Zoning out spells: Absence Seizures?

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MA10
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   Posted 1/23/2018 10:35 AM (GMT -6)   
Within recent days I have began to notice several zoning out episodes throughout the day. (and the longer I think about it, I feel like they've been going on a while but just getting worse.) It's like I just space out with this blank stare on my face. It lasts 2-4 seconds usually, and am usually somewhat unaware of what is happening around me. Like I may hear sound if someone is talking, but I am not able to make out the words often times. It's a complete zone out. A lot of times my vision will get blurry. It's like I get hyper-focused on something, zone out, then that something becomes blurry. It is worse on days that I am more fatigued, stressed, or in stimulating environments.

The other night at dinner I was focused on my phone then randomly looked up, zoned out, my vision got blurry, and then the sound seemed to fade away to the background. That one was special. They're not all like that. And sometimes I will be looking at my computer screen, completely zone out, and then snap out of it and ask myself why I am just staring at my screen.

But how do I know if these are seizure activity, maybe absence seizures, or if it's just some kind of extreme brain fog?

It is very possible that my brain is overwhelmed right now and having seizures because since January 3, I have started EDTA rectal chelation, a higher dose of Clindamycin, Diflucan for 10 days, Ivermectin, and a higher dose of Lamictal.

Can anyone share your experience with absence seizures or zoning out? Now looking at that, I may need to slow down on treatment. I am having almost constant headaches, depression, very bad short term memory, some sound sensitivity, anxiety, and whatever these are. Most of my symptoms are brain related right now. Thanks in advance!
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   Posted 1/23/2018 11:39 AM (GMT -6)   
MA10,
First, I'm so sorry that you are going through this! I didn't have any testing done, but I do know that I was having absence seizures for a while based on this:

Atypical Absence Seizures

These absence seizures are called atypical because they may be longer, have a slower onset and offset, and involve different symptoms.
The seizure still starts with staring into space, usually with a blank look.
There is usually a change in muscle tone and movement. You may see
Blinking over and over that may look like fluttering of the eyelids
Smacking the lips or chewing movements
Rubbing fingers together or making other hand motions
An atypical absence seizure lasts longer, up to 20 seconds or more.


/www.epilepsy.com/learn/types-seizures/absence-seizures

No matter if they are verifiable seizures or not, I would encourage you to slow down your treatments and increase your detoxing right now to ease those symptoms.

I noticed that almost all of my seizure activities were connected to an overload of toxins. This may or may not be the case for you though. If your LLMD doesn't understand or believe you, believe in yourself, because this can turn serious.
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   Posted 1/23/2018 11:52 AM (GMT -6)   
Traveler, what do you think the most logical thing would be to cut out? We were ideally doing the chelation with the parasite protocol to help offset the load of metals that the parasites release when they die. We were intending to do the same thing with the cholestyramine for the mold that might be released. But I'm wondering if the EDTA could be causing more damage than good right now. If it is moving mercury into my brain, plus the overload of toxins from the other protocols, I feel like it could be a major problem.

I don't know what else I need to do for detox. I'm doing coffee enemas every other day with the chelation. Maybe everyday? I have a sauna, but I'm not able to sweat well. Doing cholestyramine, dry brushing, oil pulling, and intend to add castor oil packs back in. But that's about it. And I need to be doing all of them everyday. Not spacing them out with some every other day. Any suggestions would be welcomed!
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   Posted 1/23/2018 12:05 PM (GMT -6)   
Quite honestly, MA - you would likely know more than I or even the doctor would. What do you feel was the tipping point for your body?

And, rather than stopping something completely - can you go to lowered doses instead? I don't know what all your doctor is basing this on, but if it's testing, you can request more testing to see where you stand now with those issues and then determine what you may be able to push to the back burner for a bit until you get things to settle back down some.

You would need to check to be sure that these things won't interact or interfere too much with what your treatments are, but.....
What about milk thistle for your liver?
You could consider adding Quercetin to help with inflammation and toxins in the intestines.
Red root, or other lymph mover/cleanser?
Something for inflammation would likely be a big help too. I prefer to use naturals, so I use turmeric w/black pepper, ginger, bromelain for inflammation.

I would be very cautious adding in any more binders, due to the things you are treating right now though.

Hopefully others will be along soon with more suggestions.
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   Posted 1/23/2018 12:55 PM (GMT -6)   
It's really hard to tell because it all happened so fast, but the two I added most frequently were the ivermectin and diflucan. Good news is that the diflucan is finished now. So maybe I just have some detox catching up to do from that one. I also added a higher dose of lamictal this week, which is strange because I would think it would help the seizures, not make them worse. I have the most headaches are chelation though. Like it's moving things around. I haven't really noticed much per se with the ivermectin, but it could be causing the problem and I have no clue. I'll just focus on upping the detox and see if things even out any past the diflucan. I also go back down to a lower dose of lamictal next week, so maybe my brain can calm down.
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   Posted 1/23/2018 3:16 PM (GMT -6)   
Hi MA10. I rarely sign in here anymore, but I do read questions from time to time, and I feel I have to weigh in here and tell you my experience, or rather that of my companion who either contracted Lyme on his own or from me over the years.

This past Halloween afternoon I found him lying flat on his back several yards down my driveway. He was conscious, but completely without comprehension, and for some time, unable to move. I'll spare you the details, but he was diagnoses in the E.R. with focal seizure epilepsy.

I balked at the epilepsy diagnosis, but didn't know the seizures of this kind are not what we usually associate with it. Some of the symptoms he had been exhibiting for a very long time - years even. Such as the finger rubbing, spacing out, etc.

My research while he spent 3 days in the hospital matched what I found on line. I will leave you with two links. The code may be very wonky, but will work (I hope). There are 2 things I want to cue you in about, one is Focal Seizures can be caused by a bacterial infection, a Lyme is certainly a qualifier. And 2, the culprit is a damaged vagus nerve, and Lyme can infect it.

Keep in mind that my friend is now longer allowed to drive until he is at least 6 months seizure free. He's taking a medication but I don't see any difference in him at all. But thankfully I haven't found him flat on his back anywhere again, and pray to God I never do.

Good luck and best wishes to you, that you can get a handle on this and get better.


You will have to lighlight each code, and then click on "go to....." then it will work.

/r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrTcdTun2dapMQALysPxQt.;_ylu=X3oDMTByb2lvbXVuBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDBHNlYwNzcg--/RV=2/RE=1516769390/RO=10/RU=https%3a%2F%2Fwww.epilepsynewengland.org%2Ffocal-impaired-awareness-seizures/RK=2/RS=VT8voMWN9otq0SrkK_u6n8YBmLk-

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   Posted 1/23/2018 3:19 PM (GMT -6)   
P.S. MA10. Stress, missing meals, and everything Traveler mentioned can push your system over enough to cause this, so those are two additional factors to be watchful over.
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MA10
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   Posted 1/23/2018 3:31 PM (GMT -6)   
julymorning, thanks so much for the info! I didn't know about the vagus nerve involvement. That's interesting. So glad your friend had you there to help him!

It's interesting that you say that about the stress and missing meals. Now that you mention it, missing meals actually very well could be a trigger for me right now. I've noticed low blood sugar plays into it. Thanks for making that connection for me.
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   Posted 1/23/2018 3:45 PM (GMT -6)   
His episodes can be really odd. I came out into the living room to say something to him, and he was standing in front of the tv. He turned to look at me and what I saw made me stop mid-sentence. He had been brushing his teeth, obviously, his toothbrush was in his hand. He had 4 massive trails of white toothpaste/saliva trails down his chin with matching trails streaking down his tshirt.

All I could do was mumble something about drooling toothpaste, and saw him swipe at his shirt as I ran for my room.
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   Posted 1/23/2018 4:57 PM (GMT -6)   
MA10 said...
Within recent days I have began to notice several zoning out episodes throughout the day. (and the longer I think about it, I feel like they've been going on a while but just getting worse.) It's like I just space out with this blank stare on my face. It lasts 2-4 seconds usually, and am usually somewhat unaware of what is happening around me. Like I may hear sound if someone is talking, but I am not able to make out the words often times. It's a complete zone out. A lot of times my vision will get blurry. It's like I get hyper-focused on something, zone out, then that something becomes blurry. It is worse on days that I am more fatigued, stressed, or in stimulating environments.

The other night at dinner I was focused on my phone then randomly looked up, zoned out, my vision got blurry, and then the sound seemed to fade away to the background.


You describe exactly the "zoning out" episodes that happened to me as well only after lyme.

It's for a few seconds, where I catch myself and realize it's happening and I snap out of it.

While I was reading your post, I said to myself "me too, however my vision gets blurry", then I kept reading and you mention yours does too. And I was like "YES!, exactly like me".

I contribute it to "brain fog". When I take herbs and supps specifically for brain fog it doesn't happen.

Like many other lyme symptoms it happens in cycles. I'll go weeks, maybe months without it happening but then have like week where it's happening.

I just put something like this in the natural herxing cycle that we lymies go through, throughout life.
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   Posted 1/24/2018 11:50 AM (GMT -6)   
dacarte3, that's kind of what I'm wondering if it is. That's what I've always attributed it to. But the symptoms sound just like an absence seizure. Whatever it is, it's inconvenient and dangerous at times.

Do share! What herbs and supplements do you take for brain fog? Maybe that would be a good way to test and see if it is just brain fog. It could be that the seizures are caused by brain toxicity, and your herbs and supplements help clean out the brain. Thanks for the info!
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   Posted 1/24/2018 1:25 PM (GMT -6)   
I get those absence seizures too. I only notice them if I try to drive. It's really scary. I will zone out while I think I'm paying attention. I agree that it's probably caused by toxins.

MA10
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   Posted 1/24/2018 3:12 PM (GMT -6)   
Notime4lyme, I wonder if I should be concerned about them or if they are just another part of having lyme. In theory, if I just detox a bunch then I shouldn't have them anymore. I decided to slow down on my treatment some today.
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   Posted 1/24/2018 7:52 PM (GMT -6)   
MA10 said...
dacarte3, that's kind of what I'm wondering if it is. That's what I've always attributed it to. But the symptoms sound just like an absence seizure. Whatever it is, it's inconvenient and dangerous at times.

Do share! What herbs and supplements do you take for brain fog? Maybe that would be a good way to test and see if it is just brain fog. It could be that the seizures are caused by brain toxicity, and your herbs and supplements help clean out the brain. Thanks for the info!


The herbs I've had success with that helps with cognitive/neuro symptoms are:

1. Pinella
2. Burbur
3. Choline (the molecule that give certain foods the nickname "brain food", like fish and eggs)
4. EGCG (green tea extract)
5. Huperzine A (chinese club moss).
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   Posted 1/25/2018 12:46 PM (GMT -6)   
Thanks so much! I have run out of burbor and pinnella. Maybe that would be a good addition. I haven't heard of the other ones. I'll check them out.
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   Posted 1/25/2018 1:27 PM (GMT -6)   
"zoning out"........as in lethargic? That can be a hypothyoid symptom too, and I see your Hashi in your signature line.

Personally I think lethargic episodes are your brains way of taking a nap while your body is awake. When this happened to me, my eyes would lock in blank stare and people would notice! My brain was in la la land for 10-15 seconds. I could see fine, but was not aware of what my site was focused on, since I was not focused.

I had short term vision / blindness problems but that was after waking in the AM, not some lethargic episode, was not related.

Post Edited (astroman) : 1/25/2018 12:32:57 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/25/2018 1:44 PM (GMT -6)   
Back at the start 2017 after a lot of research and having had a previous tick bite and rash I was sure I had lyme I had tons of symptoms but was struggling to get a diagnosis, I felt worse and worse but was told it couldnt be lyme as it doesnt exist here in Spain.

I started getting muscle twitches, but the docs told me it was nothing to worry about then in august i had a grand mal seizure and was rushed to the ER. I have since been diagnosed with jeuvenile epilepsy (im 36) and the twitches put down to myoclonic jerks, another type of epilepsy.

I have also during this time privately tested positive for lyme, upon starting treatment for lyme as my symptoms increased so did the twitches.

I am absolutely sure lyme is the cause of the epilepsy as I never had any issues before i was bitten but my neurologist still doesnt believe me and just prescribed drugs to treat the epilepsy.

The epilepsy meds have helped masively with the muscles twitching which was driving me crazy and i have not had a seizure since so they have helped me but im sure its all down to lyme. I plan on taking the epilepsy meds until the lyme symptoms are gone then i will try to come of them slowly.

Post Edited (Spanish) : 1/25/2018 12:48:30 PM (GMT-7)


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   Posted 1/25/2018 6:00 PM (GMT -6)   
Astroman, I’m normally spacey. Just kind of in my own world. But these seem a little different. Sometimes I catch myself thinking about something and then spacing out. But these kind of seem to just happen. I can be fully focused on something and then go to full unfocused and just blank. A lot of times I’m not thinking about anything when these happen. But yes, I do agree. A lot of my spacing out is legarthic spacing. Like I’m too tired to think.

Thanks for sharing your experience, Spanish. Good luck treating! It’s my hope that your seizures will slowly go away as you kill the bugs.
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   Posted 1/25/2018 6:39 PM (GMT -6)   
I've always written it off as the accumulation of neurotoxins. It could be something else, though. I suppose. Seizures would suck.

Overstimulation, also... like you mentioned, being too tired to think.

But, I have this, yes. Nothing seems real, at times. I'm often questioning how I seem in public, because I just wonder if my world view is the same. Conversations are a surreal experience. But, somehow, I manage "normal." People treat me normal, I guess.

I hate that part of my mind is always trying to get out of the situation, get back home, and be by my lonesome. I fight it. I don't want that, Lyme/co just does it.

I'm doing my best, I don't know. I don't know. Whatever.
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   Posted 1/29/2018 12:47 AM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
"zoning out"........as in lethargic? That can be a hypothyoid symptom too, and I see your Hashi in your signature line.

Personally I think lethargic episodes are your brains way of taking a nap while your body is awake. When this happened to me, my eyes would lock in blank stare and people would notice! My brain was in la la land for 10-15 seconds. I could see fine, but was not aware of what my site was focused on, since I was not focused.

I had short term vision / blindness problems but that was after waking in the AM, not some lethargic episode, was not related.


I get the lethargy frequently but my zoning out does not make me unaware of where I am or what I'm doing-not for even a moment. My thoughts just become very dream-like and nonsensical. My friend that has this is completely 'unaware'. It can last a few seconds or 20 minutes or so. Eyes open and staring, but not registering most of the time during these. But sometimes he is just out and it takes me some doing to bring him out of it. He is not aware that anything odd has happened when he comes out of it. I thought he was having a stroke. This is why he is not supposed to drive. His paperwork from the hospital says he shouldn't even bathe or swim unattended or drive even a riding lawn mower. All this time I thought he was passing out from alcohol, though he was denying drinking.

When I saw that this was related to the vagus nerve and that bacterial infections can do this, I connected the Lyme/vagus nerve dots and the fact that he has never done any kind of treatment for Lyme, or anything else for that matter, there's no telling what kind of damage has taken place over the years. 13 if he got Lyme from me.

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   Posted 1/29/2018 2:19 PM (GMT -6)   
julymorning, I've noticed a lot of spacing out the past few days to week, but this weekend I had one that felt abnormal. I've been paying more attention to see if I am aware of what is going on when I blank out. Sometimes I am. And often I have caught myself actually thinking about something and then spacing out as if to be daydreaming. But Saturday I had one where I just completely blanked. I had no awareness of what was being said by the person presenting in my training session for a good 4 or more seconds. I don't really know how long it was. Nor could I see what was going on. Then when I "snapped out of it" it was like time jumped ahead. Like I had just missed the past few seconds and life went on without me. They're not all like that. Some I am somewhat aware of what is going on around me. But then there are the ones like this. I am seeing that they happen more with inactivity. If I keep my brain busy I have less of them. So at times like driving, sitting in meetings, or watching TV they happen more frequently. I also went to a loud concert Friday, and then noise and stimulation was super hard. There were a few times that it happened that night as well.
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   Posted 1/29/2018 5:19 PM (GMT -6)   
astroman said...
"zoning out"........as in lethargic? That can be a hypothyoid symptom too, and I see your Hashi in your signature line.

Personally I think lethargic episodes are your brains way of taking a nap while your body is awake. When this happened to me, my eyes would lock in blank stare and people would notice! My brain was in la la land for 10-15 seconds. I could see fine, but was not aware of what my site was focused on, since I was not focused.

I had short term vision / blindness problems but that was after waking in the AM, not some lethargic episode, was not related.


You describe it perfectly.
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   Posted 1/29/2018 5:26 PM (GMT -6)   
It crazy how people can be in good health with no symptoms, get lyme, and then all share countless number of symptoms down to the "T".

It still boggles my mind how lyme isn't very well known. Because if it was and the mainstream medical community were able to connect the dots to lyme and co, so many ailments and symptoms can be treated properly.

In a way we are kind of, "lucky" and I use that word very loosely, because SO many other people (maybe as many as 1 in 15 people) have lymie symptoms to varying degrees and have no idea why.

We at least have the piece of mind and can really do something about it.

People have provided great advice on this particular symptom and now MA10 can test things out and most likely get better once he or she finds what works for them.

Just like to see it as glass half full.
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