Cherry Angiomas

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greatguy
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   Posted 1/12/2018 7:54 AM (GMT -6)   
I've had these since probably 15 years old. I read that these are signs of bartonella? If so, it correlates with my neuro symptoms.

But i've also read Babs can cause it? Did anyone taking Rifampin seen these resolve?

Mojkce
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   Posted 1/12/2018 8:41 AM (GMT -6)   
I have them as well. Not sure if it's Babesia or Bart. ONe causes the larger and one causes the tiny pin prick variety I have been told. I am also on Rifampin but so far they are still there. I wonder if they resolve after a significant level of the bacteria are gone from your system. I will be seeing my LLMD this Tues so I will ask as i have been wondering myself.

greatguy
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   Posted 1/12/2018 10:19 AM (GMT -6)   
Mojkce said...
I have them as well. Not sure if it's Babesia or Bart. ONe causes the larger and one causes the tiny pin prick variety I have been told. I am also on Rifampin but so far they are still there. I wonder if they resolve after a significant level of the bacteria are gone from your system. I will be seeing my LLMD this Tues so I will ask as i have been wondering myself.


Hmm, you seem to have things that relate to me, so may i ask, what are your symptoms?

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/12/2018 3:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Hey, greatguy:

A few months ago, I was researching the use of Systemic Proteolytic Enzymes, to help with some scar tissue along the tendon of one of my fingers.

Here's the thread: /www.healingwell.com/community/default.aspx?f=30&m=3942762

Anyway, the Naturopath from whom I bought the Zymessence enzymes also has a podcast and a couple of website where he posts informational articles. I started listening to his archived podcasts and made it through about 55 of them, before I burned-out myself and decided to take a break for a while.

Today, when I saw the title of this thread, I remembered that Dr. Wong mentioned Cherry Angiomas, in a few of his podcasts. So, I went back to his podcast site, searched the archive, and found one of those shows. The one that follows below is dated January 17, 2015.

naturalhealthpodcasts.com/PodCasts/dr_wong_show_265.mp3

In short, he states that Cherry Angiomas are caused by estrogen dominance. But, go to 14 minutes 39 seconds in the recording, if you want to hear it for yourself.

In the recording, he mentions two supplements (WHICH HE SELLS*) and an article to read. He has several websites and some of them aren't the easiest to navigate. But, since I've been reading his sites, listening to his podcasts, and purchasing some of his supplements, I'm familiar with his material. So, I'm including the links, for convenience.

Sinest: /drwongsessentials.com/sinest-herbal-blend-for-controlling-estrogen
Progesterone Cream: /drwongsessentials.com/karuna-pure-progesterone-cream
Phytoestrogen Food Sources: www.totalityofbeing.com/FramelessPages/Articles/estrogeninfoods.html

In addition to my purchasing and using Dr. Wong's Zymessence and Zinc Citrate, I also purchased the Sinest product. However, I've not yet used the Sinest, due to my wacky sleep schedule. Since recently quitting my job, I've been trying to dial-back my bedtime to sometime around 10:30 PM or 11:00 PM. But, I'm still struggling with the change. I'm just a nocturnal creature, I guess.

Dr. Wong states that, by the age of 50, most men have more estrogen than their wives/girlfriends. It starts, for most men, in the early-to-mid-40s, I believe I recall him saying. Certainly if they're doing/eating the things that most people do/eat.

The last time I had my hormones checked, I had high values for:

- Androstenedione
- Estrone
- Testosterone
- Estradiol
- DHT

The only place I have any extra body fat is a little in my chest (very slight) and probably an extra 10-15 lbs. (4.5-7 kg) around my abdomen. Some of this is likely hormonal. But, due to certain exposures in the Military, I suspect some of this may also be related to stored toxins. But, I'm just guessing.

Anyway, maybe some of this will be helpful in your search. I wish you the best.

Sincerely,
The Dude

________________________________________________________________________________
*DISCLAIMERS:
1. Dr. Wong sells the supplements he recommends, in the above recording about Cherry Angiomas.
2. Dr. Wong has also recommended comparable supplements from other sources, if people don't want to purchase Dr. Wong's products. One example is the use of the supplement "Myomin," rather than the use of Dr. Wong's supplement "Sinest." Myomin can be found at /chi-health.com/products/myomin Dr. Wong has stated he only receives compensation from the products he sells on his own website.
3. Aside from my purchasing some of Dr. Wong's products, I have no other relationship (financial or otherwise) with Dr. Wong or any products he sells or recommends. In other words, I receive no compensation or incentive to mention his website or products.

greatguy
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   Posted 1/12/2018 3:27 PM (GMT -6)   
Very interesting, but i'm only 22 years old and i'm skinny almost to faint. At 5'11, i weigh 150 lbs.

The Dude Abides
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   Posted 1/12/2018 3:57 PM (GMT -6)   
greatguy said...
Very interesting, but i'm only 22 years old and i'm skinny almost to faint. At 5'11, i weigh 150 lbs.


Well, crap. I suppose the Estrogen Dominance theory can be tossed out the window - at least, in your case.

I'm sorry that wasn't of any help. sad If you have any breakthroughs, I hope you will let us know.

Sincerely,
The Dude

greatguy
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   Posted 1/12/2018 3:59 PM (GMT -6)   
No, actually that means, i have hormone imbalances caused by lyme or co's.

Rikky1
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   Posted 1/12/2018 4:03 PM (GMT -6)   
my wife started getting more of these when she started treating babesia and she's got quite a few of them.

common wisdom is bartonella but babesia causes them also. Dr. J in DC believes pretty much everyone that's gotten infected in the United States recently has all Lyme, Babs and Bart so he treats all 3 indiscriminately.

Georgia Hunter
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   Posted 1/13/2018 5:31 AM (GMT -6)   
People with cherry angiomas may be estrogen dominant, I can't comment on that. But the angiomas are not caused by estrogens, they are caused by hyperinsulinemia due to insulin blockage from fatty acids.
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