Herbs/Supplements that Work on the Gut

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WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/14/2018 5:34 PM (GMT -6)   
What herbs/supplements have helped heal your gut?

I'd like to know what has worked for you, how it worked, why it worked, etc.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 5:46 PM (GMT -6)   
I use hops tincture to help calm my intestinal muscles (taken just before eating, as well as dandelion & motherwort as 'bitters' which help stimulate digestive juices throughout the GI tract. These herbs also have other functions.

Turmeric to help keep the inflammation in my gut down and in the rest of my body.

Quercetin each time I eat to help with inflammation and cytokines produced in the gut.

Digestive enzymes (HCL with pepsin) with each meal as I don't have enough of them any more (low stomach acid levels).

I'm using cistus incanus, which took me absolutely forever to use daily because I herxed so much trying to start it, but I'm now taking 2 cups most days (still have to give the innerds a break once in a while) and it's really helping to clear things from my intestines and they are working much more efficiently now.

Of course, my 3 liters of lemon water a day too!!

I think that's all I do right now.

Oops! I forgot to add that I take probiotics. Different ones depending on what I need.
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WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/14/2018 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   
Traveler said...
I use hops tincture to help calm my intestinal muscles (taken just before eating, as well as dandelion & motherwort as 'bitters' which help stimulate digestive juices throughout the GI tract. These herbs also have other functions.

Turmeric to help keep the inflammation in my gut down and in the rest of my body.

Quercetin each time I eat to help with inflammation and cytokines produced in the gut.

Digestive enzymes (HCL with pepsin) with each meal as I don't have enough of them any more (low stomach acid levels).

I'm using cistus incanus, which took me absolutely forever to use daily because I herxed so much trying to start it, but I'm now taking 2 cups most days (still have to give the innerds a break once in a while) and it's really helping to clear things from my intestines and they are working much more efficiently now.

Of course, my 3 liters of lemon water a day too!!

I think that's all I do right now.

Oops! I forgot to add that I take probiotics. Different ones depending on what I need.


Traveler,
I've been taking around 1,000 mg quercetin in the morning with EGCG on an empty stomach before my other herbs, per Buhner's detailed instructions on the EGCG. How much quercetin do you take with meals?

I've been taking dandelion, too, but with my herbs, and not before eating. I didn't know dandelion would stimulate digestive juices. I'll switch it to before meals.

I've been on digestive enzymes, probiotics, and curcumin for a long time. It's had no noticeable effect on my gut. I just recently added phellodendron (berberine), and I've been feeling rumbles and gas in my intestines. I'm taking that as a good sign, as I normally don't feel much of anything moving in my intestines. Before when I had gas, I would just have bloating and fullness until I farted (LOL). Now, I'm actually feeling rumbles.

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   Posted 1/14/2018 6:15 PM (GMT -6)   
I posted in your other thread about the Philodendron - I don't know much about it. I posted some information about what I found to work for me (cistus incanus) but it does sound like you may be making some progress with it! Congrats and I sure hope it's true!!!

I used to bloat horribly too! And that gas would just sit there, rumbling around, never leaving me. No farting!!!! UGH! What I wouldn't have given to be able to though!!! Ha ha ha ha!!!! Fortunately, most of that is gone for me now - although I'm sure if I stopped everything I do (which is a LOT), things would be more than happy to go back to the way they were -and I'd be stuck again.

I take 1000 mgs of quercetin with breakfast (not before), but I eat a fairly easy to digest breakfast most days - 1 egg, 1 piece of toast, and a half a protein shake. I don't eat lunch, but with dinner I use 1500 mgs of quercetin because the food I eat is harder to digest - usually veggies and lean meat - or it's vegetarian. Quercetin alone helped a little bit, but it seems to be everything combined that has helped me the most, so I would encourage you to do a little more digging to find what is the exact issue you believe is going on in your gut.

For me, it's the intestinal cramping, low digestive juices, inflammation (of course!), something and biofilms/bacteria in the actual intestines - at least that's what I've narrowed down so far. I do seem to have something happening in my upper abdominal area, but can't figure out if it's large or small intestines, so I'm still working on that part!
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New set of infections 8/2014 - still treating.
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Lapis_29
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   Posted 1/14/2018 6:23 PM (GMT -6)   
WalkingbyFaith said...
Traveler said...


Traveler,
I've been taking around 1,000 mg quercetin in the morning with EGCG on an empty stomach before my other herbs, per Buhner's detailed instructions on the EGCG. How much quercetin do you take with meals?

I've been taking dandelion, too, but with my herbs, and not before eating. I didn't know dandelion would stimulate digestive juices. I'll switch it to before meals.

I've been on digestive enzymes, probiotics, and curcumin for a long time. It's had no noticeable effect on my gut. I just recently added phellodendron (berberine), and I've been feeling rumbles and gas in my intestines. I'm taking that as a good sign, as I normally don't feel much of anything moving in my intestines. Before when I had gas, I would just have bloating and fullness until I farted (LOL). Now, I'm actually feeling rumbles.


the acitve properties in quercetin are fat soluble, taking Q with water on empty stomach is poiintless and does nothing. Q MUST be taken with fat or it wont work. take it with yogurt and a DHA supplement and dont be afraid to take 3 or 4 caps at a time.

Q works great with another anti inflammatory supplement called boswelia.

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   Posted 1/15/2018 12:08 AM (GMT -6)   
Try eating lots of bone broth also. Alternate Chicken and oxtail so you dont get sick of eating it. I made it with pressure cooker which reduces cook time to 90 minutes and forces the gelatin outside of the bones helping it to get inside of you.

I found this to be very helpful. Hope you improve soon.

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   Posted 1/15/2018 12:39 AM (GMT -6)   
Hi Walking,
I havent tried but I keep hearing about Slippery Elm.. Sounds like a multi-purpose herb:
"Slippery elm (Ulmus fulva) has been used as an herbal remedy in North America for centuries. Native Americans used slippery elm in healing salves for wounds, boils, ulcers, burns, and skin inflammation. It was also taken orally to relieve coughs, sore throats, diarrhea, and stomach problems."
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   Posted 1/15/2018 10:41 AM (GMT -6)   
My first "go to" is bone broth. I get mine from Amazon, but I think Vitacost is cheaper and you might want to check Walmart (someone said it was even cheaper there). It's just too big of a project for me to make it. I get Pacific brand and it is organic. I love the turkey and not the chicken or the beef.

I put the broth in everything. I drink it like a hot tea. My soups and stews and when most recipes call for a liquid, I throw it in.

For constipation, cherries. For diarrhea, blackberries.

For bloating, baking soda. Baking soda is a cost-effective way to reduce heartburn and indigestion, as opposed to other options like Tums and Rolaids, which also contain bicarbonate. Simply add half a teaspoon of baking soda to two cups of water. An hour after eating, drink this mixture to gain some relief.

I took the above paragraph from this site -- /draxe.com/baking-soda-uses/

Post Edited (PeteZa) : 1/15/2018 8:45:40 AM (GMT-7)


WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/15/2018 2:36 PM (GMT -6)   
Serfr said...
Hi Walking,
I havent tried but I keep hearing about Slippery Elm.. Sounds like a multi-purpose herb:
"Slippery elm (Ulmus fulva) has been used as an herbal remedy in North America for centuries. Native Americans used slippery elm in healing salves for wounds, boils, ulcers, burns, and skin inflammation. It was also taken orally to relieve coughs, sore throats, diarrhea, and stomach problems."


Serfr,

Yes. That's what I was hoping to hear about. I've read about Slippery Elm and Marshmallow Root being taken together. Wondering if anyone has used those and if they were noticeably helped. Also want to know how and when to use them in relation to the berberine (i.e. take them all concurrently or do one for a while and then switch to the others).

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/15/2018 2:44 PM (GMT -6)   
ChickenArise and Peteza,

Thanks for your responses. I did bone broth daily for 6 months. It had no effect whatsoever on my gut. I stopped the bone broth back in April when I got shingles. While scouring the internet for information on shingles, I learned about avoiding foods and supplements high in arginine and supplementing with lysine. A couple of months after that, I tried Great Lakes gelatin and got a bad flare up of shingles nerve pain. I'm much more aware of amino acids now. I still have 2 bottles of bone broth in the cabinet. I'm tempted to try it again but don't want to waste it.

I also read another thread yesterday that mentioned bee pollen has amino acids. I ate a spoonful yesterday. I think I'll carefully experiment with the bee pollen first.

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   Posted 1/16/2018 12:28 AM (GMT -6)   
You cant do this half way and expect success. Leaky gut cure from ALL angles:

D-Limonene, Jarrow brand; Its anti-fungal, anti-inflammatory, coats the gut lining, alkalizing, helps digestion, and is seldom mentioned.

Do not eat fruits before animal protein, as the slower digesting fruit will ferment, BLOAT and coupled with animal fat will double blood glucose. Eat fruit before animal protein,> no bloating, regular blood glucose..

Powdered "Green Drinks" in combination with probiotics and digestive enzymes.

Magnesium Glycinate, 400mg before bed, nervous system (gut) support and AM regularity.

Eliminate food sensitivities and all deep fried food, junk food, sugar, gluten, dairy for at least three months. Those, are, like it or not, inflammatory foods, even if you dont like to think so. This cleaner eating will also help in separating from any "food addictions". More veggies.

No coffee. Drink more tea if you need caffeine. Even caffeine tablets are better for your gut than acidic coffee. The $5 coffee at your coffee shop- forget it, its bad for you gut, and filed under "food addictions".

Post Edited (astroman) : 1/15/2018 10:33:12 PM (GMT-7)

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