ^^^^
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sickofbeingsick00
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   Posted 1/7/2018 4:19 PM (GMT -6)   
I get die off from pretty much anything I take. Parasite herbs, lyme herbs, enzymes...you name it. Anywhere from ten minutes to many hours later. For sure can be die off.

magoo2
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   Posted 1/7/2018 4:37 PM (GMT -6)   
Sounds like a die off. Either way its good to treat parasites kill them off and you will be healthier

BlakeAlexander
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   Posted 1/7/2018 8:52 PM (GMT -6)   
If it were to be die off from babesia what should I look out for?

Is a babesia herx similar to classic symptoms of babesia (day sweats, night sweats, air hunger, chills, fever, cough, etc.)?

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   Posted 1/8/2018 5:10 PM (GMT -6)   
BlakeAlexander said...
If it were to be die off from babesia what should I look out for?

Is a babesia herx similar to classic symptoms of babesia (day sweats, night sweats, air hunger, chills, fever, cough, etc.)?


Yes, if you have die off from one infection - say Babesia - then your symptoms from a Babesia herx would produce more Babesia symptoms (usually). I have seen in others, as well as having experienced myself, where something more broad spectrum that I was taking created a herx with symptoms from several infections though.

One of the better symptoms listing that I have seen is this one, as it describes the differences between, say a Bartonella headache and a Babesia headache, which can help us a lot at times: conniestrasheim.org/blog/2017/3/6/a-deep-look-at-the-symptoms-of-six-major-lyme-related-infections
Herb only treatment for Lyme & Bart ended 12/11 - no active symptoms for 2 yrs -Herb only treatment for Babesia ended 12/12
www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=2977364
Had Lyme, Bart, Babs, RMSF, Ehrlichia, Myco, Anaplasmosis, EBV
New set of infections 8/2014 - still treating.
Come visit me: dogwoodtraditionals.freeforums.net/

Rikky1
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   Posted 1/8/2018 10:49 PM (GMT -6)   
You want to kick the parasites in the teeth? Go with Alinia or Ivermectin. They have very little chance against these parasite 'napalm' drugs. Babesia can hold up a while against these and won't ultimately clear it for most but general parasites/worms can't get much better.
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