Night Sweats - Herx? Or Just Coincidence?

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jackinthebox
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   Posted 1/21/2018 10:45 AM (GMT -6)   
I've been back on Doxy for about a week now (though I skipped a day or two because I ate something that made me sick). But probably about 5 times in the past ten days or so, I've woken up wet and sweaty.

One time, I was having a bad dream, and woke up sweating and breathing super heavily and loudly. The other times I just woke up hot and sweaty.

Two of the nights, were actually before I started doxy again, so I have no idea if they are related.I like to think it's nothing or just a herx kind of reaction - though I'm not really "herxing" during the day, but that doesn't mean anything. I know some people like to say it's Babesia. But I don't really have ANY babesia symptoms and tested negative.

Any thoughts? I'm going through that stressed out, afraid-it's-not-Lyme thing.

WalkingbyFaith
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   Posted 1/21/2018 10:55 AM (GMT -6)   
Sounds like babesia symptoms to me. I wouldn't hold fast to thinking you couldn't have babesia. Negative test doesn't prove anything.

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   Posted 1/21/2018 12:44 PM (GMT -6)   
jackinthebox - It's really difficult sometimes to suss out what is happening. Is it a herx? Is it a side effect of the drug...etc....

As WbF stated - don't hang your hat on a negative test for Babesia.

At some point in your treatment, you should consider a full Babesia treatment - at least a trial for a month or two.
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astroman
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   Posted 1/21/2018 9:04 PM (GMT -6)   
Most hypothyroid people experience night sweats- until levels are improved. Many chronic infections can cause low thyroid.

Most low thyroid symptoms are also the same as lyme symptoms (the whole body), which is why everyone here should be tested per free T3, freeT4 and TSH (all three).

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   Posted 1/21/2018 9:25 PM (GMT -6)   
Could be your immune system kicking in. might be a good sign

jackinthebox
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   Posted 1/21/2018 10:46 PM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
Most hypothyroid people experience night sweats- until levels are improved. Many chronic infections can cause low thyroid.

Most low thyroid symptoms are also the same as lyme symptoms (the whole body), which is why everyone here should be tested per free T3, freeT4 and TSH (all three).


Astroman - I AM hypothyroid. Just a bit, but enough for the doc to put me on Armour Thyroid. I'm about a week in to that, to.

Girlie & Walking - I will also probably retest for Babesia at Igenex, at some point, as the doc wants me to. I'm not in a rush however, because I'm pretty broke and I dislike putting drugs in my body in general, I probably won't be clamoring to treat for it unless I really need to. I've been feeling pretty good the last few weeks, even before I started my doxy back up.

Intuition
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   Posted 1/22/2018 6:25 AM (GMT -6)   
Jackinthebox,

I used to get these all of the time, both while on ABX and after I stopped taking them. I never figured out exactly where the night sweats were coming from - I just chalked them up to one of the many absurd side effects of Lyme.

I will say that these subsided and eventually stopped after being on the Buhner protocol for a while. I've been on it for 6+ months, and can't pinpoint exactly when they stopped, but I haven't experienced them in a very long time.

Hope this helps.

Szabo246
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   Posted 1/22/2018 6:36 AM (GMT -6)   
I’ve been having night sweats and have tested positive for babesia. Don’t k le what it means though.

astroman
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   Posted 1/22/2018 9:05 AM (GMT -6)   
"Astroman - I AM hypothyroid. Just a bit, but enough for the doc to put me on Armour Thyroid. I'm about a week in to that, to. "

- that is at least part of the reason then. A week in on new thyroid med will make night sweats. Your hormones are adjusting. Its more from the T3 than the T4.
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jackinthebox
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   Posted 1/24/2018 7:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Astroman - thanks so much.

You probably won't know this, but the last couple of days my neck/throat has felt tight and uncomfortable, right below my chin. I'm starting to think my lymph nodes are swollen on both sides.

I read online (that rabbit hole!) that it could be a side effect of thyroid issues, but I have no idea. I'm giving it a few days before asking the doctor.

A swollen lymph node under my chin isn't that rare, but now with BOTH, it's getting my attention.

astroman
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   Posted 1/24/2018 7:45 PM (GMT -6)   
Yes, the thyroid gland itself and surrounding area can get uncomfortable feeling when the hormones are adjusting. I even got hoarse from it a few times with a sore throat. It might have been hashimoto antibodies creating the discomfort- I dont know.

What I do know is each time it went away after 4-6 weeks- when the hormone levels stabilized.

Maverick6981
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   Posted 1/24/2018 7:50 PM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
which is why everyone here should be tested per free T3, freeT4 and TSH (all three).


Astroman, this is good to know! My LLND ordered all of these tests (and then some) for me to get done.

jackinthebox
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   Posted 1/25/2018 12:17 AM (GMT -6)   
Astroman, that is exactly what I’m getting! The sore throat/hoarse feeling.
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