Could EMF be the cause of my babesios?

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greatguy
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   Posted 1/14/2018 6:01 AM (GMT -6)   
I came to this conclusion after researching a bunch. If computers emit EMF, then could that be a casue for my frontal headaches, cause my job involves programming. Before sitting in front of a computer, about 10 years ago, i didn't have POTS and daily head frontal pressure. If it really is because of EMF and babesia, then i hope artemisin or something to treat babs will help.


What are your thoughts on this?

greatguy
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   Posted 1/14/2018 6:07 AM (GMT -6)   
If EMF is really the cause, then i don't have a future?!.. It's not like a want to do something else besides sitting in front of a PC, but as years went by, i kept getting more brain fog and POTS, to the point where now i'm home from college.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 6:37 AM (GMT -6)   
have you checked marcons??
have you been checked by a biological dds?

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   Posted 1/14/2018 6:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I don't even know what those words biological dds mean. Marcons looks to be related to staph infection, not sure why you bring that.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 9:49 AM (GMT -6)   
marcons is found deep in your sinus-in your case think frontal sinus
often times head issues are causes by dental issues-get checked by a biological dds. could be the cause of frontal headache

Post Edited (magoo2) : 1/14/2018 8:15:52 AM (GMT-7)


greatguy
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   Posted 1/14/2018 10:47 AM (GMT -6)   
It is not frontal headache, as there's no pain, but rather a swelling feeling as though my brain is going to explode in my forehead. Hard to explain, but definitely a pressure like feeling, but not pain.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 11:36 AM (GMT -6)   
again that easily could be marcons and/or dental.

do what you want but if it goes a couple more years I would check both dental and marcons. both fit your symptoms

Marcons testing is a cheap and easy nasal swab. A biological dental checkup will cost a little more but a checkup isn't to costly and can completely turn your health around for the better.
Best of luck

Post Edited (magoo2) : 1/14/2018 9:43:04 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/14/2018 11:44 AM (GMT -6)   
I just did a google and this is what I found --

What are symptoms of EMF sensitivity?
The symptoms most commonly experienced include dermatological symptoms (redness, tingling, and burning sensations) as well as neurasthenic and vegetative symptoms (fatigue, tiredness, concentration difficulties, dizziness, nausea, heart palpitation, and digestive disturbances).

I did not have POTS, but I sure had head pressure, ear pressure and lymph node swelling. I had lyme. Treating lyme and those went away. But they did not go away over night. It took months before the head pain or pressure went away. The ears feeling plugged, or whatever they were, went away 1st out of all of them. For the lymph nodes I did red root and lymph massage as shown by Heather on YouTube.

I often felt that I had more than just the 4 letter word lyme. It was incredulous to think that a tiny little critter could wreck such havoc in my body.

greatguy
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   Posted 1/14/2018 12:27 PM (GMT -6)   
PeteZa said...
I just did a google and this is what I found --

What are symptoms of EMF sensitivity?
The symptoms most commonly experienced include dermatological symptoms (redness, tingling, and burning sensations) as well as neurasthenic and vegetative symptoms (fatigue, tiredness, concentration difficulties, dizziness, nausea, heart palpitation, and digestive disturbances).

I did not have POTS, but I sure had head pressure, ear pressure and lymph node swelling. I had lyme. Treating lyme and those went away. But they did not go away over night. It took months before the head pain or pressure went away. The ears feeling plugged, or whatever they were, went away 1st out of all of them. For the lymph nodes I did red root and lymph massage as shown by Heather on YouTube.

I often felt that I had more than just the 4 letter word lyme. It was incredulous to think that a tiny little critter could wreck such havoc in my body.


That is reassuring that treating only lyme is the right thing i'm doing right now, but to answer any of your question.

1. I don't seem to have redness, tingling or burning.
2. I have fatigue, tiredness, concentration difficulties, dizzines, slight nausea, heart palpitation and slight digestive disturbances, which all are connected to lyme either way.
3. I have head pressure and when i stand from sitting, not always, but sometimes, i get light headed and my vision darkens for seconds, after which i get back to pre standing, but with a little fog in my brain anyway.
4. I'm 22, but i feel like i'm 80. Is this also how lyme feels? Well, i wish i only have lyme, bcuz that means i won't pay as much as i need.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 12:29 PM (GMT -6)   
greatguy said...
I don't even know what those words biological dds mean. Marcons looks to be related to staph infection, not sure why you bring that.


You can learn about "Biological Dentistry" here:

/iaomt.org/intro-articles-biological-dentistry

You can search for a Biological Dentist here:

/iaomt.org/for-patients/search

My Biological Dentist accepts my dental insurance, so regular check-ups didn't cost me anything out-of-pocket. However, I did have to pay out-of-pocket, when I replaced my amalgam fillings with composites. To me, the cost was worth it. Your health is an investment, not an expense.

Post Edited (The Dude Abides) : 1/14/2018 10:32:26 AM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/14/2018 12:44 PM (GMT -6)   
I've sat in front of a computer for decades - not consistently programming but consistently using it for emails, writing, reading.

My worse symptoms are my muscle pains. I've had some progress over the last 10 months. Some days, once I get past that first hour in the morning, I feel almost "normal." The last two days have been bad, bad, bad.

Everyone reacts very differently to all the different protocols and meds. You have to find what works for you.
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PeteZa
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   Posted 1/14/2018 1:07 PM (GMT -6)   
greatguy, I'm a long way from being a doctor - miles long.

So I don't know. What you describe in your no. 3 could be pots. You really should discuss this with your LLMD. There is a treatment for POTS. I have seen many on this forum with pots.

You could make a new thread with questions about treating pots.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 1:09 PM (GMT -6)   
EMF does not have anything to do with having Babesia, although those with sensitivities to EMF emissions will feel the effects possibly - and the chemically sensitive will as well.

Head pressure (no real pain, more pressure) is often attributed to either Lyme or Babesia. The only thing I've found to help with brain pressure had been Kudzu root. It's not very expensive and is easy enough to find any more.
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Girlie
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   Posted 1/14/2018 1:57 PM (GMT -6)   
As Traveler said - EMF is not the cause of Babesia. Babesia is a parasitic infection.


POTS and head pressure can be from Babesia (and also lyme)


I also have POTS and head pressure.

When you stand from sitting - take your pulse and see if it climbs. Do you have a blood pressure tester?
You can also use that...and see what both are - bp and pulse when you stand up.

When I stand up, my heart rate goes up to over 95 bpm. it's not quite as bad now.
I used to also feel the pounding in my head.
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greatguy
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   Posted 1/14/2018 2:03 PM (GMT -6)   
EMF influences babesia and parasites, as per Dr. Klinghardt. He will not even treat you if you still use PC and Wi-Fi that are EMFs.

I may be wrong, my memory is really poor, but i've watched one video with Dr. Klinghardt were he mentioned EMF and how parasites are becoming more of a problem for the 21 century than they were before.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 2:08 PM (GMT -6)   
greatguy said...
EMF influences babesia and parasites, as per Dr. Klinghardt. He will not even treat you if you still use PC and Wi-Fi that are EMFs.

I may be wrong, my memory is really poor, but i've watched one video with Dr. Klinghardt were he mentioned EMF and how parasites are becoming more of a problem of the 21 century than they were before.


Other factors can worsen our infections...but I was only responding to your statement about EMF's causing babesia.

While I think there are some people who are more sensitive to the EMF's, I don't believe it's everyone's issues - and they won't heal unless they remove all EMF's.

If you do have Babesia, I'd focus on treating that...along with whatever else you have (Lyme, bart...etc)

It certainly won't hurt to limit your EMF's - for peace of mind - if you think it's a contributing factor.
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greatguy
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   Posted 1/14/2018 2:14 PM (GMT -6)   
I know for sure i have lyme, but i don't know if i have bart or babs, since i don't seem to have the common sx, like drenching sweats or neuropathy.

I didn't know lyme could cause head pressure, so thanks for info.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 8:19 PM (GMT -6)   
For me, when I was really sick, EMF exposure really did increase the symptoms I had at that time. I couldn't use things like heating pads, electric blankets and such either - forget about being able to use a microwave. I couldn't think well enough to be online, so having a computer and wifi wasn't an issue for me.

As I healed, the EMF sensitivities have faded way in the background....unless I'm have a bad day. So I do pay attention to my EMF exposure still.

I believe EMF exposure can be a real big problem for some, but it will not cause an infection with bacteria or parasites, even though it can make healing harder for some, and increase symptoms for some.
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greatguy
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   Posted 1/14/2018 2:21 PM (GMT -6)   
I meant specifically EMF increasing the symptoms.

Before EMF exposure you have babs and you don't have any symptoms, after lots of EMFs, you start to suffer frombabs. I think babs is a common infection regardless if you have lyme or had been bitten.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 2:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, we do know that Babesia is a significant issue in most countries. Babesia is now being found in transplant patients in the US because the blood supply is compromised in the US (at least in the US).

about the only thing that can be done is to avoid as much EMF exposure as you can. I know in today's world, that can be hard, especially if you go to a work place that has computers (and what workplace doesn't now?).
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   Posted 1/14/2018 2:26 PM (GMT -6)   
I think if you are EMF sensitive it could amplify any condition.

A friend swears it made her lyme worse. She had her Smart Electrical Panel taken out of her home.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 4:06 PM (GMT -6)   
The best way to tell is take a wilderness trip away from electrical power. I do and feel no difference, no cell phone either - its all off, "unplugged".

It thought EMF only effects people with certain genes.

You could deliberately hang out under some high voltage lines (the big ones), see how you feel the next day. Not joking here!

Then you will know, and check off that box.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 4:13 PM (GMT -6)   
i'm not EMF sensitive but after being infected with lyme and babesia duncani for sure (positive via lab tests) i definitely am now.

my symptoms are all nerve related so not surprising that i would be impacted by EMF's. i'm almost 100% positive its the babesia causing me to be more sensitive to the EMF.

once you treat babesia this should go away. its definitely lessened for me as i've knocked babs down.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 4:26 PM (GMT -6)   
Always interesting to see everyone's experiences.

For me, it was neuro Lyme and Bart that made me EMF sensitive, chemically sensitive and in a ton of pain. Sure glad those days are over for me. It was pretty rough as it was a lot of trouble just to go get groceries with all those 'obstacles'.
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   Posted 1/14/2018 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
Traveler said...
Always interesting to see everyone's experiences.

For me, it was neuro Lyme and Bart that made me EMF sensitive, chemically sensitive and in a ton of pain. Sure glad those days are over for me. It was pretty rough as it was a lot of trouble just to go get groceries with all those 'obstacles'.


Rikky said...
i'm not EMF sensitive but after being infected with lyme and babesia duncani for sure (positive via lab tests) i definitely am now.

my symptoms are all nerve related so not surprising that i would be impacted by EMF's. i'm almost 100% positive its the babesia causing me to be more sensitive to the EMF.

once you treat babesia this should go away. its definitely lessened for me as i've knocked babs down.


Both VERY interesting comments. I have chemical sensitivities and EMF sensitivities. I have lab-confirmed Lyme and Ehrlichia and clinically diagnosed Bartonella and Babesia. I also have mold/mycotoxin illness. My EMF sensitivities were the worst when I was early in treatment for detoxing the mold before I even knew I had Lyme and co. I noticed it mostly when using the computer and especially my phone. My phone would heat up and burn my hand, and I would get woozy headed, and also would feel sharp pains in my body even if the phone was just laying near me without me touching it. I haven't had any noticeable EMF symptoms for a while. Could be because I haven't worked since the end of March, although I spend hours on the phone everyday, mainly on this forum. When I was still working in the office after my chronic symptoms had started but before I knew about the Lyme or the mold, my face would burn all the time and I would feel like I had a fever. I was always going to the nurse at work to check my temperature, and it was always sub-normal. Back then, I used to wonder if my computer was doing something to me, as I could feel heat coming from the monitor. When I'd get home from work, the redness and burning in my face would subside. (However, the heat/redness in my face inexplicably stopped in late 2015 after I got on reflux meds. I was still working in the office for about a year after that.)

Also, I've had constant worsened chemical sensitivities for over a year now. My Lyme doctor told me that mold and parasites are likely causing the chemical sensitivities. I have not treated parasites yet, BUT I did recently add berberine, which is quite potent against a wide variety of gut pathogens. Just today, I noticed that my chemical sensitivities seem better. Keeping my fingers crossed.

I guess my long-winded point is I've had all these things, and I haven't figured out yet what causes what.
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