The equivalent dose of tetracycline to doxycycline?

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greatguy
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   Posted 1/20/2018 1:56 PM (GMT -6)   
Can't find anywhere what is the dose of 400 mg of doxy to tetra? I need to switch.

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   Posted 1/20/2018 2:55 PM (GMT -6)   

Girlie
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   Posted 1/20/2018 3:39 PM (GMT -6)   
greatguy - we don't hear much about tetracycline - it's not a commonly prescribe antibiotic for lyme

We do see mino and doxy a lot though.


I can't find a thread on the dosage - but if I'm remembering correctly it's much higher than doxy - 2000 to 3000 mg daily.

What does your Dr. say is the dosage?
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added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
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greatguy
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   Posted 1/20/2018 4:42 PM (GMT -6)   
I want to switch bcus doxy seems to affect my gut causing pain or maybe taking doxy and eating dairy is doing that reaction (?), there's a side effect that doxy shouldn't be taken with dairy products.

2000 seems crazy, but tetracycline is easier on the stomach and is prescribed for lyme, from a known Yale doctor Dr. Steven Phillips, he prescribes tetracycline, he is not my doctor btw.

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   Posted 1/20/2018 4:43 PM (GMT -6)   
The reason doxy shouldn't be taken with dairy - is because it could reduce the blood concentrations...
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

greatguy
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   Posted 1/20/2018 5:07 PM (GMT -6)   
Can candida then be the culprit of abdominal pain? (around belly button, feels like it is the small intestine)

Girlie
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   Posted 1/20/2018 5:11 PM (GMT -6)   
greatguy said...
Can candida then be the culprit of abdominal pain? (around belly button, feels like it is the small intestine)


Yes, it can - here's a list - scroll down to read about #6.


/draxe.com/candida-symptoms/
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

greatguy
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   Posted 1/20/2018 5:53 PM (GMT -6)   
Ok, it most likely is bacterial overgrowth. If so, than fluconazole is required and what dosage is it usually prescribed? and for how long?

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   Posted 1/20/2018 5:58 PM (GMT -6)   
That differs depending on the LLMD.

LLMD MR says 200 mg once daily for 30 days. He says to combine it with Nystatin or an herbal combination.


Another LLMD has you take it whether you have it or not - two days per month...and I believe it's 200 mg twice daily.
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi

BabsBunny
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   Posted 1/21/2018 8:19 PM (GMT -6)   
Doxy does cause GI problems. I have horrible stomach pain every time I try to do it. Getting a compounded liposomal form helps with the GI issues but in a few weeks it still catches up.

I saw that interview with Steven Phillips where he said doxy is bad on the gut and tetracycline works well or better- so I too am interested in that route.

Every issue I’m looking into now - leaky gut, Candida, mast cell disorder, reflux, any GI issue- I’ve found articles specifically mentioning that doxy causes it or greatly encourages these disorders. I was on amoxicillin for most of my Lyme treatment and had very few issues, but kind of plateaued. When I switched to doxy, **** hit the fan (literally) and every time I break to do a gut healing week, I feel better.

I was on a constant maintenance dose of Diflucan and I still couldn’t shake Candida. Doxy’s just way too nasty to me.
Lyme, Babesia, Bartonella. Symptoms began 5/2016, didn't start treatment until 9/2016. Slow but steady recovery.

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   Posted 1/22/2018 6:17 AM (GMT -6)   
The tetra dose is 750mg twice a day. This is the original Donta protocol, and he would switch to Biaxin/Plaq during the sunny months. I did this back in 2010-2011 with Donta. And my current LLMD started me on it in 2015 with various other full time and pulsed ABX combos through present. I had taken tetra long term in my teens for acne and I never had any sun exposer issues, even with constant outside sports all day long.

She has also prescribed me doxy or mino in the past with other combos. I think her logic to try Tetra was just to change things up, and the returning trends to follow Donta's original protocol, but with adding other ABX.

Donta was a well published Lyme research professor and was a ranking IDSA member drafting their Lyme treatment guidelines. He casted the only dissenting vote to those guidelines trying to include chronic lyme dx. He is now retired from practice, but is still involved with Lyme research.

http://www.painfatiguelyme.com/Donta.pdf

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Girlie
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   Posted 1/22/2018 1:10 PM (GMT -6)   
greatguy said...
I want to switch bcus doxy seems to affect my gut causing pain or maybe taking doxy and eating dairy is doing that reaction (?), there's a side effect that doxy shouldn't be taken with dairy products.

2000 seems crazy, but tetracycline is easier on the stomach and is prescribed for lyme, from a known Yale doctor Dr. Steven Phillips, he prescribes tetracycline, he is not my doctor btw.


Found this - 2000 mg tetracycline daily for lyme used in this article.

/www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7829706
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Symp started April/2013; Buhner's Lyme May 15-July24/14; Igenex pos. July 3/14
Doxy: July 4-Aug.24/14;Zithro July26-Aug24/14; Amox + Proben. Aug. 29/14;
added biaxin Sept. 26/14
Disc. amox,added Ceftin Nov. 20th.;
Disc. biaxin added Buhner bart herbs Dec/14;Jan/15 pulsing Tinda (w/ Ceftin);
Abx/herb break Apr-July/15; July-mino; Aug. added Rif;
Nov./15 mino - to biaxi
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